True if you base your ideas on just one game, which is one of toughest of the season so far.Lindelof made 13 starts last season because when our first choice CBs were injured he came in. Exactly what Fred isnt doing right now, McTominay and Andreas are instead.
If the coaches don't think he's ready now, you'd have to wonder if he has a future here at all!True if you base your ideas on just one game, which is one of toughest of the season so far.
As I said earlier Ole has already said he's having trouble adjusting to Prem football, so why would you introduce him in a home game against your biggest rivals with very little prep. Why don't you wait for a few more games and see what happens against Palace Soton and PSG, you'll have a better idea by then.
I think he just need a good run of matches, preferably starting with a couple of easy home matches. The problem is that every match now is do or die in terms of top four.He can't be that bad, can he? I mean, City made an offer for him last year (January), he must have impressed them. Maybe he isn't all that but must have useful attributes.
City also bought Mangala once.He can't be that bad, can he? I mean, City made an offer for him last year (January), he must have impressed them. Maybe he isn't all that but must have useful attributes.
Yeah, Ole has already said about needing the right players to compliment each other. Pogba gets the glory but Herera and Matic are crucial for freeing him up. I am guessing Fred would be the player to come in for Pogba in Solskjaer's mind but at the moment Pogba is undroppable.McTominay and Pereira are ahead of him in the managers thoughts right now. Simples. They are not kids, they are first team squad members. Solskjaer has generally been consistent in his selections, obviously fancies the Matic/ McTominay ‘type’ for the holding role and has Andreas higher in the pecking order for the ‘other’ midfielder. I’m sure if one of them need to be replaced in the line up Fred will get a look in.
Pre Guardiola though. Guardiola was a midfileder and this must be the role he understands the best.City also bought Mangala once.
He wanted Sanchez, Pep being interesred in a player doesn't guarantee anything.Pre Guardiola though. Guardiola was a midfileder and this must be the role he understands the best.
It guarantees that the player has quality though, even if it is not the highest quality. Both Sanchez and Fred, and also Jorginho, might have been decent at City, or even more than decent.He wanted Sanchez, Pep being interesred in a player doesn't guarantee anything.
The point is it doesnt look good for Fred to be getting these games when the kids are being picked over him. It's possible but seems unlikely that suddenly Fred is being picked ahead of them from nowTrue if you base your ideas on just one game, which is one of toughest of the season so far.
As I said earlier Ole has already said he's having trouble adjusting to Prem football, so why would you introduce him in a home game against your biggest rivals with very little prep. Why don't you wait for a few more games and see what happens against Palace Soton and PSG, you'll have a better idea by then.
Not wrong but it doesn't help us at all.It guarantees that the player has quality though, even if it is not the highest quality. Both Sanchez and Fred, and also Jorginho, might have been decent at City, or even more than decent.
Andreas P could translateDoes the coaching staff speak the language which Fred speaks? Far as I know he is still learning english, so does anyone of the staff speak his language? Can lack of communication be part of this dilemma?
Yep. Although the narrative seems to be he is crap now because he hasn't featured much. Such an odd situation. How is he going to improve when he never gets any playing time?Thing is he had a few games earlier in the season where he looked alright. Him and Pogba were building something. Then he’s not had a look in since.
It is actually the opposite. He was crap when he played earlier so he has not featured much lately. Reason given was he needs time to adapt which I am not fully convinced with.Yep. Although the narrative seems to be he is crap now because he hasn't featured much. Such an odd situation. How is he going to improve when he never gets any playing time?
I don't think Ole is purposely making him any worse than he is. He was shite against Reading, his last game, that was almost 2 months back. Which manager does not want a good player in his team, unless there is some personal issue between manager and player? So, possible conclusion could be he is equally shite in training too and hence not getting chance.I refuse to believe Fred is as bad as our management team is making him out to be. To give Sanchez and lukaku a chance and not Fred some game time seems conflicting. With the injuries in the team, no doubt we will have to see him sooner rather than later
If Ole is still here then Fred will have to leave anyways. Ole clearly doesn't rate him for whatever reason.It is actually the opposite. He was crap when he played earlier so he has not featured much lately. Reason given was he needs time to adapt which I am not fully convinced with.
This season is written off anyway. But next season it is going to get pretty serious. If he is not ready by then then better start looking for another signing because we need midfield backup for sure.
Ole: Herreras injured, we have to stop Liverpool Fred, are you ready?Andreas P could translate
Wild wild conjecture. This is like looking at clouds in Venus and making a case for the existence of dinasaurs there.He was suspended for using PEDs in the past. Perhaps the club found out he has been up to it again and are trying to keep him iff the pitch to avoid a very serious investiagtion. Then again this is pure conjecture.
They also nearly brought Jorge at Chelsea.He can't be that bad, can he? I mean, City made an offer for him last year (January), he must have impressed them. Maybe he isn't all that but must have useful attributes.
So were Pereira and McTominay. The reading game is such a stupid game to judge players on though - they were thrown in together with a mismatched team. The way you should integrate players is by rotating them in and out with the first teamers.I don't think Ole is purposely making him any worse than he is. He was shite against Reading, his last game, that was almost 2 months back. Which manager does not want a good player in his team, unless there is some personal issue between manager and player? So, possible conclusion could be he is equally shite in training too and hence not getting chance.
The reason I am upset because I knew this day (yesterday) would come when we need him as backup. Just couldn't see that day would come so early. Man, we could have won 3 points had we had a reasonably good backup.
Ha! That’s almost amusing revelzOle: Herreras injured, we have to stop Liverpool Fred, are you ready?
Fred: Yes boss, I'm ready!
Andreas: He said "feck you, bring back Jose".
Ole: Sigh... another 2 months on the bench Fred. Andreas, warm up.
I think you’ve nailed it. Ole has probably decided that Fred is too much of a defensive liability to play anything but the Pogba role. And since the team is built around Pogba, there always needs to be a sub for him on the bench in case of injury.What’s odd is that he is never getting minutes yet is still on the bench, that suggests that maybe he is purely seen as a Pogba deputy rather than someone who can come on and do a more defensive or auxiliary role, for example.
Given that Pogba is undroppable right now and that every point counts he’s not getting a look in.
City may have been just pushing up the price. / wages for us, same with Sanchez.He can't be that bad, can he? I mean, City made an offer for him last year (January), he must have impressed them. Maybe he isn't all that but must have useful attributes.
This. Fred has been awful in possession. His passing accuracy has been terrible, especially in his defensive half. He’s unable to effectively link defence with the attack. Secondly, he hasn’t caught up to the speed at which midfielders are closed down by the opposition here in the Prem. Several times he’s lost possession by dithering on the ball. Will he improve? Maybe. But there is no way you can throw him onto the field against Liverpool, who are set up to take advantage of these weaknesses.I feel like Ole just didn't wanna risk it. The amount of balls He gave away was shocking We can't do that against Liverpool.
He might have played in the reserves? Do we know if he hasn't? Someone mustHe hasn't kicked a ball in a month an a half. There's no way he starts on Wednesday. It's our fault. We should have been giving him 20 minutes here and there. As it is, he's in no condition to help the team.
McTominay was quite decent in that match, particularly in the second half if I remember correctly. He significantly outperformed the other two.So were Pereira and McTominay
Well, this sums up Mourinho's baffling approach to bringing in players, with no obvious clue to how they were to fit in to an overall plan. Van Gaal's criteria for buying and selecting players may not have been taking us in the direction we wanted, but it was possible to see the reasoning behind it and he didn't behave as if there was money to burn.I am totally baffled too. This is unprecedented, or at least I don't remember such expensive signee in mid 20s travelling with the squad but eventually warming the bench even when options run out on the manager. He has been here for 8 months ffs. Nobody knows what the feck is going on in training. He is not injured, I don't know if there is relationship problem between Ole and him. Yesterday the team was crying out loud for help, any help. Yet, manager doesn't trust him. jeez.
