Sounds like second in the group is the preferred option long term.Slovenia
Denmark
Serbia
England
Odds are England will win the group
Getting through the round of 16 shouldn't be all that difficult, but then they have to play whoever wins the match between 2nd place Group A and 2nd place Group B. Group B is fairly strong with Spain, Croatia, Italy and Albania, so you expect England to play either Italy and Spain, both can be problematic.
Win that one and they are very likely to play the winner of Group D, which is Poland, Netherlands, Austria and France. You'd expect France to come out on top of that one.
Second in the group means likely route to be Germany, then Spain/Italy, then someone from Group D: Maybe France get an unlucky draw and end up finishing second in their group.Sounds like second in the group is the preferred option long term.
I know England fans (understandably) hate on Southgate a lot, but the players in the squad looks pretty strong this year in every attacking position.
Many players are peaking or close to: Foden, Kane, Bellingham, Mainoo, Palmer, Rice, Saka. Even Maguire is in decent shape. Only looking a bit light on the backs imo. England, France and Portugal looks the strongest of them all imo. Spain could of course surprise, as they play like a unit.
So which team has the easiest way to the semis/finals from the other groups and avoids all that? Any group/team that stands out?Second in the group means likely route to be Germany, then Spain/Italy, then someone from Group D: Maybe France get an unlucky draw and end up finishing second in their group.
I think both paths are problematic, while England have been very lucky with the draws in the two previous tournaments.
But yeah, if France are emerging as dominant in their group then it's going to be a lot better to finish second
It depends heavily on how the favourites in D and C perform, England and France. If they win their groups, winning group A and B will mean that you don't have to face England or France until the final.So which team has the easiest way to the semis/finals from the other groups and avoids all that? Any group/team that stands out?
In short: Spain/Germany and Portugal has a route where they have to beat each other if they win their groups as expected.It depends heavily on how the favourites in D and C perform, England and France. If they win their groups, winning group A and B will mean that you don't have to face England or France until the final.
In theory, i would say that Group A and B have advantage up until final.
Group B winner plays best ranked 3rd team A/D/E/F. Group D is the standout group with Poland, Netherlands, Austria and France.
Whoever wins that match has to play the winner between winner Group A and runner up Group C: In theory you'd expect it to be Germany.
Winner of that match will play semi final against whoever wins between winner group F and 3rd group A/B/C: Group F is Turkey, Georgia, Portugal and Czech.
Whoever comes third in
On paper I'd say so, you've got o e of the best goalscorers out there, Foden, Saka and Palmer coming off great seasons and all capable of scoring goals, Bellingham coming off a barnstorming Madrid season. Even Rice has improver considerably in terms of attacking play.Is England's attack really that impressive?
Didn’t we finish 2nd in one of the previous tournaments for the easier route when we had to come up against Croatia and lost. Or was that if you finished 1st you got the easier route. Think we had Belgium in our group. I just remember us taking the easier route and still losing.Second in the group means likely route to be Germany, then Spain/Italy, then someone from Group D: Maybe France get an unlucky draw and end up finishing second in their group.
I think both paths are problematic, while England have been very lucky with the draws in the two previous tournaments.
But yeah, if France are emerging as dominant in their group then it's going to be a lot better to finish second
You finished 2nd in 2018 and played Colombia - Sweden - Croatia in semis.Didn’t we finish 2nd in one of the previous tournaments for the easier route when we had to come up against Croatia and lost. Or was that if you finished 1st you got the easier route. Think we had Belgium in our group. I just remember us taking the easier route and still losing.
Ye I thought that was the case. Also depends on other groups and who finishes 1st/2nd to decide if you get an easier knockout game.You finished 2nd in 2018 and played Colombia - Sweden - Croatia in semis.
Belgium finished first in their group and played Japan - Brazil - France
Finishing second was better than finishing first in that group.
Southgate probably won’t start him in many games. Will most likely be Rice, Bellingham and Foden.England will finally win it. The Mainoo effect.
Ofcourse, there's obviously going to be surprising results, but on paper the groups in the 2018 WC were fairly obvious in terms being better to finish second rather than first in Englands group.Ye I thought that was the case. Also depends on other groups and who finishes 1st/2nd to decide if you get an easier knockout game.
Foden can replace Rashford/Sterling in the front three. Kane, saka, foden with Mainoo, Rice, Bellingham behind. Wouldn't put it past Southgate to feck it up though.Southgate probably won’t start him in many games. Will most likely be Rice, Bellingham and Foden.
Yeah, in general, I'm comfortable betting on a team with a strong defensive base and just hoping some mercurial or inexperienced attacking player hits a bit of form, than a team with Trippier-Maguire on the left side of defence.England's attack is clearly high class and we do have alot of players approaching their peaks.
I just think though our defense is clearly weaker as a unit which I think is a big problem in tournament football.
I think Southgate is just the man to do that.I don't like saying this but I think England should win it. My only hope is that Southgate, once again, manages to grab failure from the jaws of success.
The last group game was against Belgium and neither team really gave a shit. England lost, finished 2nd and landed the 'easier' route, went on to lose to Croatia in the semis and played another game against Belgium in the 3rd place playoff that neither team gave a shit about. Phil Jones started both games, which I think says everything.Didn’t we finish 2nd in one of the previous tournaments for the easier route when we had to come up against Croatia and lost. Or was that if you finished 1st you got the easier route. Think we had Belgium in our group. I just remember us taking the easier route and still losing.
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I think people don't really know how to rate the new German team as now for the first time after almost 15 years it's not "Mix the cores of Bayern and Dortmund and then put some fillers around it". Instead the central axis mostly comes from Real and Leverkusen (who got a lot of attention this season, but still aren't as known as Bayern and Dortmund in Europe) while Bayern still has the most players in Germany's squad but their starters most likely will only be on the wing (+Neuer) and not be the heart of the team. And behind them Stuttgart has the second most players included, a club nobody knows about as they have been completely irrelevant in the last decade.People are sleeping on Germany. They're by no means a classic quality German side and have on paper a lesser squad compared to England and specially France. But I still think they have to be a leading candidate to win this. Nagelsmann has them playing well again and they're at home. They have some decent young talent too.