Jaybomb
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Equal rights would be a female team that isn't subsidised by the money that the men's team brings in.Morally, we should have one. Equal rights and all that. However the level of interest and the fact that it isn't cost effective, makes it pointless.
I think it is cost effective though really. We have access to Leigh sports village, we will charge entry to games, we have MUTV which can broadcast games which would generate advertising revenue. We would also be encouraging girls of all ages to get involved in the sport whether it be watching, playing, coaching, whatever.Morally, we should have one. Equal rights and all that. However the level of interest and the fact that it isn't cost effective, makes it pointless.
This is the point most so-called SJWs don't get - the mens game has almost two centuries worth of development, and has taken a lot of blood, sweat and tears (literally at times) to get to where it is today. People now expect the women's game to skip all that, and ride on the back of the men's game. If there was true equality, women would start exactly where men started, and try to build their game from that. Anything else would be unjust, and morality doesnt really have anything to do with it.Equal rights would be a female team that isn't subsidised by the money that the men's team brings in.
Who pays for the youth teams/academy? Is that subsidised by the money the men's team makes?Equal rights would be a female team that isn't subsidised by the money that the men's team brings in.
I agree there should be a women's team. I'm just going by the decision the owners made when they folded the one that did exist, citing it was not cost effective.I think it is cost effective though really. We have access to Leigh sports village, we will charge entry to games, we have MUTV which can broadcast games which would generate advertising revenue. We would also be encouraging girls of all ages to get involved in the sport whether it be watching, playing, coaching, whatever.
The womens game is growing and it's great I don't care what anybody says I will happily argue the points with anybody on this. I would love to see a United womens team.
United citing cost effectiveness when we're one of if not the richest club in the world is patheticI agree there should be a women's team. I'm just going by the decision the owners made when they folded the one that did exist, citing it was not cost effective.
We are the richest club in the world because the money men know what they are doing. They only speculate to accumulate.United citing cost effectiveness when we're one of if not the richest club in the world is pathetic
Would that not be more of a treat than a punishment? Especially hitting the showers after the game.The biggest advantage of that is that we'd be able to send under-performers to play there until they grow a pair.
Hmm. Didn't think about it that wayWould that not be more of a treat than a punishment? Especially hitting the showers after the game.
Young boys get the chance to join an academy get their education and play football for a big club. Young girls will never get the same opportunity unless someone invests in them the same way. A tad unfair in my book.My tagline will look suspect for this, but why on earth should we have a women's team? At the end of the day, United are a business, why should we expect them to create a women's team if it doesn't make any money? I don't understand it.
Even if we made a loss on women's football, it would probably equate to a few weeks salary of a male footballer (I'm just guessing tbh). Point is we can afford to take a loss on it more than most clubs, yet we don't. It's pretty poor.We are the richest club in the world because the money men know what they are doing. They only speculate to accumulate.
No. I agree but in purely business terms it's understandable. On the other hand, if it was done right, it could end up as another viable revenue stream. If anyone could market it right and find a way to make it profitable, we could.Even if we made a loss on women's football, it would probably equate to a few weeks salary of a male footballer (I'm just guessing tbh). Point is we can afford to take a loss on it more than most clubs, yet we don't. It's pretty poor.
They do. Just not at United.Young boys get the chance to join an academy get their education and play football for a big club. Young girls will never get the same opportunity unless someone invests in them the same way. A tad unfair in my book.
Agreed. Adding to that further, it should be one team of mixed gender where ability is the most relevant factor in recruitment, which would likely mean all men's teams, at the highest levels anyway.Equal rights would be a female team that isn't subsidised by the money that the men's team brings in.
Because we are Man chest hair United
So, so bad. Terrible. I laughed though.Because we are Man chest hair United
Because those boys could go on to be a superstar for United or at least be sold for a few million quid to Burnley.Young boys get the chance to join an academy get their education and play football for a big club. Young girls will never get the same opportunity unless someone invests in them the same way. A tad unfair in my book.
We really need a tumbleweed smileyBecause we are Man chest hair United
But how will the women's game ever reach anywhere near the same levels if we don't encourage them, invest in them and take it more seriously? Slowly but surely women's football is becoming more appealing, attracting more audience and improving in quality. Why not be a part of that?Because those boys could go on to be a superstar for United or at least be sold for a few million quid to Burnley.
Why is it unfair? The women's game gets the expected revenue invested in it. ie none
Hate all this "equality" crap. Cut the women's prize money at Wimbledon if you want equality.
Untied has a deaf team as well as disabled teams and on top of that runs community coaching for local at risk youth and kids, all subsidised by the money the mens game brings in.Equal rights would be a female team that isn't subsidised by the money that the men's team brings in.
I agree with this in one way. If you've got young female football fans, it gives them a dream of one day playing for United. It's the dream of every young boy who is a United fan. That is the main reason United should have one in my opinion.Young boys get the chance to join an academy get their education and play football for a big club. Young girls will never get the same opportunity unless someone invests in them the same way. A tad unfair in my book.
First of all, feck off with the "SJW" crap. It's literally meaningless at this point, and as someone who'd you probably label as an SJW, it makes me actively avoid engaging with you.This is the point most so-called SJWs don't get - the mens game has almost two centuries worth of development, and has taken a lot of blood, sweat and tears (literally at times) to get to where it is today. People now expect the women's game to skip all that, and ride on the back of the men's game. If there was true equality, women would start exactly where men started, and try to build their game from that. Anything else would be unjust, and morality doesnt really have anything to do with it.
The biggest advantage of that is that we'd be able to send under-performers to play there until they grow a pair.
Because we are Man chest hair United
Whats there not to like?
Women? Check
Football? Yeaaa..
United?? Hell ya..
Woman going on another woman with intent to hurt and maim? Ohhhhhh yeaa
This.First of all, feck off with the "SJW" crap. It's literally meaningless at this point, and as someone who'd you probably label as an SJW, it makes me actively avoid engaging with you.
The rest of your post, however, makes so little sense, and reeks of ignorance to the point that I just have to respond.
Saying they should have to fight the same fight that the men fought to get to where they are today, would be like my dad believing I should have to start out doing back-breaking labor, unsupervised and without safety gear, being paid a pittance while doing so, because it took him and his generation a lot of blood, sweat and tears to achieve the rights and protections that they have today.
Historically speaking, women have been playing football as long as men. There are many reason for why the women's game hasn't managed to reach the heights of the men's, but associations actively working against them for a long time might've had something to do with it. Hell, at one point women's football was popular enough that some teams attracted bigger crowds than men's teams. Then the FA decided to ban them from playing on the same grounds as association members (a ban that lasted 50 years, I might add). Societal attitudes towards women taking part in such activities was also a major factor. A man who spent his days hitting metal with a hammer wasn't going be thought any less of if he then kicked a ball around after work. For a woman, doing so would be deemed improper. Should women not be allowed to take part in the sport today, on the grounds that they were denied the ability to influence or take part in the development of the sport back then?
No one is saying that we should establish a team and spend millions on bringing in players and then pay them Rooney-money. Simply establishing a women's first team to give the girls in our youth teams something to aspire towards, to help nurture, develop and promote the women's game would be enough. I'd hate for us only to get involved when there's money to be made on it (thus skipping all the hard work and just riding on the backs of all the hard work and sacrifices made by other clubs, who were willing to make those sacrifices in order to help the game grow).
Can I clap out loud at that? I think I might clap. Yep, I clapped.First of all, feck off with the "SJW" crap. It's literally meaningless at this point, and as someone who'd you probably label as an SJW, it makes me actively avoid engaging with you.
The rest of your post, however, makes so little sense, and reeks of ignorance to the point that I just have to respond.
Saying they should have to fight the same fight that the men fought to get to where they are today, would be like my dad believing I should have to start out doing back-breaking labor, unsupervised and without safety gear, being paid a pittance while doing so, because it took him and his generation a lot of blood, sweat and tears to achieve the rights and protections that they have today.
Historically speaking, women have been playing football as long as men. There are many reason for why the women's game hasn't managed to reach the heights of the men's, but associations actively working against them for a long time might've had something to do with it. Hell, at one point women's football was popular enough that some teams attracted bigger crowds than men's teams. Then the FA decided to ban them from playing on the same grounds as association members (a ban that lasted 50 years, I might add). Societal attitudes towards women taking part in such activities was also a major factor. A man who spent his days hitting metal with a hammer wasn't going be thought any less of if he then kicked a ball around after work. For a woman, doing so would be deemed improper. Should women not be allowed to take part in the sport today, on the grounds that they were denied the ability to influence or take part in the development of the sport back then?
No one is saying that we should establish a team and spend millions on bringing in players and then pay them Rooney-money. Simply establishing a women's first team to give the girls in our youth teams something to aspire towards, to help nurture, develop and promote the women's game would be enough. I'd hate for us only to get involved when there's money to be made on it (thus skipping all the hard work and just riding on the backs of all the hard work and sacrifices made by other clubs, who were willing to make those sacrifices in order to help the game grow).
feck off with the misogynistic bullshit.I would definitely be turned on watching a female keano, running around shaking other hot ladies in shorts, sliding from the back, Pulling shirts, elbowing their boobies..
Awwww... Bring it in already!
Do you not think women enjoy watching men doing the same thing?feck off with the misogynistic bullshit.
Well, I know some women football fans who admitted watching men's football games to drool-... admiring the men.Do you not think women enjoy watching men doing the same thing?
Agree, tbh it's kinda embarrassing though for the best football club in world, Manchester United, to not have a representative women's football team. The reality is football is a neutral sport, played and loved by both men and women. Current levels are obviously far different, but the love of the sport is still the same.Historically speaking, women have been playing football as long as men. There are many reason for why the women's game hasn't managed to reach the heights of the men's, but associations actively working against them for a long time might've had something to do with it. Hell, at one point women's football was popular enough that some teams attracted bigger crowds than men's teams. Then the FA decided to ban them from playing on the same grounds as association members (a ban that lasted 50 years, I might add). Societal attitudes towards women taking part in such activities was also a major factor. A man who spent his days hitting metal with a hammer wasn't going be thought any less of if he then kicked a ball around after work. For a woman, doing so would be deemed improper. Should women not be allowed to take part in the sport today, on the grounds that they were denied the ability to influence or take part in the development of the sport back then?
No one is saying that we should establish a team and spend millions on bringing in players and then pay them Rooney-money. Simply establishing a women's first team to give the girls in our youth teams something to aspire towards, to help nurture, develop and promote the women's game would be enough. I'd hate for us only to get involved when there's money to be made on it (thus skipping all the hard work and just riding on the backs of all the hard work and sacrifices made by other clubs, who were willing to make those sacrifices in order to help the game grow).