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Would it be more significant than say Arsenal winning the title if it actually happened?
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No.Would it be more significant than say Arsenal winning the title if it actually happened?
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I think so too. Second most consecutive seasons in top flight football too.Not in terms of this season but in terms of English football, perhaps. New stadium on the horizon, one of the most succesful clubs in the history of England, the loss of the Merseyside derby, possible further dark times ahead. I do think it is more significant and impactful to the club and PL for us going down compared to when Newcastle and Villa did purely because of the surrounding narratives.
No. Arsenal winning and/or the goalrecord destroyed would be more significant.Would it be more significant than say Arsenal winning the title if it actually happened?
Most people outside England will barely take notice. Everton have a rich history, sure, but they've been a mid-table side throughout football's global explosion.It'll be shocking sure, for English citizen.
To us outside of Europe however see this as entertainment.
Exactly, the media (as always) will define the narrative and Arsenal potentially winning the title with a former Pep disciple having taking a few deemed unwanted City players to finally disrupt the recent top 2 teams in the PL is way better a narrative to play on.Arsenal's probable success will be
Nah I don't think many people would have been shocked at the prospect of Everton going down at the start of the season for a variety of reasons (ownership, management, losing Richarlison etc) but a lot of people would have laughed at anyone suggesting Arsenal to win the title (Just check out the Arsenal/ Arteta threads).Would it be more significant than say Arsenal winning the title if it actually happened?
I think Everton fall into that story of Brighton qualifying for Europe, Brentford doing well and Arsenal winning the league. They are all part of the same story of clubs who are structured well and clubs that most certainly are not. The future of football is having a DoF, Technical director, manager and owner/chairman that all follow the same page and ethos of a club.I wouldn’t have thought so given they only just escaped last season. Arsenal winning the league could also be framed in terms of Liverpool and City having disappointing seasons too. The story of the season could be Brighton or Fulham qualifying for Europe?
I think the problem is that we don't really know what is going on with recruitment pre-Thelwell (even with him) because there are conflicting reports between what DoFs wanted, what managers wanted and what Moshiri wanted. It seems like some players are being signed by Moshiri, some by the DoF and some by the manager which is a chaotic and stupid way to run a football club. Recent cases of this are getting rid of Digne because Benitez didn't like him and sacking him weeks later. Brands wanting Dumfries/Livramento but Benitez rejected them. Brands suggested Diaz (at Liverpool now) when he was at Porto and we rejected that for Rodriguez/Ancelotti before getting rid of Rodriguez the next summer because he isn't a Benitez player. Godfrey signed under Ancelotti who didn't know anything about him and said it was a club signing while also being asked about Garbutt at the club and not knowing who he is. It's funny at the time but embarassing to not have the connectivity throughout the club and knowing what's going on. It's just a mess.If Im the head of Everton recruiting and they go down, I am not mentioning that job anywhere on my resume going forward. In fact Id just pretend I never worked there today. That squad should not be doing THAT poorly
Not if they manage to sustain this form and become the third club to reach 100 points (or was it 99 points).Would it be more significant than say Arsenal winning the title if it actually happened?
Indeed. Everton have spent 120/124 seasons in the top flight. Lot of people won't care but that's a big story in its own right in the history of English football.Not in terms of this season but in terms of English football, perhaps. New stadium on the horizon, one of the most succesful clubs in the history of England, the loss of the Merseyside derby, possible further dark times ahead. I do think it is more significant and impactful to the club and PL for us going down compared to when Newcastle and Villa did purely because of the surrounding narratives.
Potentially Everton v Plymouth in the league next year for the first time since 1954
West ham have been down a few times tbf. It's kinda expected.There’s nothing in it yet. They could be out of the bottom 3 with just 1 win What about if west ham or wolves go down? Which is still a possibility, they’ve established them selves in the prem and they both have decent teams and players that some of the top 6 in the prem may be interested in.
I know but the point was there only 3 points from 14th, so anyone from Leicester can still go down. Everton’s squad is a lot worse than the likes of West Ham/wolves and Leicester aswell. If Everton go down, there wouldn’t be any played I’d want from there team, West Ham and wolves have a few decent players that could move to a top prem team.West ham have been down a few times tbf. It's kinda expected.
Wolves I don't think anyone gives a single feck about.
Meh, I don't think that's too interesting story wise.I know but the point was there only 3 points from 14th, so anyone from Leicester can still go down. Everton’s squad is a lot worse than the likes of West Ham/wolves and Leicester aswell. If Everton go down, there wouldn’t be any played I’d want from there team, West Ham and wolves have a few decent players that could move to a top prem team.