The caf was unbearable then. The Moyes year was a real low point here.
When did you realise Moyes was not the man for United?
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When he took the whole of June off as vacation then turned up on the preseason tour looking like a bright red frightened rabbit.
It really was. Just brutal until he was gone and we had Giggs for the last few games.
Its hard to wrap your head around but there are still people who believe the world is flat. So it makes you realize despite overwhelming evidence some will just believe crazy shit.
At the friendly I saw live vs AIK here in Sweden... I got AIDS in my eyes, cause I saw Bebe play live
I discovered the Caf around the time of the Liverpool and City home humiliations, and found it a great source of comfort actually.
The minority of Moyes supporters that were left by then were keeping faith on the basis of United Way Give Him Time Top Redness, rather than any cultic worship of Moyes as a manager.
When I saw this image. It screams of a meme ''I have no idea what I'm doing''.
Almost pissed myself laughing when I first heard the rumours he'd take over and I was pretty convinced there was no way the board was that thick.
Well, I was wrong. After he was officially appointed I was pretty sceptical but still wanted to wait a little how things would develop. Then I saw this:
That picture convinced me he had no business coaching United players ever. That man probably couldn't believe his own luck, at a time where all the work still had to be done. That face screams of "I made it!!!". Like he already crossed the finish line while actually the starting gun hadn't even been fired. I kind of feel for him because I can relate to the feeling of having achieved a huge goal, but if you can't find a new goal that keeps the flames inside you burning it's only downhill from there. His comments didn't help him of course. Aspiring to be like City, not knowing what he has to do to win and stuff like that... boy what the hell did go on in his brain the moment he spew that defeatist crap?
Edit: Looks like I'm not the only one.
Well, I was wrong. After he was officially appointed I was pretty sceptical but still wanted to wait a little how things would develop. Then I saw this:
That picture convinced me he had no business coaching United players ever. That man probably couldn't believe his own luck, at a time where all the work still had to be done. That face screams of "I made it!!!". Like he already crossed the finish line while actually the starting gun hadn't even been fired. I kind of feel for him because I can relate to the feeling of having achieved a huge goal, but if you can't find a new goal that keeps the flames inside you burning it's only downhill from there. His comments didn't help him of course. Aspiring to be like City, not knowing what he has to do to win and stuff like that... boy what the hell did go on in his brain the moment he spew that defeatist crap?
Edit: Looks like I'm not the only one.
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I'd heard speculation a few years beforehand that Moyes would be a candidate when SAF retired.
Back then I just laughed it off as it seemed totally implausible that United would ever give him a second glance.
But when SAF did finally retire, and Moyes was being pushed forward as the 'Chosen One' I just looked on in shock & horror.
It was like watching a train crash in slow motion, with the outcome an inevitable conclusion.
Back then I just laughed it off as it seemed totally implausible that United would ever give him a second glance.
But when SAF did finally retire, and Moyes was being pushed forward as the 'Chosen One' I just looked on in shock & horror.
It was like watching a train crash in slow motion, with the outcome an inevitable conclusion.
Yes.
I’m going to give Dave props for one thing. He would actually go and watch people or teams play. Not something you see very often now from managers. Went to Rayo to watch Saul, was in Portugal checking on someone went to watch Bayern a few times.
Anyone remember when he said next year we are going to play like Bayern. That’s how he intended United to play. Oh Moyez
Anyone remember when he said next year we are going to play like Bayern. That’s how he intended United to play. Oh Moyez
Forget what we fans think...I bet even now Moyes wakes up every morning and thinks ‘Did they really give me the Utd job or did I just dreamed that?’
I’ll say this though. The Moyes season was the most memorable season and the most I was invested in since SAF retired.
There was something about his incompetence that was both entertaining, sad and endearing at the same time.
There was something about his incompetence that was both entertaining, sad and endearing at the same time.
I knew well before we signed him that he wasn't the right fit, but obviously when we did sign him I had to put those feelings to the back of my mind and hope for the best.
The guy was at a stable, big club like Everton for over a decade and his best achievement was finishing top four (and then crashing out of the CL) with them, not a single trophy. It's not like we were even getting someone like Poch who hadn't won anything but had dramatically improved the club he took over whilst playing football. Moyes had Everton in comfortable obscurity for ten fecking years.
I didn't expect it to be as bad as it was, I sort of expected him to keep us hovering around top four for a few languid seasons while we waited for a better manager to come along, turns out he was actually much worse than I'd ever anticipated.
One of the worst decisions a club has ever made.
The guy was at a stable, big club like Everton for over a decade and his best achievement was finishing top four (and then crashing out of the CL) with them, not a single trophy. It's not like we were even getting someone like Poch who hadn't won anything but had dramatically improved the club he took over whilst playing football. Moyes had Everton in comfortable obscurity for ten fecking years.
I didn't expect it to be as bad as it was, I sort of expected him to keep us hovering around top four for a few languid seasons while we waited for a better manager to come along, turns out he was actually much worse than I'd ever anticipated.
One of the worst decisions a club has ever made.
Probably THE worst. The club is still suffering from getting that appointment wrong.
98/99 when he started managing Preston.
You are deluded mate. He wake up thinks he should got that 6 years because such a champion like him deserved it. Fecking clown. He should be grateful he still allowed to enter Old Trafford
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sir-alex-ferguson-has-retired.370296/
The first reply summed up my thoughts.
He hadn’t done anything to prove he he should’ve been anywhere near the job.
The first reply summed up my thoughts.
He hadn’t done anything to prove he he should’ve been anywhere near the job.
Before we hired him.
I just never got why we were the only big club linked with him. I remember all the media and pundits saying he’d be ‘perfect’ for us, yet he’d never be linked with Arsenal, City, Chelsea or even Spurs but some how he’s ‘perfect’ for us. Foh. As if he’d be a SAF clone just because he’s also Scottish.
It’s also the reason I blame LVG way more for most of our recent problems and why I don’t hate Moyes like a lot of our fans seem to do.
It’s like getting mad at a 10 year old for crashing a Ferrari after you’ve told them, they can drive it.
I just never got why we were the only big club linked with him. I remember all the media and pundits saying he’d be ‘perfect’ for us, yet he’d never be linked with Arsenal, City, Chelsea or even Spurs but some how he’s ‘perfect’ for us. Foh. As if he’d be a SAF clone just because he’s also Scottish.
It’s also the reason I blame LVG way more for most of our recent problems and why I don’t hate Moyes like a lot of our fans seem to do.
It’s like getting mad at a 10 year old for crashing a Ferrari after you’ve told them, they can drive it.
True that
So, at the time this was an embarrasing performance. But honestly we've had much worse home performances since then. Some of the LVG/Jose stinkers make that look a decent performance.The moment when Evra made the 37th cross out of 81 in "that" game. What an inspiring "coaching" from the man
Seriously though, i never wanted that clown to be in charge of Manchester United and even feared long before SAF retired that we would go for him when the man retires. It was a self-fulfilling prophecy and was clearly destined to fail. How Fergie thought otherwise i will never know.
If you watch the video it was more the crosses were just SO BAD, rather than the actual tactic of it. It's actually nice to see Evra and Rafael so high up the pitch, I wish our fullbacks did that now
Anyway Moyes clearly wasn't the right fit, but i'm not sure this game was as bad as people made out. Olympiakos away though
Its the same with mourinho now.
About a year into his Everton stint.
The day he had the team running in the local park or beach, whatever that was.
The day we crossed the ball 81 times.
The day he let go of back staff winners.
The day he signed fellaini
The day he asked our defence to model themselves on Jagielka
Handling of Zaha who is still a super talent
The day we crossed the ball 81 times.
The day he let go of back staff winners.
The day he signed fellaini
The day he asked our defence to model themselves on Jagielka
Handling of Zaha who is still a super talent
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It isn't far off but we haven't plunged down to those depths yet.
From the day he appointed Phil Neville as his assistant. Probably from the beginning then!
The summer when he cleaned out the backroom staff and pulled the plug on Thiago.
My thoughts exactly.
Though after he was hired, I thought, "Let's give him a chance. He may turn out to do great things".
Unfortunately, my initial belief that he just isn't cut out for big clubs demanding trophies, came to pass and in around December/January time, I wanted confirmation that he would be fired and a top class manager (with an appropriate CV) would be hired.
LOL. I also joined this forum in utter frustration that he was not good enough.
On other forums, the general feeling was, "he needs more time". I was the only one saying that, "the more time we give this guy, the further we will fall and the longer it will take to get back up. He needs to go right now!"
However, when I joined this forum, I could see many people were thinking like me, which I found mentally calming.
When we lost at home to Newcastle, that was the final straw, it was horrific.
Hard to pinpoint the exact moment but it was the constant excuses in the press that did it for me, the way he talked us down constantly. I think the penny dropped for me when he compared us to Everton.
When he gave an aggressive clenched fist goal celebration with gritted teeth like Jurgen Stropp, against a
relegation threatened team, in an insignificant match.
relegation threatened team, in an insignificant match.
When he sacked SAF's staff and hired his team of losers...
This, it was all downhill from there.
I was never happy with his appointment, nor ever really convinced he was the man for us - but it was Sunderland in the cup where I definitely wanted him gone.
I still have nightmares about that game... we played for extra-time ffs
I still have nightmares about that game... we played for extra-time ffs
apart from negativity I felt before his appointment I realized he wasn't the right fir during pre-season. But that was pre-season.
First game against Swansea just proved that. Everything in our game seemed tumescent, forced, labored.
First game against Swansea just proved that. Everything in our game seemed tumescent, forced, labored.
I said when he was first appointed. This club was too big for him.
When he became the favourite for the job, my heart sank and I was a little bit down. He was never even under my radar.