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THere's not one person who would write anything negative about Giggs in the media and you would be hard pressed to find anyone associated with football say anything wrong about him. Wenger atleast had a pop or two at Scholes before his retirement but Giggs, no. Hell he's been a serial adulterer including his sister in law in his conquests and not one opposition fan chanted anything obscene at him while the likes of Terry and Rooney took dog's abuse. That's just the way he carries himself. The ultimate boss.
His sex life is none of our business, in matter of fact, some of the most brilliant minds in the worlds weren't exactly chaste.
I guess heart and soul automatically equates to title winning credentials doesn't it? How romantic
I remember people criticizing Giggs' appointment in the sense that he was sorta forced upon van Gaal. I dont understand why Giggs would be on anyones enemy list; many fans dont think he has the credentials to win trophies (some fans think otherwise) and want someone whos a proven winner at club level.
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This. 27 players that played under Fergie went on to become managers and not one of them is fit to manage a top team. Bruce and Hughes are probably the best of the bunch. The most popular, Robson and Keane have basically given up. What would make Giggs any different?
This is what I just don't get. Would being a success at Swansea qualify him for the manager's job at Man Utd? Rodgers was a success at Swansea - should we have appointed him?
No, but it would open the door to a club like Everton, Tottenham or Southampton and if he does exceeding well there he'd be in a position tot get the united job on merit.
I think you're missing the point. Nobody is saying go to Swansea, secure mid table a couple of times and he'll prove he's worthy for United. He's got to go to a club like Swansea, get them into the Champions League spots, play good football and win the League Cup or FA Cup.
So much nonsense has been said in this thread. Calling Giggs this and that is just so shameful. He's a bloody legend for god's sake. Like @nokillingmoths said, make him manager of the reserves or the youth team (Wasn't Pep in charge of the Barcelona B team) and see how he performs.
Do you think even the likes of Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola or Ancelloti would be able to achieve that ? Of the three managers I mentioned, the one person I actually think could do it is Jose Mourinho (Simple because of how he guided Porto to CL, that is no small feat)
It would make him more qualified surely?
What evidence do you have that Giggs would be able to do this? He has no managerial experience, so what are you basing this on?
He'll have a huge team behind him helping him. Also, van Gaal has said he's agreed with all the ideas that Giggs has come up with during discussions. He's one of the most intelligent footballers I've ever watched and he's been preparing for this for years. It's a bit like a young player who's learned the ropes in the reserves rather than out on loan.
Intelligent football player on the pitch does not equate to intelligent manager. Also, if LVG really agreed with his ideas, then he might also have implemented some of them, right? If he did so, wouldn't Giggs be partly responsible for our shit performances?
You could raise the same questions about anyone. LvG was apparently a world class manager before he came here and Mourinho is currently a failure.
I'm not sure it's a given that he'd have the players backing at all. Especially considering his squad mates are limited and probably the ones we'd have to bench.
I think you're missing the point. Besides, the conversation has nothing to do with LVG or Mourinho - it's Giggs' ability that's the issue. LVG and Mourinho have something you can point to - if it doesn't work out at one club or the other for them, that's life. But you are basing your suppositions on a man that has nothing to recommend him at all except he was a great player. Surely that is illogical? We are not in a good place to hand things over to an apprentice. Let him go prove himself elsewhere.
This is something people are overlooking, if success at Swansea isn't enough then surely now, when he doesn't even have that, he shouldn't be anywhere near the list of potential Man Utd managers.
He'll only get the job if LvG, the current coaching staff and the players all vouch for him. So far, they've said nothing but good things. If that gets repeated in private as well, he'll have the confidence of the squad and the Glazers will appoint him. At the end of the day, it was the playing staff's confidence that betrayed both Moyes and LvG. It's the main thing missing from the side at the moment. We'd be fine if we stopped playing within ourselves.
Doubt LVG will vouch for him anymore as he's getting sacked and has no need to be politically correct with Giggs. Some of the players will like him - meaning his ex teammates - don't think the other players will think much of him. And my last point - Giggs has no personality and cannot inspire an ant - never has he shown this, so I would be very surprised if he got everyone to pull their weight.
Moyes failing at United should never rule out any other lower table manager from growing into managing super clubs. I mean the likes of Ferguson, Ancelotti, Klopp and Mourinho started at the bottom and rose, Pochettino is looking like he is managing the step up to Spurs well. If that logic worked at all then people would never get promoted from CFO/COO to CEO or someone working at a tech start up would never get a job at Apple - people when they are well prepared grow with their responsibilities.
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Why? Would you like to see if I can help you fill one of their empty seats?
You are taking this too seriously.So Pep should have never been given the Barca job? It's not always so black and white.
Pep did a fantastic job in charge of Barca B. The only thing Giggs has been in charge of is Microsoft Power Point.
If Giggs is Pep's equal than he should be named manager, but is he? Since most fans don't know what Giggs is, they decided to be cautious.
Actually, it almost always is that black and white. Pep is a one-off. To come to a big club and manage the way he did takes a special football mind.
