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Heads up, I got a warning for overuse of that particular smiley, i'm not that sad i'd report you but ....
Heads up, I got a warning for overuse of that particular smiley, i'm not that sad i'd report you but ....
Exactly and that's why every time I'm in Old Trafford I hear the stretford end signing "Oh Robsons fecking magic, he wears a magic hat, and when he saw Old Trafford, he said I fancy that".. hang on, no sorry I never hear a song for Robbo, ever. I wonder why?Robson has carried the team. Keane may shout a lot more but as Captain Robson carried the team a lot more than Keane. A good captain don't only shout. If Robson played badly or was injured United played badly. Keane has had many bad games yet United played well. It doesn't mean Keane was a bad captain. I would like to ask how many of you have seen Robson live and at his peak?
Bryan Robson never wore a hat!?Exactly and that's why every time I'm in Old Trafford I hear the stretford end signing "Oh Robsons fecking magic, he wears a magic hat, and when he saw Old Trafford, he said I fancy that".. hang on, no sorry I never hear a song for Robbo, ever. I wonder why?
Robbo would have been on the bench behind Keane and Scholes.Bryan Robson never wore a hat!?
But seriously when Bryan Robson ruled the roost we tended to go through the battle-anthem songbook, when we became successful the glory-hunters tended to go for the catchy sing-a-longs, I blame Pete Boyle
Doesn't matter where he's sat that's still some benchRobbo would have been on the bench behind Keane and Scholes.
Nah, unless the Russians are allowed to vote Captain Marvel will piss it.A poll to settle this?
I see only two most worthy inclusions - Robbo or Keano?
You know what I meant.Doesn't matter where he's sat that's still some bench
I am not British and I am not a kid. I have seen Sir Bobby and Bestie too when I was a kid. Martin Buchan was a good captain too.You know what I meant.
The Keane v Robbo debate will go on forever on here. It's no surprise for a lot of kids before Keane came along Robson was probably their favourite United player, he was mine for a while but Keane just had the edge. He pushed us that little bit further than Robbo could.
I understand the nostalgia of an English captain for a lot of Brits on here but he wasnt a better captain than Keane and the history books will show that long after the people who want to debate the fact are long gone.
Oh well if we won more when Keane was Captain he was obviously the better Captain, life in the simple laneYou know what I meant.
The Keane v Robbo debate will go on forever on here. It's no surprise for a lot of kids before Keane came along Robson was probably their favourite United player, he was mine for a while but Keane just had the edge. He pushed us that little bit further than Robbo could.
I understand the nostalgia of an English captain for a lot of Brits on here but he wasnt a better captain than Keane and the history books will show that long after the people who want to debate the fact are long gone.
Unfortunately that's the way it goes. People will remember Charlton for his 66 world cup performances because he was a winner. His 68 performances because he was a winner. Balon D'or wins etc. Etc. You may not agree with it but it's how the very best are separated from the rest.Oh well if we won more when Keane was Captain he was obviously the better Captain, life in the simple lane
Yeah but how many people know who the Captain was in 66 and 68 without Googling?Unfortunately that's the way it goes. People will remember Charlton for his 66 world cup performances because he was a winner. His 68 performances because he was a winner. Balon D'or wins etc. Etc. You may not agree with it but it's how the very best are separated from the rest.
Who became the captain after Keane left ? Off the top of my head I think it was Giggs because he was always playing with the armband sometimes, but I also remember Gary Neville with it
I actually forgot that Keane left after the Treble season in 99, for some strange reason i thought he stayed until 2005 and captained the club to another 4-5 trophies.To all the glory hunters and Irish bias. Here is our trophy room
YR Trophy. Captain
84 FA Robson
89 FA Robson
90 EC. Robson
91 EFL. Robson
92 EPL Robson
93 EPL FA Robson
94 Bruce
95 EPL FA Bruce
96 EPL. Cantona
97
98 EPL FA CL Keane
99 EPL Keane
When Bruce was the step-in Captain during 92, 93, hence Bruce always gave me the perception as the 1st Captain that started our run since 1992. But that is my perception anyway, as Robson was the official Captain.
Same. Left when you've achieved the greatest is a nice feeling.I actually forgot that Keane left after the Treble season in 99, for some strange reason i thought he stayed until 2005 and captained the club to another 4-5 trophies.
I’ll support this to a point of principle.See you're conveniently ignoring granted in a better team/squad, but it's true, there was no obvious drop-off in the team performance when Keane was missing.
General Consensus?
Bobby Charlton for United, Bobby Moore for England. Everyone knows that mate.Yeah but how many people know who the Captain was in 66 and 68 without Googling?
I don't think anyone would challenge that level of use of a smiley for such a ridiculous post.Heads up, I got a warning for overuse of that particular smiley, i'm not that sad i'd report you but ....
Any reason you stopped in 99?To all the glory hunters and Irish bias. Here is our trophy room
YR Trophy. Captain
84 FA Robson
89 FA Robson
90 EC. Robson
91 EFL. Robson
92 EPL Robson
93 EPL FA Robson
94 Bruce
95 EPL FA Bruce
96 EPL. Cantona
97
98 EPL FA CL Keane
99 EPL Keane
When Bruce was the step-in Captain during 92, 93, hence Bruce always gave me the perception as the 1st Captain that started our run since 1992. But that is my perception anyway, as Robson was the official Captain.
Robsons injuries are a bit exaggerated - he had one season where he was injured a lot in his younger days at United - 85/86Robson was our version of Stevie G. Just too much injury.
The players in general knew the on-field bollockings were for their and the teams benefit and were fine with it, but at times Roy went too far, poor Jesper Blomqvist still comes out in a cold-sweat when somebody mentions Roy Keane's name 21 years after that night in Turin when Roy destroyed him for a bad pass that resulted in him lunging in on Zidane? and picking up the booking that meant he missed the Final, but the pass was fine it was Roy's bad control that fecked him up - and if he had anything about him as a Captain and a Man he would have apologised to Blomqvist after the match once he'd watched it back as i'm sure he did, but he didn't, and that was the beginning of the end for Blomqvist at United.I’ll support this to a point of principle.
Robson was performing Keane vs Juve feats every few weeks. He operated in a far poorer side.
Keane was his equal, but he was fortunate to play in sides full of leaders, with a squad that was packed with talent.
In that sense, Robson missing was a far bigger hole than Keane missing.
With that said, I think Keane was the better Captain. The players seemed to know they had to meet his level of application. Every single minute of every game. With Robson it felt as though the players relied on him to bail them out and carry the side.
Well yeah apart from meBobby Charlton for United, Bobby Moore for England. Everyone knows that mate.
Exactly and whoever said that seems to be forgetting the 97/98 season when we won nothing, jeane was missing from september onwards.Keane for me, you just felt that bit more confident when he was in the lineup, the person who said he wasn't missed when he didn't play is chatting bollox and probably wasn't watching United at the time.
Nah think 11 was sufficient, one for each of your fingers.I don't think anyone would challenge that level of use of a smiley for such a ridiculous post.
If anything, I think I under did it.
Wow it's crazy that Giggs or Scholes were never given it
Scholes was never a captain and wouldn't have wanted it. Giggs always had more obvious candidates ahead of him but often deputised when the main man wasn't playing.Wow it's crazy that Giggs or Scholes were never given it
It's weird that Giggs went on to become a sucessfull manager and Neville failed so big. Always thought of Gary as more of a leader in a dressing room.Scholes was never a captain and wouldn't have wanted it. Giggs always had more obvious candidates ahead of him but often deputised when the main man wasn't playing.
In fairness to Neville he has managed one club and it was a very strange scenario to take on as a rookie manager and a big club of which he had no affiliations with, in arguably the best league in the world of which he never played in and in a country where he didn’t even speak the language.It's weird that Giggs went on to become a sucessfull manager and Neville failed so big. Always thought of Gary as more of a leader in a dressing room.