ShinjiNinja26
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What has one assist got to do with the point of this thread? Pointless bump.Messi with a beautiful assist wow
What has one assist got to do with the point of this thread? Pointless bump.Messi with a beautiful assist wow
An under 23 tournament doesn't really count, in terms of senior level achievements.Why? Messi Has 3 trophies, 7 finals and has been twice player of the tournament with Argentina.
Cristiano has 2 trophies and 2 finals.
What am I missing?
That you're on the caf.Why? Messi Has 3 trophies, 7 finals and has been twice player of the tournament with Argentina.
Cristiano has 2 trophies and 2 finals.
What am I missing?
Euro is worth much more than any international trophy Messi has won. Copa America is a joke trophy at this point, they might well make it yearly tournament. Not to mention that Argentina is always (along with) Brazil the main candidate to win it.Why? Messi Has 3 trophies, 7 finals and has been twice player of the tournament with Argentina.
Cristiano has 2 trophies and 2 finals.
What am I missing?
Messi is or was better than Ronaldo, Messi offered more to the game each time than Ronnie did. Most games would pass Ronaldo by and then he scores a hattrick in the last ten mins. Messi is involved a lot more in the overall gameplay.That you're on the caf.
Messi is so clearly the better player of the two that I'm in shock every time I see people debate about it.
When did they become "champions of the world"?Ronaldo won the euros then Messi responded by helping Argentina become the champions of South America and champions of the world. The debate is settled.
This weekWhen did they become "champions of the world"?
Oh, the Finalissima shit. I get the sarcasm now, haha.This week
Seen this a lot, about the Euros being "worth' more than the Copa. It makes no sense and in any case, Messi cannot play in the Euros so we're stuck with what we have. Overall, Messi has been much better in international competitions than Ronaldo, I'm not even sure how that is debatable. Also, the fact that Argentina had won the Copa twice in 60 years before 2021 suggests that it's not quite as easy for them as you would imagine.....Euro is worth much more than any international trophy Messi has won. Copa America is a joke trophy at this point, they might well make it yearly tournament. Not to mention that Argentina is always (along with) Brazil the main candidate to win it.
Let the thread die please for the love of all that is good in the world let this thread die and never be resurrected. If there are no replies underneath this post then we will solve global warming and world hunger. The world will heal. As long as this inane point scoring bollocksology continues the world will continue to descend into flames.Seen this a lot, about the Euros being "worth' more than the Copa. It makes no sense and in any case, Messi cannot play in the Euros so we're stuck with what we have. Overall, Messi has been much better in international competitions than Ronaldo, I'm not even sure how that is debatable. Also, the fact that Argentina had won the Copa twice in 60 years before 2021 suggests that it's not quite as easy for them as you would imagine.....
This is an absolutely terrible take.Messi is or was better than Ronaldo, Messi offered more to the game each time than Ronnie did. Most games would pass Ronaldo by and then he scores a hattrick in the last ten mins. Messi is involved a lot more in the overall gameplay.
Internationally speaking, Ronaldo has had the better career, winning the Euros is quite an acheivement, held every 4 years unlike the Copa which is annually providing more opportunity to win the competiton.
I mean, you could help the situation yourself by not posting in this thread? But you'd rather demonstrate how you are above such petty squabbles. It's all good bud....Let the thread die please for the love of all that is good in the world let this thread die and never be resurrected. If there are no replies underneath this post then we will solve global warming and world hunger. The world will heal. As long as this inane point scoring bollocksology continues the world will continue to descend into flames.
Messi is a good footballer. Ronaldo is a good footballer. They are both good footballers. Further analysis is unnecessary, feck me.
It seems they're here to stick around.Let the thread die please for the love of all that is good in the world let this thread die and never be resurrected. If there are no replies underneath this post then we will solve global warming and world hunger. The world will heal. As long as this inane point scoring bollocksology continues the world will continue to descend into flames.
Messi is a good footballer. Ronaldo is a good footballer. They are both good footballers. Further analysis is unnecessary, feck me.
Personally I value the Copa America a lot less than euros, specially with how often they've been playing that tournament lately and relative to his country I think Portugal has done very good in the Ronaldo era, at least beyond expectations. Messi has been doing better lately but I think Ronaldo has been even better for Portugal.Why? Messi Has 3 trophies, 7 finals and has been twice player of the tournament with Argentina.
Cristiano has 2 trophies and 2 finals.
What am I missing?
Argentina has an insane degree of footballing heritage compared to Portugal in fact i think Argentina is one of the only countries to have won more games against Brazil than losing, that just shows you how good they are and were.Why? Messi Has 3 trophies, 7 finals and has been twice player of the tournament with Argentina.
Cristiano has 2 trophies and 2 finals.
What am I missing?
Copa Winner just played Euro winner off the field. This week I thinkEuro is worth much more than any international trophy Messi has won. Copa America is a joke trophy at this point, they might well make it yearly tournament. Not to mention that Argentina is always (along with) Brazil the main candidate to win it.
Let's see if Argentina could do that to England, who really should have won that European Championship trophy...Copa Winner just played Euro winner off the field. This week I think
Italy didn’t qualify for the World Cup failing to beat Macedonia. Stop the bullshit. The answer to this is clear.Copa Winner just played Euro winner off the field. This week I think
So its not true? I can think of quite a few games when he does absolutely nothing for nearly the full game and then scores. Portugal Vs Republic, done nothing the entire game and then scores a hattrick. 70% of the games hes played for United this season, same at Juve. Even at Madrid when he moved into the striker role he was less involved, he doesnt need to be but comparing Ronaldo and Messi overall play then Messi is ahead by a distance.This is an absolutely terrible take.
They won the Euros.Italy didn’t qualify for the World Cup failing to beat Macedonia. Stop the bullshit. The answer to this is clear.
People are overstating the Euros here a bit I think. We're talking about a tournament that has been won by Greece, Denmark and Czechoslovakia. Yet people would have you believe it's pretty much the same as winning the World Cup. It is not. Have a look and try and find the last time a team like Greece won the World Cup. Portugal winning the Euros was not astonishing in the slightest; nations with way less pedigree have won it before. However, it was great for them to win their first major prize.Argentina has an insane degree of footballing heritage compared to Portugal in fact i think Argentina is one of the only countries to have won more games against Brazil than losing, that just shows you how good they are and were.
They won 15 copa americas and came second an another 14 times while Portugal never won an international trophy in their entire existence, Ronaldo winning his country's first European must surely mean a lot more , quality of the competition aside.
so winnig the Euro means shite?Italy didn’t qualify for the World Cup failing to beat Macedonia. Stop the bullshit. The answer to this is clear.
They didn’t meet them in their euro form.so winnig the Euro means shite?
He may not even start all the WC matches based on the lineup against Spain.This is such a meh thread tbh, compared to the great elites both fall quite short when it comes to big tournament matches in international career. Especially Cristiano given his poor world cup record. But than gain he is Cristiano, I won't be shocked if he breaks the WC goal scoring record in 2022 edition.
Neither was Argentina. And the difference between the two of then was bigger than Argentina vs Venezuela in any form.They didn’t meet them in their euro form.
That this is a Utd forum with a heavy bias towards RonaldoWhy? Messi Has 3 trophies, 7 finals and has been twice player of the tournament with Argentina.
Cristiano has 2 trophies and 2 finals.
What am I missing?
Depends on the opposition. Portugal was completely outplayed by France but managed a jammy win. Without Ronaldo which was no fault of his. However a country like Denmark actually won over the big dogs in Europe in their run and in the final which was far more impressive than what Portugal did.Since both have started playing football, only European countries have won the World Cup!! Shows how difficult it is to win euro…… hands down Ronaldo!!
Since they started their careers, the Euros have been won by Greece. In Portugal, against a team featuring Ronaldo. Now which Copa winning team in the same period is as weak as that Greece side? Please let me know.Since the 2 of them started their international careers, 6 different European sides reached a WC final.
European teams won all 4 WC played in that period (3 of them opposed 2 European teams in the final).
This underlines how Messi’s Argentina faced a relatively poor competition in South America and failing to win more trophies there is a failure (a collective one).
For Ronaldo, winning 2 trophies in Europe is more than enough to consider that his Portugal was globally successful.
Pogba ’s international career is better than both. Even though winning for France is easier than winning for Portugal.