Don't think this will ever change unless we can modify the human mind and the way it thinks. Hitler is still the most notorious villain in human history, along with people like Charles Manson. And there will always be sickos who seek to aspire to that kind of notoriety.
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We do, we do.
It's strange alright. Though I understand their concern about all that info making into a list of who owns guns for when the time comes to confiscate them it's a bit ridiculous considering their constitution..tinfoil hat stuff.
The media drives this "celebrity killer" status. The media can't go all full blown TMZ on the killer's background, and then do a 180 and wonder, "why oh why, what went wrong in this man's mind"
he just died at hospital
Was going to post this, people should be flooding news sources twitter with this video
They actually don't give a feck... they chase ratings.
What are you even on about?
Yes, thats the hard part..but how do we make them less of celebrities? Its very difficult, but I feel that some American killers have become almost too glamorized...
Quick sale at the gun shows so everything has to do about $$$
Passing laws in the US is a hard enough task..because I dont really think this issues(The resistance to changing gun laws) have much to do with guns at all.
Placing far more focus on the victims would be the obvious answer but, again, it isn't really that easy to do.
Most of the issues is about commercial and the gun/ammo manufacturers love democrat presidents with gun control on their agenda.
Exactly...You make him almost become an instant superstar..They loved that..and the harsh truth is that it brings ratings..and thats why News outlets love this rolling coverage.
But suicides I would argue is more a situation of a person wanting to die..this are cases of people wanting to die, but to get the most press out of doing it..
The boyfriend of the female victim - dude looks to be in complete shock and is out showing an album full of their photos to the media (he tweeted this after the shooting - https://mobile.twitter.com/chrishurstwdbj/status/636531364356063232. Someone needs to help him out and get away him away from the media for the moment.
Yes,Apparently Charles Manson gets millions of letters a day..but if perhaps we try to make it that we wont turn you into a megastar by reporting on what you did..just perhaps..Its hard I know..I am bringing this up as I think its an issue that is hardly ever tackled when this happens.. people kill, we know that..but why the sudden need to become well known through it?
To clarify, they don't report it out of concern it will encourage more people to take that route. Most Torontonians will tell you that it's not very effective. I would expect similar results out of not reporting these kinds of shootings.
The grizzly details about the killers and their deranged upbringing seems to hook in viewers..and tv networks want viewers, no matter what..
Another thing is the deep divide in American ideology I think..I think its one last stand between the Conservative vs Liberal divide..the problem is that neither side really seeks to engage..everyone seems to want a slam dunk victory.
I get that..but what I am saying is that this will totally deter all murders..rather deter this particular type of murder celebrities..the attention seeking type..its almost a game now, to see who can upstage the other..
Someone needs to step in and pull him away from this..I know that it will be hard for him and he wants to tell her story, but the media arent really interested in that...but rather in getting any story to keep this moving..
The boyfriend of the female victim - dude looks to be in complete shock and is out showing an album full of their photos to the media (he tweeted this after the shooting - https://mobile.twitter.com/chrishurstwdbj/status/636531364356063232. Someone needs to help him out and get away him away from the media for the moment.
Interesting perspective. I think there is value in reporting murders but the in -depth coverage of the perpetrator is what drives the behavior, right? They want the attention, even if it means dying to get it. Perhaps focusing on the victims would be an effective way of covering the story without turning the perpetrator into a murderporn star.
You see how in depth in getting the killers story..How noone wanted to play with him when he was 6, how he was bullied in 9th grade..his life story and all that...Thats why most of the time you find that a lot of them leave blogs when they do this..because they know that we will read...To tell you the truth, I can hardly remember any of the names of any of the victims in Virginia tech, Columbine or Sandy Hook...I think in a way we have to tell their story too, and not just hit us with the numbers"32 killed by...(Then focus entirely on that)...
And just saw that video of the shooting, in of all places CNN.
Half the country care more about killing things than about people being killed.
In English, please.
He is the media apparently. He's a producer or something and was in the newsroom watching at the time. Read somewhere else that it was their last day at that station as well.
You'd hope they'd start listening to this. I used to always think the same thing about hostage takers (pirates or terrorists), that by giving them coverage we are strengthening their hands. In the last few years there has been less and less in the media about hostage situations in the Middle East or Indian Ocean. Not sure if there really are less incidents or they've just stopped reporting them. If it's the latter then maybe there's hope they can start applying similar standards to these situations.
Some absolutely disgusting front pages from the British papers.
Bless him. He looks totally lost. I've no idea how he must be feeling.
The boyfriend of the female victim - dude looks to be in complete shock and is out showing an album full of their photos to the media (he tweeted this after the shooting - https://mobile.twitter.com/chrishurstwdbj/status/636531364356063232. Someone needs to help him out and get away him away from the media for the moment.
What more do you expect from shite like the Sun and the Daily Mail? Disgraceful stuff.
@Sir Matt - I've just taken a look and the worse of the bunch appear to be : the Daily Mail, The Times and the Telegraph.
I haven't seen either the Sun's or the Mirror's, although i wouldn't be surprised if they too were deserving of being added to the above list.
There is simply no need to have THAT image on the front page, and with the largest possible picture too for pity sake.
I haven't seen either the Sun's or the Mirror's, although i wouldn't be surprised if they too were deserving of being added to the above list.
There is simply no need to have THAT image on the front page, and with the largest possible picture too for pity sake.
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True, using pictures a second before they got shot, you can see the fear in her eyes
I've intentionally tried to avoid seeing any images of this and these cnut editors from some of the newspapers in this country stick THAT image on the front page? They don't give a feck about the victims, they just want whatever shocking image they can use to sell their product. Seriously fecked off about it, they should have some fecking respect for once in their lives.
Sun shows the actual muzzle flash (photoshopped in for dramatic effect) as well as saying on the frontpage "go to our website to watch the chilling video", then it has five pictures from the video in the newspaper.
The video isn't behind a paywall apparently. Its the worst by miles.
The NY Post and NY Daily News have similar coverage on their sites and no doubt their front pages tomorrow, but most of the major channels' sites just have pictures of the pair and perpetrator. I haven't watched their TV coverage because TV news is the worst.
Sadly typical of that rag.
I mean, what are these papers going to claim, that the picture is in the public interest? They should be showing these poor people as they would like to have been remembered, not turning their final moments into a poster fit for a snuff movie..
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Manifesto, grandiosity, public executions, it sounds like another schizophrenic type break with reality to me.
They should have known something was off when he had a chance to change his name to anything he wanted and he chose Bryce.
Sadly these sort of things happen everywhere in the U.S. Schools, colleges, work place, malls (shopping centers), movie theaters, just about anywhere you can think of. There is generally an outrage after these shootings, but it's over with very quickly. Growing up in England, i never saw a gun until i moved to the U.S. It's just so crazy with all these shootings, especially if you have kids going to school.