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To quote a Sunderland fan when Moyes was in the process of sinking them too. I hope both Moyes ears turn into arse holes and he shits all over his own shoulders.
To quote a Sunderland fan when Moyes was in the process of sinking them too. I hope both Moyes ears turn into arse holes and he shits all over his own shoulders.
When your first signing is Marouane Fellaini, you lose those privileges.Only manager post SAF that didn't get to overhaul the squad...
100%The day we employed Moyes was the day we turned into the joke we are...
Agreed, axing fergies coaching staff was a huge mistake. Trying to bring in Everton training methods and disregarding the training methods that had proved so successful was another.I’ve always thought he doomed himself by axing SAF’s coaching staff. One of my best mates, who is an Everton fan, was quite surprised that we actually hired him as he and a few of his own Everton supporting mates were hoping to get rid of Moyes as early as 2010 because the stagnation was setting in.
You absolutely can. But if your conclusion isn't that Moyes was never going to be good enough for Manchester United, then you're simply wrong.You can't expect any kind of logical discussion when it comes to Moyes. I've tried several times.
Why not bring up the 5-0 against Leverkusen? We can all cherry pick games.81 crosses against Fulham. 81. Untenable.
This says it all!Moyes was out of his depth at Utd.
I mean...in all fairness...we created loads of half-chances from those crosses!81 crosses against Fulham. 81. Untenable.
It is not cherry picking. That kind of game was embodiment of moyes' career as united manager.Why not bring up the 5-0 against Leverkusen? We can all cherry pick games.
Of course you create half chances here and there when you lump 81 crosses for full 90 minutes in the box hopelessly hoping your team member would connect.I mean...in all fairness...we created loads of half-chances from those crosses!
It's never really a tactic I want to see United rely on but I do think sometimes if you have the opportunity to put the ball into the box first time you should take it. The crosses I don't like to see are when a player takes two/three touches and crosses from a static position. That's bread and butter for a PL defence to deal with.
Ofcourse he would have.He would have crippled us for years to come....He was clearly not cut out to manage a club like UnitedYou look at what he’s doing with West Ham now. If we had stuck with him rather than getting rid I think we’d now be in a much better position than we currently are. Which granted wouldn’t be difficult because we are fecking dreadful.
I agree but my point was that crosses are a viable method for creating chances and we need to be careful we don't eradicate them from our game completely. United teams under SAF always had that goal threat from crosses and it's a good way of making sure teams don't drop too deep.Of course you create half chances here and there when you lump 81 crosses for full 90 minutes in the box hopelessly hoping your team member would connect.
But chances, scoring or even winning is not a point. It just shows moyes was clueless, out of depth at this level. That is not how united supposed to play football. That is the point.
Don’t worry, I will remind you when nominations are up.What a car crash of a thread FFS
One to be added for worst thread of the year in December .
He made fundamental mistakes.You look at what he’s doing with West Ham now. If we had stuck with him rather than getting rid I think we’d now be in a much better position than we currently are. Which granted wouldn’t be difficult because we are fecking dreadful.
Giggs is a wife beating scumbag though.He made fundamental mistakes.
The first one being his blind loyalty to his staff at Everton and promoting then over Sir Alex's backroom staff who were proven winners of Premierships and cups. He bought one player and he too was from his former club. A above average player and not a world-class player, the type United buy. Moyes managed average clubs and made them better and managed United, one of the top clubs in the world, like an average club.
Giggs would probably have been a better manager. He understood United better.
Woodward went after the players Moyes wanted almost all summer, they weren't Woodwards targets. It was only after 2 months of dithering that the club decided to step in and tried to sign DeRossi, Khedira, Herrera, Coentrao etc. in a desperate deadline day scatter gun approach to at least get someone in. We signed Fellaini for £5m for than we could have simply because Moyes wanted to sign a bigger name 1st and then Fellaini 2nd.Agreed, axing fergies coaching staff was a huge mistake. Trying to bring in Everton training methods and disregarding the training methods that had proved so successful was another.
He is painstakingly slow over deciding on whether to move for a player, of which there are numerous stories at everton. Also he didnt sign off on the Thiago deal, which by thiago's own admission was done under fergie. Allegedly fergie had a double deal lined up with benfica for that summer which fell through when moyes arrived.
Got seduced by woodwards delusions that we could nab Fabregas and Bale that summer. Maybe if Gill had stayed on then Moyes first few signings would have been different.
In the end, the club made a mistake allowing fergie a say in his successor. Fergie made a mistake in believing a fellow scotsman could take over the reigns.
Moyes was out of his depth at Utd.
That's a different matter. Besides, he wouldn't have got the Welsh job if there was any really substance to that story.Giggs is a wife beating scumbag though.
Dreadful? We're 2nd and have clear areas where we know we need to improve. If this is dreadful, what do you make of the previous 6-7 years?You look at what he’s doing with West Ham now. If we had stuck with him rather than getting rid I think we’d now be in a much better position than we currently are. Which granted wouldn’t be difficult because we are fecking dreadful.
Did Fellaini, his star signing and one who he knew how to utilize effectively, play in this game ?81 crosses against Fulham. 81. Untenable.
This thread should be kept alive, as a reminder to us all that if we forget history, we will be bound to repeat it.Moyes has one good season with West ham after years of absolute stinking failure and single handedly collapsing the notion of United as a team to fear and Old Trafford as a place to fear. Every single manager since has been picking up the pieces of the destruction of the club.
Delete this car crash thread.