Trust me, Real Madrid fans were worse, they were chanting "We want Mbappe" in front of Hazard's presentation at Santiago Bernabéu stadium.
United's biggest problem - Our spoiled and overly entitled fan base
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I love the reactions to threads being created by WUMminator. The master WUM of RedCafe.
For those fans who really hate that others have a problem with how the club has been leeched out by our parasite owners, maybe you should create a "Glazers In" thread and movement, organise some counter-protests too. I bet the lovely American overlords of United would be delighted to even finance that sort of activity.
For those fans who really hate that others have a problem with how the club has been leeched out by our parasite owners, maybe you should create a "Glazers In" thread and movement, organise some counter-protests too. I bet the lovely American overlords of United would be delighted to even finance that sort of activity.
There’s an increasing amount of bullshit around it, but at its core it’s still a sport.
I agree that the theme is often one of pessimism and entitlement, and the grass being greener elsewhere. It is fair to comment given recent seasons that we have made some mistakes and that there is work to do, but the fan base is reflecting modern society generally. We are being run as a business and decision-making isn’t always going to be purely football driven. Forums such as these will always attract passionate and in many cases poorly informed opinions. I’ve not played professional football in this or any era, and I’ve never negotiated a professional sports contract on behalf of a rich but underperforming football club in an increasingly volatile market. I like to express an opinion occasionally and anyone willing to tell me or anyone else that they’re definitely wrong is likely doing so from a different viewpoint that is in many cases no more enlightened than mine. So what? I take it all with a big pinch of salt. I’ve watched United for 35+ years and my brother in law has been a technical director at a couple of clubs. It doesn’t mean I know what’s going on a United, but I do think many should cheer up a bit.
The product is the game of Football not the results. As a fan you support the football club not the results.
I totally understand people being upset, disappointed and all these emotions, it's part of being a fan but these emotions are only understandable in the heat of the moment, when we are in June and have had a lot of time to think and collect ourselves, these emotions become childish.
Voice of reason. Thanks.
Also, someone said in the #Glazersout thread that the OP was straw manning the protest, couldn’t agree more. Then to add our inflated wage bill as a sign of some sort of ambition (in the OP) is to mistake malaise and incompetence for ambition.
A knee-jerk top-red thread.
And it’s exactly that element the OP is making out the whole anti-Glazer sentiment is about. You have idiots on all sides, that doesn’t refute the obvious state of our club and how it’s being run.
Seven years later...Its the fans fault 
Guys, don't feed the troll.
This thread is clearly designed to generate loads of traffic, sow discontent, polarisation and confusion amongst fans, specifically at a time when there is a bit of momentum growing against the Glazers. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this isn't club sponsored. Look at the poster's name - it was specifically changed to 'Wumminator' due to the amount of wind-up, trolling, top red bullshit that the guy posts. Shame on anyone that's falling for it.
This thread is clearly designed to generate loads of traffic, sow discontent, polarisation and confusion amongst fans, specifically at a time when there is a bit of momentum growing against the Glazers. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this isn't club sponsored. Look at the poster's name - it was specifically changed to 'Wumminator' due to the amount of wind-up, trolling, top red bullshit that the guy posts. Shame on anyone that's falling for it.
I think it´s Glazers fault. It is just not professional to not put a competent Sporting Director in charge for so many years. Business in only one side of football.
I think the OP should create one, or re-name this one.This must be one the most delusional statements I've read about anything. I certainly don't think Real Madrid's fan base is any less spoiled but that didn't stop them winning multiple CLs in a row.
Seriously, our fans pay money to be entertained and the club's spoiled players and incompetent staff perform well below expectation. That is without going into the crooks who legally drain resources from the club to build their yachts.
People need to seriously think again when they blame hard-working, paying normal people for rich people's incompetence and greed.
EDIT: I just saw the OP is that guy who has nothing better to do than play Trump on Redcafe. Waste a reply but I'll leave it here.
Seriously, our fans pay money to be entertained and the club's spoiled players and incompetent staff perform well below expectation. That is without going into the crooks who legally drain resources from the club to build their yachts.
People need to seriously think again when they blame hard-working, paying normal people for rich people's incompetence and greed.
EDIT: I just saw the OP is that guy who has nothing better to do than play Trump on Redcafe. Waste a reply but I'll leave it here.
This is also a good illustration. Ambation not on behalf of oneselg, but on behalf of others. Then the idea that you can chose a team you think will win you titles, and as you wrote in your previous post, that you have the right to be annoyed that they can’t fulfil the ambition you have set for them to achieve for you.
Meanwhile, the entitled fan’s actual contribution is often to buy a shirt and tickets to the game. All fans do this, the difference between the normal fan and the entitled fan, is that the normal fan, paying 50 quid for an Everton shirt, is normally satisfied if a player, manager or board does their best. The entitled fan thinks that ‘a city shirt costs fifty quid as well! For fifty quid, I should be able to expect only the best. Why should I support Everton with my special fifty if they don’t give me (my) titles?
It’s of course based on a lot of faulty logic, but that’s why it’s called entitlement and is not so popular trait among most people.
For as big a club as we are and for as much money that we've thrown at this without results for the past 5-6 years, and especially considering the recent success of Citeh and f#cking Liverpool, I'm actually surprised that we've managed to not be more vitriolic and angry.
I'm a Manchester United fanatic supporter follower glory hunter!
You are wrong. It is not the 50 quid you pay make you entitled for success what i meant. It is the clubs enormous financial Greatness generated by the broad fan base of 600m people around the world that make the club obliged to maintain success.
Definitely not our biggest problem, or else every large professional football club in the world would have the same issues.
But if every one of those 600 million so called fans would just chip in a pound each imagine all the people, living life in peace. Wooh-ooooooh, oo-ah ooh. I may be a dreamer. But I'm not the only one. Biggest problem is clearly the overarching lack of a transfer strategy since 2013.
but people have every right to point out how a club is run, especially a club in such a privileged position, like United. To simply relinquish that position with a string of poor decisions is what really “bothers” normal people. The attitude of you and OPs are what’s going to help us eclipse Liverpool’s years without a title.
Fans are the biggest problem, Jesus fecking Christ. You have to be a Liverpool fan, you just have to
600m? Seriously? You know where that number comes from?
You don’t have a special ‘right’ because you chose a club with many other supporter. It’s not to your credit that they exist, and spend money. You are not ‘entitled’ more than any fan, me, an Evertonian or a Vålerenga IF fan. You do not contribute more than them. The fact you suggest people should change clubs in order to ‘win’ titles, says more than enough for me.
Why the hilarity - it was wasn't it?
He got that username as he lost the bet on Zlatan scoring X number of goals.
Comparing Madrid or Barcelona fans to ourselves as if we should all be patting ourselves on the back for not being that spoiled.
Two very big differences. They're in a league that generates feck all TV revenue because of its lack of competition at the top end. If they don't win the league or the champions league they've had a terrible season.
Secondly, they're clubs that have always been and probably always will be a more desirable place for the vast majority of foreign players to play. Honestly, I'd find it very hard to be to bothered about having a fecking hankey waved at me if I was on 300 grand a week and living in Spain.
Having said that, it's par for the course with us. We do have a fair collection of fair weather supporters that chose to follow us for the glamour and not necessarily the idea of defiantly singing Ole's name as we get our arses handed to us at Goodison Park.
Unfortunately the generation of twitter based supporters is seen as important by the people that broker our noodle partnerships and that's probably here to stay. They may be spoilt, but they're probably one of the reasons we still make more money than we did when Fergie left.
Two very big differences. They're in a league that generates feck all TV revenue because of its lack of competition at the top end. If they don't win the league or the champions league they've had a terrible season.
Secondly, they're clubs that have always been and probably always will be a more desirable place for the vast majority of foreign players to play. Honestly, I'd find it very hard to be to bothered about having a fecking hankey waved at me if I was on 300 grand a week and living in Spain.
Having said that, it's par for the course with us. We do have a fair collection of fair weather supporters that chose to follow us for the glamour and not necessarily the idea of defiantly singing Ole's name as we get our arses handed to us at Goodison Park.
Unfortunately the generation of twitter based supporters is seen as important by the people that broker our noodle partnerships and that's probably here to stay. They may be spoilt, but they're probably one of the reasons we still make more money than we did when Fergie left.
yes, but why was that username specifically chosen?
I'd trade our fanbase for Madrid's in a heartbeat. Spoilt and entitled but they keep their management on their toes and demand the best of the best. By contrast ours seem a bit subservient to authority and seem to treat mediocrity as a badge of honour
United's biggest problem - people like OP.
No it doesn't. Either you're just parroting all the nonsense you see on social media or you're not very good at comprehension. What he's saying in the quote is pretty clear: United are still making money even though the team isn't very good. This is not the same as saying commercial interests are more important that on field performance.
And no you won't find a quote of him saying that because it's utterly stupid and the CEO of a football club obviously knows that is not the case. But I'm interested to see you try and ultimately fail.
Just to give context to your point here is the question he was answering to:
Edit: I put the actual transcript.
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The bolded is complete rubbish. Protesting b/c your team isn't winning doesn't make you a winner. It makes you a spoiled brat just as the OP correctly pointed out and you've proven countless times in this thread.
I guess I'm allowed to tell you that you should go support City if all you're interested in is titles.
Great post. You have given a clear illustration of what’s an “entitled fan” and sadly we seem to have loads of them these days spewing their negativity and moaning all over the place.
Thanks for that.
Point still stands. There's no mention of prioritizing marketing over playing performance.
I agree with you, I'm just providing why you are correct.
I know. I just wanted to reiterate.
Give it a rest. You can carry out your scapegoating without bringing nationality into this. Don't be thick.
They are American aren't they?!
To think that our supporters, good or bad are our biggest problem is bizarre.
We have numerous problems which require resolution but I doubt that the supporters are even in the top 10.
Come on. Let's be realistic.
We have numerous problems which require resolution but I doubt that the supporters are even in the top 10.
Come on. Let's be realistic.
Do you think it’s possible to have a problem with how the Glazers are running the institution that is Manchester United FC without necessarily moaning over anything and everything the club does?
Suppose we went out and spent 1 billion this summer and bought a brand new 11 of galacticos showing our “ambition” in the market. I guess that might silence some of the moaning but would that suddenly make you love the Glazers? Loathing the Glazers and being hopeful about the future on the pitch and optimistic with the moves being made this summer aren’t mutually exclusive.
It doesn't matter what their nationality is and it feeds into the stereotype that American business owners are money-hungry leeches