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Unpopular Opinion - The Overrated N'Golo Kante
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He certainly stood out as such in multiple matches at the highest level.
If he gets a hype train going and wins the Euro's, then he should secure the Balon d'Or.
Would love that, he’s just so good and seems such a good egg
A great defensive midfielder. And even better human being. Every team needs a Kante.
Wish we could've signed him in 2016 along with Pogba and instead of Mkhitaryan. Would be perfect for our midfield's balance. I believe that would've made things far easier for Pogba in midfield too.
Wish we could've signed him in 2016 along with Pogba and instead of Mkhitaryan. Would be perfect for our midfield's balance. I believe that would've made things far easier for Pogba in midfield too.
He also was MOTM for both semi finals games. How often did that happen??
Just remembered this. He's had life time performances on the biggest stage. Hard to look past that in my opinion
This is so true
Why lots of people are just adamant about admitting they are wrong is ridiculous. One of the best CM of the last 20 years for sure, if we have him in the squad we'll definitely have more PL and CL by now
The same suspects who tried to convince us that Fred is at least as good as Kanté a couple of weeks ago?
Out of the Frenchies, only Henry?
Vieira, Pires and Petit never won the CL
Barthez never won the EL
Desailly never won the PL, and EL
Did Henry play a prominent role in '98?
Henry never won the EL
He did in the group stages I think
Ah you are right, he played in a final but lost.
Pedro?
Hes made the Makelele position his own, should be called the Kante position now
Won every title domestically
Fa Cup
2 Leagues
Europa League
Champions League
Not to mention...The World Cup (even though thats not a domestic title)
Won every title domestically
Fa Cup
2 Leagues
Europa League
Champions League
Not to mention...The World Cup (even though thats not a domestic title)
Pedro won it all in club football scoring in every final ?
Is he already better than Makelele?
I think so.
He's one of those players that it's impossible to dislike. It's a damn shame he chose Chelsea over us. He would instantly have become my favorite player.
I don't get why that happens, dude is most likeable player ever. I guess that it must be envy that he doesn't play for United.
Fantastic player.
Easily MOTM. The man is an absolute powerhouse. Yeah, he breaks up play, but he's also the one that often institutes attacks. He's deceptively quick and can move the ball upfield to create attacking opportunities. £32m!! Absolute bargain.
Best midfielder in the world at the moment
They don't play the same position. Kante has in fact been back to his best because Tuchel has moved him away from the base of midfield:
https://theathletic.com/2614828/202...storing-him-role-starred-under-ranieri-conte/
TL;DR - Kante has been restricted since Tuchel came in to the right side but has been given far more license to move vertically, whereas under Lampard he sat more at the base of midfield and had to cover side-to-side. Kante has always been at his best when he can press high and harry the opposition - Tuchel has correctly identified this, as did Ranieri for Leicester, Conte for Chelsea in 16/17, and Deschamps for France when he moved Matuidi to left wing in order to play Kante in a 2 man midfield.
I think so, and I never thought I'd be saying that about anyone.
Either way hes probably the only player over the last few seasons id want in my team irrespective of fees wages etc
Very jealous of Chelsea having him
Can confirm - he's very possibly the most likeable footballer of all time? Genuinely not trying to be OTT but struggling to think of another player with an approval rating that even approaches his, especially among rival supporters.
Sarri and Lampard tricked us.
Great player. An asset to any team.
Great player. An asset to any team.
Neither are the Europa League or the Champions League
He comes across as such a likeable guy, very humble. The kind of player youd love if he played for your club.
It's really insane for me how Kante costed Chelsea only 30m back in 2016.
One of the best signings in football in last 10 years easily.
One of the best signings in football in last 10 years easily.
He is much different to Makelele tbh. Kante has genuine ability on ball carrying and linking up ability. Makelele was a specialist in recovering the ball and passing it simply. Kante is a more complete player
No way, best CDM without a doubt but Messi, Lewandowski, Kane and several others are above him.
Couldn't believe it at the time, he was the player of the year with leicester and Chelsea managed to buy him for 30 and sell us Matic for 40M unbelievable stuff. We are truly managed by incompetents.
He seems to become WC when the system involves inviting other teams on and not having possession all the time. He does better with Tuchel and Conte then he did with Lamps and Sarri.
I wonder how many actually read the thread carefully. In my OP I have clearly stated that Kante is pretty useful in a specific setting (2-man midfield) against specific opponents (teams with more possession). The question here is, whether a player with such limitations could be rated as world class, some even call him the best player in the world.
Unfortunately, people only watch big games and they know nothing about how he struggles against smaller opponents or in a different system. I find it funny people occassionally bump this thread when Kante shines in a big game, it just reminds me how terrible he is in most of the games for the rest of the season.
Tuchel broguht him back to live, since Conte left Chelsea he was playing shit. The new tactics really make him shine. World-class player without a doubt under the correct scheme.
Such a different player to watch than Makas was, for me (maybe my bad memory).
I don't remember Maka charging forward and going for far post headers like Kante did last night. Or joining in with attacking breaks regularly.
Maka was an incredibly reliable barrier in our defensive midfield but he never, ever did things like this...
I don't know about Balon d'Or because I don't watch much football outside the Prem but would be awesome to see a "defensive" player get one for once.
I don't remember Maka charging forward and going for far post headers like Kante did last night. Or joining in with attacking breaks regularly.
Maka was an incredibly reliable barrier in our defensive midfield but he never, ever did things like this...
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I don't know about Balon d'Or because I don't watch much football outside the Prem but would be awesome to see a "defensive" player get one for once.
Comfortably for me. Different type of midfielder but even more influential.
Big games are what makes people's opinion change.And you know what, i believe Football it's about winning big games, especially when playing for a big team like Chelsea, period.
For instance, Kane playing for England can score all he wants against tier 3 NTs like Scotland,Slovakia,Slovenia, Ireland,Tunez,Panama,etc but then if he does nothing in big games against Croatia,Belgium,France,Netherlands,Italy,Germany,etc no one will care about his records against San Marino, Lithuania, Scotland,Panama,etc...(BTW he even choked against Iceland in the Euro 2016 knockout).
I'd take a 'big game player' over a consistent player who delivers everywhere except in big games.You need the former to actually win trophies.
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