Steven Seagull
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Yes. Would improve our off the ball movement and pressing game massively. He'd still need to buy 2-3 quality attackers though to implement his style
Not this again.I rate Pepinho as much as i rate Giggs. He has had amazing teams in leagues where the rest of the clubs are either feeders or non-threatening.
No white text?I rate Pepinho as much as i rate Giggs. He has had amazing teams in leagues where the rest of the clubs are either feeders or non-threatening.
Yup, got to agree that we fed his Barcelona team in the CL finals pretty well.I rate Pepinho as much as i rate Giggs. He has had amazing teams in leagues where the rest of the clubs are either feeders or non-threatening.
Who is we? This is just a hypothetical on a fan forum, is hardly like the people who matter in taking these decisions are thinking along this line. And I assume people on here have more than one brain cell, so they can support Van Gaal and for a few seconds, give this imaginary situation some thought.I don't like the question.
We should be focusing our mental energy on what the current manager and players can do to continue the improvement in our play and accomplish more this season than last season, setting us up nicely for a treble run next season.
I disagree with that, our current manager's contract ends in 18 months and we should concentrate an important part of our energy to what we will do at the end of his contract or before.I don't like the question.
We should be focusing our mental energy on what the current manager and players can do to continue the improvement in our play and accomplish more this season than last season, setting us up nicely for a treble run next season.
This, I feel that not going after Guardiola would equate to prioritize the short term over the medium term.Yes. Of course. LvG has only one or two more seasons before he wants to retire anyways and Pep could be here for at least 3-4 years depending on how long he wants to stay and 3-4 years seems to be usually the case.
This.If the choice is ousting LVG for Pep in the summer or missing out on Pep so we can prime Giggs for the role the following year... I say go for Pep.
...and that comes from one of LVG's biggest supporters on here.
Yep. Especially when combined with vigorous pressing to win the ball back early, defenders comfortable enough in possession not to give the ball way and a defensive five quick and perceptive enough to defend on the half way line.It's kinda hard for a Guardiola team to concede when they've always got the ball.
I agree with this. If there is an opportunity to get Pep at the end of the season then we should take it (and thats a big if), and thank LVG for his service.Yes, but only if Pep joining United was a certainty (like the arrangement Bayern had with him, before Heyneckes' contract wasn't renewed). I'd feel compelled to let Van Gaal go just from a qualitative standpoint, cruel and machiavellian as that may sound. Same goes for Ancelotti. Strictly professional decision mind, but I feel Guardiola and Ancelotti could take us to a level Louis can't, they both have won titles more recently, and have evidenced the ability to take over clubs in relative transition, especially when there's money to spare.
Same here, because it will result in an unending cycle of sacking; it is setting bad precedent. Being better is always a snapshot in time, who knows how things are in a year. As much as I like Pep, saying he is 'better' is still for discussion and if he is better here is even more of a gamble. I rate and like Pep, but that Barca team was full of enormous talent, he shaped them nicely but with Messi, a shiteload of cash and a very good generation at La Masia everything gets so much easier. Then he went to Bayern and with all due respect the way Heynckes left it even a donkey could win the league over there. The financial disparity between Bayern en the rest of the Bundesliga is uncanning, they just stripped their fiercest competitor of all their stars to let them partially warm the bench ffs. That has little to do with Pep being the best, rather the way Bayern was run the past decade. Still Pep has to show he can do it in Europe this season with Bayern, if he gets booted out again in the quarter or semi of the CL he actually did worse than his two predecessors. The point I am trying to make is the Manchester United job is much more demanding than he is used to and there is no certainty he will perform as he did at Barca. A club should fire their coach if confidence is lost, he does not meet the objectives or there are clearly way more competent managers on the market. Otherwise let the manager do his job, that vicious cycle of changing managers on the go is very damaging to a club on the long term.No, not unless van Gaal fails to achieve his objectives. As much as I don't like the football under him, sacking a manager just because a better one is available would be a move I'd hate to see my club do.
Why? Maybe he could maybe he couldn't. Pep does not guarantee great football and great results immediately. It's his third year at Bayern and it's hardly been perfect up to now. They've played some very dull football at times in the previous two seasons. He's had his fair share of doubters, as well, and he'd arguably have an even harder time at United than Bayern.I don't see why not. How is sacking a manager to get a significantly better one wrong? We do the exact same thing when we buy and sell players. If we had
Personally I find it hard to believe that Guardiola couldn't achieve the same results and better than LVG is currently getting while playing more attractive, exciting football.
Only when a player fails to perform. No one gets rid of a player that's doing what's asked of them.I don't see why not. How is sacking a manager to get a significantly better one wrong? We do the exact same thing when we buy and sell players. If we had
Personally I find it hard to believe that Guardiola couldn't achieve the same results and better than LVG is currently getting while playing more attractive, exciting football.
Yeah you do, if a better player in the same position becomes available you absolutely do.Only when a player fails to perform. No one gets rid of a player that's doing what's asked of them.
Indeed.Keep Louis, he has us on the right track... Don't whore yourself out and pull your pants down at the first stud that comes along and looks at you, we have more class than that, thats a chelsea type move.
Lets keep our dignity and honor the commitment we have made, also it sets a terrible precedent for the players and future managers that our managers are now dispensable in that manner.