Wayne Rooney hits back at critics over wedding photos.

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'Colin hits back at Rooney critics'
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The MOTD comments of 'Go on Wayne, stand up for yourself' were equally baffling. It was if he was someone persecuted individual and not someone who was a unprofessional, underperforming and overpaid.
Nice to see an oppo fan actually bothered by the Rooney situation and not just laughing from afar (not saying you can't laugh too, I wouldn't blame you!).

Yeah, I actually think it's indicative of a wider problem within English football that all fans should be somewhat miffed about - the football media (a huge industry in it's own right) being run by a mixture of paid off hacks who are now closer to being PR people than objective journalists, and 'old boys' who are close friends of the subjects they are paid handsomely to 'weigh-in' on.

It's basically a racket, and it creates problems for the English game I think. The highest paid/profile English players, those who should be receiving the most in depth level of critique (be it positive or negative) are the ones who have their games either airbrushed over, or exalted beyond all reality.

As fans have gotten more savvy and information-hungry the schism between what the pundits/hacks are peddling and the reality that the fans are seeing is getting wider and wider to the point where, as you pointed out, it begins to actually baffle as to how anyone could come out with lots of the garbage that they do and expect to be taken seriously.

For example, if someone joined redcafe and starting spouting what Wrighty, G.Nev or indeed any of the pundit circle do about Rooney, they'd be viewed as WUMs and would never get promoted. Because the angle they're taking just isn't even believable anymore - even from a moderate position.

Fans want insight and they want passionate opinion, and instead they have their intelligence insulted - and so when a 'scandal' leaks out of that bubble world that we've all got our noses pressed up against, people gobble it up...

If the media/pundit industry wasn't basically corrupt, players wouldn't be able to end up getting anywhere near as complacent as Rooney has gotten, and in turn, fans wouldn't be getting so fed up of being lied to by paid off cronies/friends of players that they end up mounting increased pressure on players via social media.
 

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If I remember correctly Ronaldo doesn't drink at all. At least they said so in his "documentary".
Hold up that can't be right, the Sun says he does drink so it must be true. Not only does he drink he was up until 5am drinking. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour for a top athlete, i wonder if he stumbled into a piano also.

“We drank melon champagne from some lovely bottles he said were left over from
his birthday.

“We were together till 5am.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/f...occan-topless-model-while-dating-irina-shayk/
 

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Mate I'm 100% certain that it's true! At £300k/w minimum and Coleen always looking to launch a new perfume now and then, you can be sure that Coleen's Xmas party is not one to be missed.

Guests include Carragher, The Neville brothers, Owen Hargreaves, Ian Wright, Danny Murphy, Trevor Sinclair and a host of ex Liverpool pundits including Redknapp Jnr.

Notable absentees include Stan Collymore Paul Parker and every other sensible person in football and the CAF.

In the spirit of generosity, the Rooney PR team scout internet forums to pick the best fanboys of Wine Looney FC. And I repeat, at least 3 on here have tickets!

:lol:
While unlikely i suppose it's possible that ex-professionals are defending him because they've been wined and dined. But it's much more likely that they are just defending him out of A, loyalty or B, because it's a story thats been blown out of all proportion at this stage.

As for the bolded bit, hopefully you are joking but if you get to the point where you actually believe Rooney is paying internet forum members to defend him. Then it's probably time to take a break mate ;)
 

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Reality is he is now crap - thats why its a big deal.

Though even if it was DDG i reckon the Caf would voice their collective concerns.

He's finished, now we know that that doesnt overly bother him either.
 

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fecks sake, this happened over a week ago and they are still banging on about it, haven't they got anything else to talk about? It's such a boring nothing story.

Footballer has drink at party, big deal.
Totally agree . It shouldn`t be a worry to us anyway cos it appears Jose is dealing with it . He didn`t start him against Arsenal even though Zlatan was suspended and he isn`t dropping midfielders to squeeze him into the line up as has happened in the past .
 

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I think if you manage to come for the meeting and take part in it, it wouldnt be unprofessional.
It would be unprofessional if I turn up and is not in a good condition to contribute. it's even worse if I'm supposed to be the leader of the team.

For physical sports, too much booze and lack of sleep means that he was not in the best condition to train. it's unprofessional on his part.
 

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The Sun has this article on their site today:

Wayne Rooney's escort Jenny Thompson wows in leopard print bikini.
They have an obvious grudge with Rooney and seem intent on smearing his name. It's such a shame that so many posters on this forum have continually used baseless stories and speculation from this disgrace of a paper to start threads about him over the last few months.
 

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While unlikely i suppose it's possible that ex-professionals are defending him because they've been wined and dined. But it's much more likely that they are just defending him out of A, loyalty or B, because it's a story thats been blown out of all proportion at this stage.
It's obviously the "old boys brigade" syndrome that plagues the sport. There is loyalty but in England it's just blindness. You just have to see how the pundits defend their former clubs like dummies, and defend their former team mates. Gary Neville was respected because he spoke some truths against United and was unbiased in his views in his first year, now he's just joined the bunch of pals again. What we need are pundits that played in the lower leagues not ones that have some loyalty to prove. Take a look at how often Mata was criticised while Rooney had been getting a free ride in recent seasons. What we need are more unbiased pundits like Collymore. And I respect him for what he said in an interview last week "just because they are ex players, it doesn't make them much better than fans who watch their teams week in week out"
 

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The Sun has this article on their site today:



They have an obvious grudge with Rooney and seem intent on smearing his name. It's such a shame that so many posters on this forum have continually used baseless stories and speculation from this disgrace of a paper to start threads about him over the last few months.
This is just a petty and pointless post. It part of the game that all papers use to sell stories. It's nothing to do with a grudge. Rooney made her famous and she will be dumb not to use it to her advantage.
 

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Nice to see an oppo fan actually bothered by the Rooney situation and not just laughing from afar (not saying you can't laugh too, I wouldn't blame you!).

Yeah, I actually think it's indicative of a wider problem within English football that all fans should be somewhat miffed about - the football media (a huge industry in it's own right) being run by a mixture of paid off hacks who are now closer to being PR people than objective journalists, and 'old boys' who are close friends of the subjects they are paid handsomely to 'weigh-in' on.

It's basically a racket, and it creates problems for the English game I think. The highest paid/profile English players, those who should be receiving the most in depth level of critique (be it positive or negative) are the ones who have their games either airbrushed over, or exalted beyond all reality.

As fans have gotten more savvy and information-hungry the schism between what the pundits/hacks are peddling and the reality that the fans are seeing is getting wider and wider to the point where, as you pointed out, it begins to actually baffle as to how anyone could come out with lots of the garbage that they do and expect to be taken seriously.

For example, if someone joined redcafe and starting spouting what Wrighty, G.Nev or indeed any of the pundit circle do about Rooney, they'd be viewed as WUMs and would never get promoted. Because the angle they're taking just isn't even believable anymore - even from a moderate position.

Fans want insight and they want passionate opinion, and instead they have their intelligence insulted - and so when a 'scandal' leaks out of that bubble world that we've all got our noses pressed up against, people gobble it up...

If the media/pundit industry wasn't basically corrupt, players wouldn't be able to end up getting anywhere near as complacent as Rooney has gotten, and in turn, fans wouldn't be getting so fed up of being lied to by paid off cronies/friends of players that they end up mounting increased pressure on players via social media.
It's like brexit and trump. What sane person thinks as normal isn't actually normal by the majority.
 

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It's obviously the "old boys brigade" syndrome that plagues the sport. There is loyalty but in England it's just blindness. You just have to see how the pundits defend their former clubs like dummies, and defend their former team mates. Gary Neville was respected because he spoke some truths against United and was unbiased in his views in his first year, now he's just joined the bunch of pals again. What we need are pundits that played in the lower leagues not ones that have some loyalty to prove. Take a look at how often Mata was criticised while Rooney had been getting a free ride in recent seasons.
Its human nature to defend friends/ex team mates, it doesn't bother me. Mostly because i just ignore all that nonsense, i don't watch pre-match, half-time or post-match 'analysis' from pundits. And i don't read papers. You should try it.

Haven't really watched pundits for years since clowns sat in TV studios week after week back in 2014 saying Moyes was doing a good job and just needed time. They're all full of shit, rarely do they have anything of worth to say.

What we need are more unbiased pundits like Collymore. And I respect him for what he said in an interview last week "just because they are ex players, it doesn't make them much better than fans who watch their teams week in week out"
I can't imagine theres any situation where Stan Collymore is needed. Unless someone is required for a slapathon to raise money for charity or something.
 

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While unlikely i suppose it's possible that ex-professionals are defending him because they've been wined and dined. But it's much more likely that they are just defending him out of A, loyalty or B, because it's a story thats been blown out of all proportion at this stage.

As for the bolded bit, hopefully you are joking but if you get to the point where you actually believe Rooney is paying internet forum members to defend him. Then it's probably time to take a break mate ;)
Who knows, weird things happen in the world everyday.
 

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Who knows, weird things happen in the world everyday.
Nah Wayne's too cheap to pay anyone on here, thats why when most of the England squad went out to nightclubs last week he stayed in the Hotel to blag free drinks at a wedding.
 

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Just reading this. Did I just read we need more of Stan collymore? :lol:
We just need more ex-football pundits who agree with our armchair opinions! I don't want some ex-professional using the benefit of their experience and throwing out opinions that don't match my own... who do they think they are?

If I am disgusted by Rooney's behaviour... I don't want to listen to jug ears Lineker telling me he isn't! Stick to selling crisps. That's not what I pay my TV licence fee for.
 

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The Sun has this article on their site today:



They have an obvious grudge with Rooney and seem intent on smearing his name. It's such a shame that so many posters on this forum have continually used baseless stories and speculation from this disgrace of a paper to start threads about him over the last few months.
I dont believe for a second if any paper or media outlet said anything that wasnt true that Rooney wouldnt be suing the shit out of them, where theres blame theres a claim you know :lol:
 

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We just need more ex-football pundits who agree with our armchair opinions! I don't want some ex-professional using the benefit of their experience and throwing out opinions that don't match my own... who do they think they are?

If I am disgusted by Rooney's behaviour... I don't want to listen to jug ears Lineker telling me he isn't! Stick to selling crisps. That's not what I pay my TV licence fee for.
Yeah I have noticed this too. When Rio critiscized Rooney that was immediately accepted by many with 'Rio is a former player who knows not to drink' but when Gary Neville didn't, he is obviously supporting Rooney because of his friendship and some party nonsense.
 

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Just reading this. Did I just read we need more of Stan collymore? :lol:
Yeah calling for ''honesty'' from someone like Stan Collymore could be a sign that Rooney bashing is peaking.
 
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The Sun has this article on their site today:



They have an obvious grudge with Rooney and seem intent on smearing his name. It's such a shame that so many posters on this forum have continually used baseless stories and speculation from this disgrace of a paper to start threads about him over the last few months.
The fact "The Sun" is a scumbag of a paper, and has the integrity of a typical politician isnt in question.

As usual though your main defence of Rooney is to turn the focus onto someone/something else. Why dont you just admit, finally, that Rooney is finished? That he is grossly overpaid for the minimal input he gives on or off the pitch. Rooney has smeared his OWN name, nobody else. Do the Sun play each week, stinking up the place?

If you would just accept this i dont believe you would be ridiculed as much.
 

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The fact "The Sun" is a scumbag of a paper, and has the integrity of a typical politician isnt in question.

As usual though your main defence of Rooney is to turn the focus onto someone/something else. Why dont you just admit, finally, that Rooney is finished? That he is grossly overpaid for the minimal input he gives on or off the pitch. Rooney has smeared his OWN name, nobody else. Do the Sun play each week, stinking up the place?

If you would just accept this i dont believe you would be ridiculed as much.
I've many times admitted he's not good enough to start for us anymore. I was happy with him being dropped because he was deservedly dropped and at the same time he's deserved his minutes off late because he's been more than decent in games vs Fener and Swansea. He's contributing more than the likes of Rashford and Martial at this moment and if he does get picked to play some minutes, it's deserved right now. And honestly, I will never understand the Caf obsession with how much Rooney makes. You can discuss his performances and that's fair but this constant ridiculous bringing up of his salary over the last 3-4 years makes no sense. We have a lot of players at this club who don't deserve whatever they earn and yet it's only Rooney and his apparent 300k that get thrown about every week.

As far as The Sun goes, I do find it really sad that so many threads have been started about Rooney based on reports in The Sun and I'm not just talking about the latest drunken escapade. No one believes the likes of The Sun and The Mirror and yet there are new threads on here everytime that scumbag paper prints absolutely anything about him. I understand people don't rate him anymore but you'd think he'd be afforded slightly more respect. Also the bias in the media seems apparent even this week as they've reported nothing about England's other player's partying away or going to strip clubs but made such a massive deal about Wayne.
 

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Surprised this thread is still on-going. He's a twat and embarrassed himself - not much more to it.
 

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Rooney reconsidering stance on photos in public

Wayne Rooney has previously been very open with the public and is happy to talk to them as much as possible, but agent Paul Stretford revealed that he is reconsidering that stance.

“Undoubtedly one of the sad byproducts of this whole situation and everything Wayne has had to deal with since the night after the Scotland game means we are having to review the whole process of when he’s in public in his own time,” he told the Daily Mirror.

“Wayne has always been open to agreeing to pictures in public and enjoys engaging with the public as a normal person."

“That said, while 99.9% of people who approach Wayne are entirely genuine in their motives, sadly there’s a small minority with a their own agenda who want pictures of him for an entirely different purpose.”
http://www.football365.com/news/rooney-reconsidering-stance-on-photos-in-public
 

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Even I am beginning to feel a bit sorry for him. He stayed in the hotel, it now appears he didn't go into the wedding, the wedding came out to him. There was no curfew, some went out to a nightclub and two to a strip club and he has been hammered for what he did. I am beginning to think the media is circling on us as a club, not just Wayne. They are kicking Jose at every opportunity and there will be other targets.
 

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Even I am beginning to feel a bit sorry for him. He stayed in the hotel, it now appears he didn't go into the wedding, the wedding came out to him. There was no curfew, some went out to a nightclub and two to a strip club and he has been hammered for what he did. I am beginning to think the media is circling on us as a club, not just Wayne. They are kicking Jose at every opportunity and there will be other targets.
He's a grown up with a 5yo kid. Nobody put a gun in his head and force him to drink, let alone in public.
 

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He's a grown up with a 5yo kid. Nobody put a gun in his head and force him to drink, let alone in public.
Just because he has kids and is well known doesn't mean he's not allowed to enjoy himself in public in his private time. He had a few drinks so fecking what? Thats something lots of adults enjoy doing regularly including those with kids.

So lets stop pretending he did something wrong, people asked him to take a few photos while he was having a drink and relaxing and he obliged. Those people then sold the pictures to a newspaper and the paper spun a load of bullshit to make it look like something it wasn't.
 

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Just because he has kids and is well known doesn't mean he's not allowed to enjoy himself in public in his private time. He had a few drinks so fecking what? Thats something lots of adults enjoy doing regularly including those with kids.

So lets stop pretending he did something wrong, people asked him to take a few photos while he was having a drink and relaxing and he obliged. Those people then sold the pictures to a newspaper and the paper spun a load of bullshit to make it look like something it wasn't.
He is wrong, his conduct is unbecoming of a professional, let alone a footballer and a top athlete.

He has to come in for work the next day, he's being paid for it, coming in sober and fresh is part of the job.

What he did isn't against the law, but it's also not professional. He's being lambasted not for breaking any law, but simply for being irresponsible adult.

And let's not pretend that getting wasted till early morning has no bearing on his performance, he's not a clerk he's an athlete where every ounce of energy counts, in a game where every move is calculated, the pinnacle of football, and he gets drunk a day before training?
 

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He is wrong, his conduct is unbecoming of a professional, let alone a footballer and a top athlete.

He has to come in for work the next day, he's being paid for it, coming in sober and fresh is part of the job.

What he did isn't against the law, but it's also not professional. He's being lambasted not for breaking any law, but simply for being irresponsible adult.

And let's not pretend that getting wasted till early morning has no bearing on his performance, he's not a clerk he's an athlete where every ounce of energy counts, in a game where every move is calculated, the pinnacle of football, and he gets drunk a day before training?
It isn't great, but we don't know if some of the ones who went to the nightclub were wrecked as well, but Wayne is newsworthy, so they get away with it.
 

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He is wrong, his conduct is unbecoming of a professional, let alone a footballer and a top athlete.

He has to come in for work the next day, he's being paid for it, coming in sober and fresh is part of the job.

What he did isn't against the law, but it's also not professional. He's being lambasted not for breaking any law, but simply for being irresponsible adult.

And let's not pretend that getting wasted till early morning has no bearing on his performance, he's not a clerk he's an athlete where every ounce of energy counts, in a game where every move is calculated, the pinnacle of football, and he gets drunk a day before training?
Horseshit mate, you are basing your whole opinion on an article from the fecking Sun.

He was on England duty and they had a night off. They were having a light afternoon training session the next day, not playing in a fecking world cup final. The whole squad were out in various night clubs and strip clubs, but the guy who didn't even leave the hotel (and he wasn't even alone in that) is taking all the criticism. The England manager and FA officials were in the same hotel if he was doing anything he wasn't allowed to do i'm sure someone from the England management would have said something.

Stop buying into Rag tabloid bullshit and blowing something out of all proportion.
 

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Horseshit mate, you are basing your whole opinion on an article from the fecking Sun.

He was on England duty and they had a night off. They were having a light afternoon training session the next day, not playing in a fecking world cup final. The whole squad were out in various night clubs and strip clubs, but the guy who didn't even leave the hotel (and he wasn't even alone in that) is taking all the criticism. The England manager and FA officials were in the same hotel if he was doing anything he wasn't allowed to do i'm sure someone from the England management would have said something.

Stop buying into Rag tabloid bullshit and blowing something out of all proportion.
Ive said it before and Ill say it again, whilst it has been blown out of proportion, I dont believe for a second if the sun had said anything untrue that his scumbag agent wouldn't be seeking damages, any chance that cnut has to make a few extra quid he would take. (Stretford, not Rooney in this case)
 

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Horseshit mate, you are basing your whole opinion on an article from the fecking Sun.

He was on England duty and they had a night off. They were having a light afternoon training session the next day, not playing in a fecking world cup final. The whole squad were out in various night clubs and strip clubs, but the guy who didn't even leave the hotel (and he wasn't even alone in that) is taking all the criticism. The England manager and FA officials were in the same hotel if he was doing anything he wasn't allowed to do i'm sure someone from the England management would have said something.

Stop buying into Rag tabloid bullshit and blowing something out of all proportion.
It's a shit tabloid but the picture isn't photoshopped.
 

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Ive said it before and Ill say it again, whilst it has been blown out of proportion, I dont believe for a second if the sun had said anything untrue that his scumbag agent wouldn't be seeking damages, any chance that cnut has to make a few extra quid he would take. (Stretford, not Rooney in this case)
The Sun print so much bullshit and they have done it for so many years. Resulting in them getting sued so many times that they no doubt run these stories by a legal team to carefully word things and attribute quotes/details to third parties so as to minimize potential lawsuits.

Look at the quotes from the original article i'd believe there was a grain of truth to most of them but they were all exaggerated with times, locations slightly changed etc. It's probably stuff that would be hard to disprove to justify seeking damages. Theres not much to really gain from him dragging them to court everytime they print bullshit.

Is Rooney or anyone really going to go in front if a judge and try to sue a newspaper for saying he was playing a piano, or that he wasn't in the function room of the hotel in the wedding but in the adjoining room, or that he went to bed at 3am and not 5am?
 
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It's a shit tabloid but the picture isn't photoshopped.
Which picture?

What time was the picture taken? Which part of the hotel was the picture taken? How many drinks had he had at the point the picture was taken?

You don't know any of that stuff so you are accepting the Sun's version of events to fill in the context surrounding the picture. The Sun as most people know are probably the worst of the worst when it comes to gutter rags. They are only a step above the likes of the Weekly World News in terms of journalistic integrity.
 

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People get far too sensitive about Rooney.

Guys an adult.

Anyway, the whole episode seems to have reignited some aggression in him. So I'm glad it's happened.