That defeat isn't on the manager. We missed numerous clear chances then the defence fell asleep for a really sloppy winning goal. The players let him down tonight, even though we dominated the game. We just needed better finishing. We are improving with Ole; we just aren't yet the finished article.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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And if you can say anything about Barcelona from the last few years it's that they know a great manager when they see one.
Sorry don't understand the point you're trying to make.
Regarding moving Martial out wide, personally dont think moving our top scorer out wide is the best idea where he'll be wasted tracking back. All our good stuff tonight came through Martial playing through the middle. We just didn't take our chances.
At the end of the day we have zero game changes off the bench. Rashford was really bad tonight but ighalo isn't the answer. Its all on Woodward/Glazers now, let's see if they have any sporting ambition.
We do a good job of that without bringing people off the bench.
Ighalo was, I think, our leading goalscorer in this comp. pre lockdown? And Mata is still under-rated by some despite good performances this season when given the chance - was linking up beautifully with Bruno at the beginning of the year, and had a couple of MoMs to boot. He changed the game on Monday night, and for Ole not to use him, or Ighalo when we needed a goal, wasis beyond my comprehension. I love Rashford, but he's been garbage since the restart. I've always supported Ole - as a player and as a manager - but not attempting to change things tonight is mystifying.
No one is going on about James. Mata and Ighalo are the ones who should have come on. We needed to go for broke so should have overloaded with what we had.
Let’s be honest. We’re the 3rd or 4th best in the Premier League and we just lost to the 3rd or 4th best in Spain in a one off semi final, which most people would say was underserved.
Ole is still learning too I’m sure, he’s going to make mistakes. Pep with all his experience just lost a one off game to a team that finished 7th in a much worse league than La Liga.
Ole is still learning too I’m sure, he’s going to make mistakes. Pep with all his experience just lost a one off game to a team that finished 7th in a much worse league than La Liga.
Corrected for you.
He needs to go - he's not going to cut it.
It’s on the players right, so why keep them on the pitch if they are under performing?Clearly watching a different game. They created nothing apart from two gifted goals. We created by far, more than enough to kill this game by the '60-70 marker' This is on the players. Calling for Oles head after one unlucky game is a joke tbh!
12 now! So fickle
Pretty much. I cannot believe people are arguing that Ole was right not to make subs. Bizarre.
Fully agree with all of this. People are acting like we will suddenly sign 11 players for the squad next season, we won’t so the majority of these players will remain.
I don't know why this thread is even open. Maybe re open it in November or December but having it open now doesn't make one sense. Can some admin do their job and close this thread.
And yet we were by far the better team tonight.
We won't win the league with Ole.
We also won't win it with Pochettino, so I'm not sure why he's being touted as a potential replacement.
We also won't win it with Pochettino, so I'm not sure why he's being touted as a potential replacement.
And yet, we lost.
Didn't think of that and apparently neither did Ole. Strange since Ighalo was good enough to extend his pricey loan to January.
Agree it’s just so frustrating knowing we were the better team.
Well, first of all, point to where I said we were guaranteed trophies with Poch?
Secondly, you're telling me if Spurs won the league, or the CL, it would have been 'expected'. The bookies ever had them close to being favourites to win it? Not a chance.
As for Kane, how many pundits and fans alike have said he'd need to leave to win trophies. It's obvious spurs were always going to offer something, but always come up short. They never had the financial backing to challenge these sides.
And nah, don't know many Tottenham fans, and sure they'd like to win a trophy, we all do, but ultimately at the end of the season if they could pick an FA cup or a top place finish, the majority would go for the champions league football, just like the majority of our fans
Ole has spend near 200m this season, and we finished on exactly the same amount of points as we did last year...
are there actually people that think we should sack ole
does it bother you at all is barce appoint koeman? does that make you wonder if we should have a plan before doing the sacking thing?
does it bother you at all is barce appoint koeman? does that make you wonder if we should have a plan before doing the sacking thing?
Welcome to football.
Oh I see, but Solskjaer is being judged by completely different standards? Gotcha.
Brilliant.This.
going to the next season with this guy at the elm. tough
have to admit , totally on the fence, sack now or give him the time, I just dont know.
So we're just going to act like Ibra isn't one of the most wasteful strikers we've had in recent times?
This is as good as its going to get with this team lads. But I like how everyone wants Ole gone now
He actually didn’t do anything wrong in this game.
He actually didn’t do anything wrong in this game.
Legit, Ibra was so wasteful for us, as good as he was.
As a neutral I agree. Don't think the Sevilla loss can be put on Ole.This is as good as its going to get with this team lads. But I like how everyone wants Ole gone now
He actually didn’t do anything wrong in this game.
Wasn't a fan of his substitutions and the timing of them though.
Especially when the rest of the team is not expected (able?) to do sh*t in attack, but we deserved to win today and it is wrong to call for him being sacked just because losing for Seville. My issue with OGS is the lack of ability to keep possession and having a functioning passing pattern and understanding in the team. Not a fan of his transfers in either, but what I do like is that most of the players look happy and willing to work hard. So his man management is more than good enough... It is more on the footballing side I have some issues.
As long as we do not go into next season with Williams, Shaw and AWB as our main fullback options then I will be happy. And Laird does not count as one of these.
Sorry, thats rubbish. We were a better team on Monday after subs were made.
29 goals in three quarters of season. I'll take that any day of the week.
Same. The subs should have been made way earlier. But the guys on the pitch bottled it today. Again in key moments.
Well isn't that the whole point of changing the manager? How long would Poch get before you start saying he has to go? You also need to speak to more Spurs fans, mate.
Pretty sure we have been over this like one comment ago?
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Would be harsh to sack him after finishing 3rd, but again I don’t see us going any further with him unfortunately.
Take a chance on a promising coach? I’d be tempted to tbh.
Take a chance on a promising coach? I’d be tempted to tbh.
Sorry, I had a seizure reading that. Mind repeating it?
Who would you recommend. Poch is a top tier manager. So why not go to the next level?
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