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He is the media apparently. He's a producer or something and was in the newsroom watching at the time. Read somewhere else that it was their last day at that station as well.
Yes, He works for the station too apparently..But he shouldnt be out there in that state of mind..especially actually seeing the murder live...It was the other guy who was leaving ..His fiance was moving away, and he wanted to join her...
 

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Yes, He works for the station too apparently..But he shouldnt be out there in that state of mind..especially actually seeing the murder live...It was the other guy who was leaving ..His fiance was moving away, and he wanted to join her...
Ah ok. Fecking awful stuff all round really. You're dead right that somebody should have taken the guy home by the way. I doubt anyone connected was really thinking to straight though.
 

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I've intentionally tried to avoid seeing any images of this and these cnut editors from some of the newspapers in this country stick THAT image on the front page? They don't give a feck about the victims, they just want whatever shocking image they can use to sell their product. Seriously fecked off about it, they should have some fecking respect for once in their lives.
Totally agree.

I'm not in the UK anymore, so hadn't seen the front pages, but saw them here:

http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/front-pages.cfm

And am not trying to be a hypocrite by sharing a link that shows the images in question - my point was only to echo the above post and show how the different newspapers are covering it.
 

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Sadly these sort of things happen everywhere in the U.S. Schools, colleges, work place, malls (shopping centers), movie theaters, just about anywhere you can think of. There is generally an outrage after these shootings, but it's over with very quickly. Growing up in England, i never saw a gun until i moved to the U.S. It's just so crazy with all these shootings, especially if you have kids going to school.
That's the sad truth. A someone posted earlier in this thread - if an event like the Sandy Hook shooting doesn't effect change, then not if anything ever will.

I remember seeing an interview President Obama gave where he said his biggest frustration with his time in office was his inability to change/strengthen the gun laws. It was shocking seeing the President of the most powerful country on Earth looking defeated by the knowledge that he is powerless to change it. How did the NRA get so much influence?
 

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Sun shows the actual muzzle flash (photoshopped in for dramatic effect) as well as saying on the frontpage "go to our website to watch the chilling video", then it has five pictures from the video in the newspaper.

The video isn't behind a paywall apparently. Its the worst by miles.
The video of the shooting which was live on tv was on the CNN website, while the dailymail has still shots of the shooting with a particular attention on showing her face just as she is shot...Its not just the lower level rags...its all of them
 

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The video of the shooting which was live on tv was on the CNN website, while the dailymail has still shots of the shooting with a particular attention on showing her face just as she is shot...Its not just the lower level rags...its all of them
I personally find the daily racist oops mail to be the lowest level of all the rags.
 

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The paper that photoshopped some fake muzzle flash is the worst by far.

"Hey boss, what do you think of this image for the front page? It's just before the reporter gets shot."
"Hmmm, it's not quite sexy enough. Add some muzzle flash for dramatic effect."
 

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That's the sad truth. A someone posted earlier in this thread - if an event like the Sandy Hook shooting doesn't effect change, then not if anything ever will.

I remember seeing an interview President Obama gave where he said his biggest frustration with his time in office was his inability to change/strengthen the gun laws. It was shocking seeing the President of the most powerful country on Earth looking defeated by the knowledge that he is powerless to change it. How did the NRA get so much influence?
I saw the same interview and thought the same thing! 7 years as President and only 1 thing he appears totally unable to do anything about. But like you say how did they get so much influence? Is it an urban myth?

Surely the whole point of a Government/ President/ Prime Minister etc... is that they are at the top of the country - they run it. Everyone else is below them in terms of the Laws of the land and the economy. The simple fact is the Government DO have the power to change things, but they are scared of the reaction because out of 300 million people in America, probably about 3 of them have sane views on guns. Some of the stuff you read on Twitter (replies to Piers Morgan who is actually spot on about the subject) are crazy.
 

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The paper that photoshopped some fake muzzle flash is the worst by far.

"Hey boss, what do you think of this image for the front page? It's just before the reporter gets shot."
"Hmmm, it's not quite sexy enough. Add some muzzle flash for dramatic effect."
And I bet that's pretty much exactly how it went.

The worst thing about that is that it doesn't make it more dramatic, or anything like that. It makes it look more like a game. The video the killer shot already looks like it could have come from COD. I personally do not see a correlation between video games and real-life violence, but it's not hard to see other people using things likes this to push that argument.
 

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I've intentionally tried to avoid seeing any images of this and these cnut editors from some of the newspapers in this country stick THAT image on the front page? They don't give a feck about the victims, they just want whatever shocking image they can use to sell their product. Seriously fecked off about it, they should have some fecking respect for once in their lives.
Thankfully I've managed to avoid it so far. I genuinely don't know how they get away with showing such distressing images and in places where they'll be seen by all ages. Worse of all they probably weighed it up and said they'll take any potential fine.

This isn't fecking reality entertainment.
 

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Ah ok. Fecking awful stuff all round really. You're dead right that somebody should have taken the guy home by the way. I doubt anyone connected was really thinking to straight though.
its a terrible thing to go through..he will have that image on his mind for the rest of his life too..Its just a sad thing that happened there yesterday..They were so young too..at the peak of their lives
 

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I don't want to watch the video, but I saw a still of it. The gunman was pointing the gun right at the reporter while she was interviewing. Did he miss a few times? Because she obviously screamed after a few shots had already been fired.
 

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I don't want to watch the video, but I saw a still of it. The gunman was pointing the gun right at the reporter while she was interviewing. Did he miss a few times? Because she obviously screamed after a few shots had already been fired.
From the picture I saw his grip was terrible so yeah, he probably missed a few. Think he shot the camera man first as well.
 

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That's the sad truth. A someone posted earlier in this thread - if an event like the Sandy Hook shooting doesn't effect change, then not if anything ever will.

I remember seeing an interview President Obama gave where he said his biggest frustration with his time in office was his inability to change/strengthen the gun laws. It was shocking seeing the President of the most powerful country on Earth looking defeated by the knowledge that he is powerless to change it. How did the NRA get so much influence?
In a word, money.
 

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That's the sad truth. A someone posted earlier in this thread - if an event like the Sandy Hook shooting doesn't effect change, then not if anything ever will.

I remember seeing an interview President Obama gave where he said his biggest frustration with his time in office was his inability to change/strengthen the gun laws. It was shocking seeing the President of the most powerful country on Earth looking defeated by the knowledge that he is powerless to change it. How did the NRA get so much influence?
I saw the same interview and thought the same thing! 7 years as President and only 1 thing he appears totally unable to do anything about. But like you say how did they get so much influence? Is it an urban myth?

Surely the whole point of a Government/ President/ Prime Minister etc... is that they are at the top of the country - they run it. Everyone else is below them in terms of the Laws of the land and the economy. The simple fact is the Government DO have the power to change things, but they are scared of the reaction because out of 300 million people in America, probably about 3 of them have sane views on guns. Some of the stuff you read on Twitter (replies to Piers Morgan who is actually spot on about the subject) are crazy.
Obama has been a sitting duck as president since is 2nd year in office. Bush left the whole Country in a mess during his years as president, with 2 wars going on, high unemployment and the country falling into a deep, deep recession. Obama took office and could not turn the tide quickly enough, so the democrats lost the majority in the house of representative, meaning that he could not pass the laws without needing help from republicans.

He has passed a few laws that will help in the long term, like the health care coverage, but there are too many things that still need sorting out.

As far as gun laws are concerned, the NRA is a very, very powerful organization. They have most of the wealthy elite backing them, so getting any laws passed is going to be a tough sell. Having stricter background checks will not stop people getting hold of guns, only way to stop gun violence is to make owning them illegal, which is something that's not to happen
 

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Very true..The American lobby system is one the effects..basically paying to get decisions that you want..
Of course. It should come as no surprise that money talks. For elected officials it's also an indicator of support. People and organizations who contribute money to causes are more likely to vote than those who do not. It may not always be pleasant to think of it in those terms but that's the reality.
 

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Of course. It should come as no surprise that money talks. For elected officials it's also an indicator of support. People and organizations who contribute money to causes are more likely to vote than those who do not. It may not always be pleasant to think of it in those terms but that's the reality.
And its a system that cannot change, because the people in favour are the ones that can change it...The NRA is a significant lobby group , thats why nothing will change.
 

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And its a system that cannot change, because the people in favour are the ones that can change it...The NRA is a significant lobby group , thats why nothing will change.
Yes, the amount of lobby money flowing through DC is ridiculous. It takes all kinds, too. In truth, the NRAs portion is likely on the low end.
 

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Yes, the amount of lobby money flowing through DC is ridiculous. It takes all kinds, too. In truth, the NRAs portion is likely on the low end.
Thats how laws are so difficult to change there laws down there..because no matter how popular laws are, some billionaire is opposing them on the other end..as for Virginia, any new developments?
 

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Thats how laws are so difficult to change there laws down there..because no matter how popular laws are, some billionaire is opposing them on the other end..as for Virginia, any new developments?
Only thing I saw today was one of the victim's fathers calling for gun control. Not unexpected in the wake of these events.

They really should consider that some proposed controls aren't actually going to infringe on the people's right to keep and bear arms. For one, I'd consider any constitutional reference to the people to derive from "We the people" i.e. law abiding citizens who follow the constitution of the United States.

I don't think background checks really infringe on their 2nd amendment rights in that sense. Unfettered access to firearms is clearly a public danger these days. Following up on certain criminal acts like uttering threats etc could prevent these kinds of situations.
 

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I saw the same interview and thought the same thing! 7 years as President and only 1 thing he appears totally unable to do anything about. But like you say how did they get so much influence? Is it an urban myth?

Surely the whole point of a Government/ President/ Prime Minister etc... is that they are at the top of the country - they run it. Everyone else is below them in terms of the Laws of the land and the economy. The simple fact is the Government DO have the power to change things, but they are scared of the reaction because out of 300 million people in America, probably about 3 of them have sane views on guns. Some of the stuff you read on Twitter (replies to Piers Morgan who is actually spot on about the subject) are crazy.
In the U.S. the President is not supposed to have unlimited powers to make any laws he see fits. The House and the Senate have to vote on and pass a bill which the President can sign into law. Then you have the judicial branch which can strike down or uphold laws if cases are brought questioning the constitionality. Since the members of the House and Senate are representatives of the various states and districts in the US they may have a different viewpoint then the President might. All boils down to checks and balances, seperation of powers and all that.
 
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Only thing I saw today was one of the victim's fathers calling for gun control. Not unexpected in the wake of these events.

They really should consider that some proposed controls aren't actually going to infringe on the people's right to keep and bear arms. For one, I'd consider any constitutional reference to the people to derive from "We the people" i.e. law abiding citizens who follow the constitution of the United States.

I don't think background checks really infringe on their 2nd amendment rights in that sense. Unfettered access to firearms is clearly a public danger these days. Following up on certain criminal acts like uttering threats etc could prevent these kinds of situations.
The NRA dont even want that though..thats what I dont get..perhaps they fear that if they allow some rules , it will open up pandora's box for them..However I think the only focus should not be on the gun issue..America has to look why its young man feel compelled to go on this hate filled rampages..the scary thing is that even Canada had it recently...its terrible
 

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The NRA dont even want that though..thats what I dont get..perhaps they fear that if they allow some rules , it will open up pandora's box for them..However I think the only focus should not be on the gun issue..America has to look why its young man feel compelled to go on this hate filled rampages..the scary thing is that even Canada had it recently...its terrible
Interestingly, our recent mass shooters have by and large chosen only to attack the RCMP.

The two where people killed their families were extremely rare incidents for us. I think one involved an illegally possessed firearm.
 
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Interestingly, our recent mass shooters have by and large chosen only to attack the RCMP.

The two where people killed their families were extremely rare incidents for us. I think one involved an illegally possessed firearm.
So there isnt a risk of a spillover from the US? its a huge problem that the US has..I hear Trump saying that the issue isnt guns..its mental health..partly I agree, that isnt a thing that seems to be looked at..together with gun control(keeping those guns from such people), perhaps that could curb it.
 

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And its a system that cannot change, because the people in favour are the ones that can change it...The NRA is a significant lobby group , thats why nothing will change.
Responsible ownership & use of guns is a popular pursuit here. It's part of our nation's history and culture, and an important part of freedom.
 

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Am I right in thinking that the boyfriend of the reporter has been sharing their relationship scrapbook? Bit much no?