Or, get like, Smalling, Jones, Rojo and Valencia to pick up someone like Shaw or Mata, and sort of use him like a battering ram to hit it backwards.
This is flawless.
Why hasn't anyone used this tactic yet?
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This is flawless.
And here it is:
"If, however, in the opinion of the referee, a player uses a deliberate trick in order to circumvent the amendment to Law 12, the player will be guilty of unsporting behavior and will be punished accordingly in terms of Law 12; that is to say, the player will be cautioned and an indirect free-kick will be awarded to the opposing team from the place where the player committed the offense. Examples of such tricks would include: a player who deliberately flicks the ball with his feet up onto his head in order to head the ball to his goalkeeper; or, a player who kneels down and deliberately pushes the ball to the goalkeeper with his knee, etc. In such circumstances, it is irrelevant whether the goalkeeper subsequently touches the ball with his hands or not. The offense is committed by the player in attempting to circumvent both the text and the spirit of Law 12, and the referee must only be convinced that this was the player’s motive."
https://footballsci.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/fifa-laws-of-the-game-12-the-back-pass-rule/
Since the back pass rule was introduced to stop time wasting, the referee would (and should) immediately stop something like this. The heading strategy would clearly fall under "tricks". Yellow card (defender, gk or both) + indirect freekick to the other team.
"If, however, in the opinion of the referee, a player uses a deliberate trick in order to circumvent the amendment to Law 12, the player will be guilty of unsporting behavior and will be punished accordingly in terms of Law 12; that is to say, the player will be cautioned and an indirect free-kick will be awarded to the opposing team from the place where the player committed the offense. Examples of such tricks would include: a player who deliberately flicks the ball with his feet up onto his head in order to head the ball to his goalkeeper; or, a player who kneels down and deliberately pushes the ball to the goalkeeper with his knee, etc. In such circumstances, it is irrelevant whether the goalkeeper subsequently touches the ball with his hands or not. The offense is committed by the player in attempting to circumvent both the text and the spirit of Law 12, and the referee must only be convinced that this was the player’s motive."
https://footballsci.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/fifa-laws-of-the-game-12-the-back-pass-rule/
Since the back pass rule was introduced to stop time wasting, the referee would (and should) immediately stop something like this. The heading strategy would clearly fall under "tricks". Yellow card (defender, gk or both) + indirect freekick to the other team.
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When I was a kid I always wondered why players didn't hold their shirt out with their hands to cradle the ball, and run. 
This would fall under FIFA's Trickery rules under Law #12.
http://www.football-bible.com/soccer-info/football-back-pass-rule.html
http://www.football-bible.com/soccer-info/football-back-pass-rule.html
Just get an opposition player to stand in front of the keeper then it wouldn't work. This is ridiculous.
That page makes my "is this page trustworthy"-AddOn's spider sense tingle.
It's a significant step further than taking it to the corner, which at least gives your opponent a fair chance of regaining posession. And why that specifically isn't seen as unsporting. There is no way you could get the ball back in this scenario.
I have actualled devised this tactic before but I also realised it has many flaws. The defender may be hogged. A player from the opposite team could just commit a foul for a free kick at another part of the field etc
This. And/or put your striker to mark the defender.
I guess nobody used this as it is highly risky and if you're defending the lead you want to have the ball as far away from your GK as possible.
However you can use this as 1-2 with the defender sprinting forward to receive the ball from the throw to the space. It's commonly used in beach soccer. I guess for "soccer" it's still too risky.
However you can use this as 1-2 with the defender sprinting forward to receive the ball from the throw to the space. It's commonly used in beach soccer. I guess for "soccer" it's still too risky.
You really cannot believe it'll be impossible to mess it up because among the things human can guarantee you to do, it's mistakes.
Probably less likely to fail if you have your wingers/strikers literally take it in turns to leg it to the 'keeper and head it back to him. At least they'd have a straight race, allowing them to lose their man.
Even that is guaranteed to fail at some point, with either an over-powered/under-powered header or over/under throw.
Even that is guaranteed to fail at some point, with either an over-powered/under-powered header or over/under throw.
Pretty sure there'd be a rule for it, similar to how a defender can't get on his knees to head a ball that was on the floor back to the keeper for him to pick it up.
Also, you'd be a dick.
Also, you'd be a dick.
Is this seriously what Redcafe.net has come to?
Imagine Smalling holding Mata and using him as a club to get the ball for Fellaini chest.And how long do you propose they play this ridiculous game?
Each round will only take a few seconds, I reckon they'd have to do it 6-10 times to waste a minute. so say there are 10 minutes left, so that's 60 to 100 times. Seriously?
It would be a travesty for the game, certainly unsporting, and the crowd would probably start a riot. Do you think in all those times they wouldn't make one mistake and let the opposition in?
Either your on a Baz or TBP style WUM or you're 8 years old.
Each round will only take a few seconds, I reckon they'd have to do it 6-10 times to waste a minute. so say there are 10 minutes left, so that's 60 to 100 times. Seriously?
It would be a travesty for the game, certainly unsporting, and the crowd would probably start a riot. Do you think in all those times they wouldn't make one mistake and let the opposition in?
Either your on a Baz or TBP style WUM or you're 8 years old.
Bringing the game into disrepute.
It can be used for basically anything.
It can be used for basically anything.
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Are you sure?
seriously when you think it's incredibly stupid.I've had an even better idea, how about this:
Head back to the goalkeeper, who picks up the ball and walks around his area for 6 seconds. Puts the ball down and rolls it with his foot. Picks the ball up again and walks around his area for another 6 seconds, ball down, foot roll, pick up, 6 second walk.
If the keeper is challenged, it's an automatic free kick. The keeper kicks the ball 2 inches, picks up, walks for 6 seconds, ball down, rolls it, etc you get the idea.
It's brilliant and very low risk!
Head back to the goalkeeper, who picks up the ball and walks around his area for 6 seconds. Puts the ball down and rolls it with his foot. Picks the ball up again and walks around his area for another 6 seconds, ball down, foot roll, pick up, 6 second walk.
If the keeper is challenged, it's an automatic free kick. The keeper kicks the ball 2 inches, picks up, walks for 6 seconds, ball down, rolls it, etc you get the idea.
It's brilliant and very low risk!
My thoughts exactly
Once the keeper puts the ball down he can't pick it up again.
What happened to the six second rule? Is it still technically there? I haven't seen it applied in years.
I'd have a defender stand literally an inch away and just bounce it off his head. No need for an aerial challenge.
Genius.I've just spend ten minutes picturing us doing this in my head.
It's still the best I've seen us play all season.
It's still the best I've seen us play all season.
He can if he puts the ball in play by nudging it a couple of inches.
It's a fool proof plan I tells ya.
This thread reminds me of an instance (between 06-08 I think) when Giggs took a throw in and bounced the ball off an United player's back, right in front of him, to gain easy possession. Remember thinking it was a pretty smart move back then.
Yeap. I also vaguely recall reading somewhere that stooping to head a ball that is on the ground back to the keeper can also be called for unsportsman like conduct.
We should play with three goalies. So De Gea in the middle, who can use his hands, Valdez and Lindegaard either side of him who can only dive with their face or feet, but they won't have to cover as much distance so that's okay. This allows us to skim on defence and play with 5 up front. 3 - 2 - 1 - 3 - 2
Valdez - De Gea - Lindegaard
Smalling - Rojo
Carrick
Di Maria - Blind/Herrera/Frollaini - Young
Van Persie - Rooney
Valdez - De Gea - Lindegaard
Smalling - Rojo
Carrick
Di Maria - Blind/Herrera/Frollaini - Young
Van Persie - Rooney
Why not just sign a morbidly obese goalkeeper to cover the goal?
Someone else has to touch it before he can pick it up again.
I never understood why teams couldn't just boot the ball up the field to give the other team a throw-on near their own goal, try and knick it there and score. Saves bothering with all that football stuff.
I expect everyone has pointed out the many flaws to this
One it's stupid. You don't mess around knocking the ball around in your own area like that.
Opponents aren't going to just watch you do this for 20mins. They'll all get in really close, and either beat your tall defender, as no one is unbeatable in the air, or simply foul the player so the ball has to restart with a free kick.
Also, even if your man wins every header, under pressure he won't perfectly place it in your keeper's hands.
It's get like the times people try and hold the ball in the corners. It never lasts for more than 10seconds for similar reasons to above.
You often see goalies rolling the ball in their area. Don't you?
Loads of teams play percentage football, which while not quite as you word it, revolves around punting long balls into dangerous areas, on the chance that it'll either drop handily for another player, that they'll win the second ball, or that they'll win a free kick.
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