If there was a prize for the most drivel ever contained in a single post, the OP certainly takes it.Is there a prize for making the longest thread title?
If there was a prize for the most drivel ever contained in a single post, the OP certainly takes it.Is there a prize for making the longest thread title?
If there was a prize for the most drivel ever contained in a single post, the OP certainly takes it.
Yay we got our first insult.Nah, he's a dick
I get you mate, it’s easy to get carried away; I’m sure at some point I’d have done it on here.Personal is probably the wrong word, to be fair.
I actually did it myself with my 'personal disliking' comment above
Some of the stuff written about him is way overboard, sure, but that's just fans staying true to their nature.
Fanatical indeed.Nah, he's a dick
Herrera did this a few years ago & was given a farewell video with a thread on here that was truly cringeworthy.They're leeching on us if he doesn't renew. Raiola sees a big agent fee coming if he just runs down his contract and PSG uses the transfer fee they could give this year to Raiola and Pogba instead.
We probably wont just place him on the bench for a season, so other players seeing this is an opportunity to act this way at United could be damaging to team morale.
It creates a situation where other players see this as a normal way of acting and it's poisonous as players lose focus due to this + it creates bad negotiation situations with the new replacement player that has to replace a player like Pogba.
Basically we're losing more money than just on Pogba by running down his contract. Investment-wise, this is a terrible case for buying Raiola players.
And this is based on what?No, not a ‘personal disliking’. We don’t know him personally.
The issue I’ve had with a number of Pogba posts on here is they discuss him as if they do know him. We see him a maximum of 2 times a week for 90 minutes & read/watch some heavily edited interviews from time to time. That isn’t a reason to call him some of the things he is on here.
Is him running down his contract infuriating, I suppose but if we rated him that highly as a club we should have offered him terms years ago. The clubs mismanagement is being ignored in this one.
No disputing that at all - point being it doesn't mean the fans need to feel Ok about it.Yes, and United will do what's okay for them. It's the way the world works.
What emotional nonsense.It's not. We should give him an ultimatum and if he's not sure he decide while sitting in the stands for the next year
This is barely believable, but sadly it does show the state of the game today.the context:
back in the summer of 2016, Pogba had all of world footballing in the palm of his hands. He was as exuberant of a player as he was a character being 1 of a kind. What did he do? He decides to go back to his academy days club despite it being poorly run from top to bottom. Long gone are the glory days but he was promised there would be a project built around him to make his decision of joining worthwhile. For the first 3 odd seasons, the club wasn’t able to hold up their end of the bargain for what they wished to Paul. At the same time, he was playing through injuries, frustrations of being let down of those promises, being made the scapegoat for all the teams lack of successes while also being held captive in the sense the team would not sell him even when he did portray he was not enjoying his time. Virtually had no teammates close to his level/ceiling so imagine how that feels, a supposed project yet being left stranded as a player who simply cannot do it all by himself.
Then comes in Ole. Pogba having had over 2 years under him, the rotten stench inside the club is slowly uprooted and a proper vision is laid into motion. It progresses but slowly in due time. From being the stand alone star player bar De Gea for a number of seasons to now being surrounded with the likes of other such stars in Bruno, Cavani, Shaw, Maguire, Varane, AWB, Rashford, Sancho.
…point being, it took Pogba over half the duration of his contract when he signed back with United to start seeing any sort of sustainable progress / those promises. So him being unhappy in certain moments - is it really that far fetched to see why? And it leaves a great dilemma that he will have to a give a big think over, now that steam has picked up and the progress in clear backing of the right kinds of players is there to be seen for all.
he was football’s brightest young star when he left Juventus. He was left disappointed from United’s end for 3 years. The last 2 they have been making amends by becoming stronger. And now in the final season of his contract, he truly has a situation on his hands that no one can honestly blame whichever direction he chooses to go. Maybe he has a sour taste in his mouth from the early years and wants out, maybe he appreciates the recent efforts but still feels it’s too little too late, or maybe he even changes his mind as the year plays out and decides the work done has won him back over.
in any scenario, let’s please stop vilifying the man and at the minimum see the human element to it all. The roller coaster of emotions and such is quite literally what any normal person would think so let’s not pretend to be shocked in any way. I for one will be glad whatever he decides to do and have been able to appreciate his efforts having stuck around all this time
And what does that achieve?It's not. We should give him an ultimatum and if he's not sure he decide while sitting in the stands for the next year
Woodward:It's not. We should give him an ultimatum and if he's not sure he decide while sitting in the stands for the next year
So let’s say we offered him a contract 3 years ago, then 2 years ago & last year for him not to sign those, why would we suddenly believe he’d sign one now? That would infact be naive from the club, no.And this is based on what?
You think this is the first time we offered him a contract extension?
Sorry but I think it's utterly naive to think we didn't do that in previous years, especially when he was more important for us than he is now.
The only reason why it was reported last week he declined to sign a new deal is because somebody decided to make it public, most likely from the club side but can be both.
It's very likely the same situation happened last year, but the club kept quiet.
I personally think he will renew, hence I'm more inclined to speak with optimism. Come end of the season and he leaves on a free, I definitely will feel pissed off by it.Also, supporting a player that chooses to run down his contract and leave on a free is just wrong on every level.
Are we United or Pogba fans?
I wouldn't know twosheds about where to start honestly.How do you uproot a stench?
Agreed, also doesn't mean they have to insult, and suggest he should not be treated as a human.No disputing that at all - point being it doesn't mean the fans need to feel Ok about it.
This. Neither club nor player have done anything wrong or unprofessional the whole time he's been here. His agent has spoken out of turn a couple of times, as he is famous for doing, but only fans get so worked up about these things.Both parties are well within their legal rights to choose to do what they've chosen to do. Both are likely to act professionally (United won't throw him into the reserves, Pogba won't refuse to play).
It's only the football fans that get their knickers in a twist.
Have you been to a circus before? Genuinely interested.Oh boo fecking hoo. Can we please stop talking about this simple oaf? The man got offered an obscene amount of money and decided to apply his circus act in Manchester.
It did obviously not work out, mainly because his heart just isn’t in it. And now he wants to try it somewhere else, but no one in their right mind would pay the money he wants + the transfer fee. Especially not in these times.
So the man is stuck where he is, and will just run his contract down and take his chances next summer. End of story.
You sound more like a Glazers fan actually, as you're so concerned with making sure they get their millions.Also, supporting a player that chooses to run down his contract and leave on a free is just wrong on every level.
Are we United or Pogba fans?
You said "we should've offered him a deal years ago", without any evidence and against all logic so stop patronizing me.So let’s say we offered him a contract 3 years ago, then 2 years ago & last year for him not to sign those, why would we suddenly believe he’d sign one now? That would infact be naive from the club, no.
No need to be sorry lad, your post is proof of mismanagement - if [as you assume] he’s been offered terms & turned them down previously why is he, A) still at the club, B) why has he not been replaced?
‘It’s very likely’, ‘you think’, what an utter sham of a post. If your assumptions are true, the mismanagement is in letting this occur again; Herrera did the same thing a few summers ago! Which would show the club has not learnt their lesson.
Agree with much of this. Football fans don't think like business people but having Pogba for an extra year is a short-term gain that seems to indicate the board would like to use him for a direct title push this year. Cashing in on him would indicate the opposite - a season of transition.You sound more like a Glazers fan actually, as you're so concerned with making sure they get their millions.
Do you not understand that the club is a business?
When Pogba and his agent do business with Man Utd, they aren't dealing with the fans, they're dealing with business people who care much less about the fans.
He's entitled to put his career and interests first. You, being a fan may not like it but it's really not something that should concern you.
I would have thought the fans would simply be happy to have a good player for one more season, instead if getting so bent out of shape over 45 million.
If losing a potential 45 million in income meant finally having a world class first team competing at the highest levels wouldn't that be a piece you would be happy to pay?
All of this ignores the fact there have been no offers. So what's the guarantee that he can move for that 45 million next year??
Exactly this. To be honest with you what annoys me most about this whole sage is when people say we didn't do enough as a club to support him.It is perfectly ok for Pogba to take his time. I genuinely have no hard feelings about that. It is his career, and it is his right. As a fan of the club, I am disappointed that he did not fulfil his potential with us, but it is what it is.
I personally think that if he does not sign the contract extension, we should be looking to sell him and sign a replacement. The player looks after his own interest, and the club needs to look after its own interests.
You replied by saying it was naive to think we hadn’t, ‘without any evidence’ but have at it mate, you’re doing a stellar job debunking your own post.You said "we should've offered him a deal years ago", without any evidence and against all logic so stop patronizing me.
Is that really ground breaking?The Athletic made a good point in their article this week that maybe whether Pogba plays well or not is more down to whether he is motivated rather than who plays alongside him.
No, I don't think he should be insulted and mistreated (if anyone is saying that). It's Ok for fans to feel disappointed thoughAgreed, also doesn't mean they have to insult, and suggest he should not be treated as a human.
But hey, I hear that's suppose to be what fans do. Guess I'm not a fan then
This is getting beyond ridiculous. The mental leaps people will take to defend the indefensible never ceases to amaze.You sound more like a Glazers fan actually, as you're so concerned with making sure they get their millions.
Do you not understand that the club is a business?
When Pogba and his agent do business with Man Utd, they aren't dealing with the fans, they're dealing with business people who care much less about the fans.
He's entitled to put his career and interests first. You, being a fan may not like it but it's really not something that should concern you.
I would have thought the fans would simply be happy to have a good player for one more season, instead if getting so bent out of shape over 45 million.
If losing a potential 45 million in income meant finally having a world class first team competing at the highest levels wouldn't that be a piece you would be happy to pay?
All of this ignores the fact there have been no offers. So what's the guarantee that he can move for that 45 million next year??