Arsenal legend and has been only in the league for a couple of months, so too early to judge.
Would you take Graham Potter at United?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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He's certainly not at the top of my list, but I'd be willing to give him a go personally. Probably even ahead of Conte (#1 is Ten Hag & #2 is Zidane).
That performance should make it clear why he is so highly rated. Who knows what he would be able to achieve with a better squad.
Would easily take him above Rodgers, but easily below Conte too. Conte is the lowest risk with our current squad for the immediate 2-3 years. After that... we'll figure it out and see how it goes with Conte. Just need the board to stop looking at a manager as a "hopefully 10+ year appointment".
We should not take a risky option right now. We need to get back to the top and then we can look at Potter if he is still punching above his weight. Right now it's 50-50 (and I am being generous here) with whether it would work for him here. The players have massive egos and it won't be easy to take instructions from someone who has not proven anything yet at this level.
He wouldn’t come. He’s too smart and isn’t going to want to work with the Glazers knowing he’ll get no money to spend on the squad - would be better off waiting for Newcastle/City/Chelsea offer.
I think these polls are a little skewed at the mo by the massively diminished faith in Ole and the desire for a change. I like Potter...his sides play attractive football, seem well coached and we'll organised. They've tended to be a bit leaky, if memory serves, but he's done really well with them on not much money.
That's my take as well. Potter above Rodgers but Conte is a decision which should be least risky and best right now to allow us to jump right back into the fray.
It would b a huge huge gamble. He's never managed any elite player in his career. For all we know this is his level.
Not sure the players would respect him with him being a complete nobody who has never won anything.
Not sure the players would respect him with him being a complete nobody who has never won anything.
Surprised Spurs didn't go for him in the summer, to be honest. Much better option for them than Nuno. And yes, I am aware of how easily that comment could blow up in my face in the next 2 hours!
All you people who keep saying how we spend no money, look at the players we've brought in!!
We're possibly even equal with City now over the last 8 years for goodness sake!
G Potts 
I'm not convinced by any of the viable alternatives, so my preference is to leave Ole in his position until there's a strong option. However of the names getting thrown around, I'd be more interested in the club going for a left field up and coming manager like Potter.
Yes, of course.
Can see Spurs making the move for him once they get fed up of Nuno.
Probably too much of a gamble for us, although given how things are atm, I personally wouldn’t complain if he ended up here before 2022.
Probably too much of a gamble for us, although given how things are atm, I personally wouldn’t complain if he ended up here before 2022.
That's my view as well. I love what he's done at Brighton and be interesting to see how he does when managing a bigger club.
Not to mention the added pressure he'll have at United, which is a massive thing. Not saying he doesn't face pressure at Brighton, but this would be on another level.
Potter gets a draw at anfield while playing good football, yet he's not good enough to our manager?
This is a big problem with united fans. They only want big names, not a manager that actually does a good job.
This is a big problem with united fans. They only want big names, not a manager that actually does a good job.
Let him do a job at Spurs or Everton, keep a close eye on him there. And if Conte leaves in 2-3 years time and Potter impresses, get him. It's that simple. To get him right now in our tragic situation would be bonkers.
No guarantee he would be willing to leave after doing well at Spurs/Everton. There is also the possibility City go for him before we get another chance.
The biggest argument against Conte is that our squad absolutely doesn’t match Conte’s preferred formation. Out of the big names mentioned, Conte is the highest short-term risk before he has a chance to sign at least 3 players.
There's no guarantees for anything, even him coming right now.
None of the clubs he took over matched his formation. Furthermore, Conte isn't rigid on the formation. He usually plays depending on the strength of his players.
I'll take him over Rodgers. With our current squad and dressing room though, he would step in a lion's den, can be a spectacular debacle.
Like the way he sets his sides up, their expected data was fantastic last season, 3rd for xg against and 5th for X points.
Would be my 3rd choice behind Ten Hag and Conte.
Would be my 3rd choice behind Ten Hag and Conte.
Italian managers are tailors, they adapt to what they got.
Oh, I agree. I would prefer Conte now and if he doesn't work, go for Potter.
My point was more simplistic that I don't see Potter doing worse, just because he doesn't have the gravitas or other such nonsense.
If anything I think our players suit Conte more than a manager like Ten Hag/Potter/Rodgers. Those managers need time to implement their style, you want them to implement a high press and cohesive style and the defending in styles like that takes a lot longer to sort out as it's a harder system to learn without getting torn up. For Conte, he knows how to tighten up a defence quickly while working on the pressing aspect over time. Whoever the manager is will need a revamp of the midfield anyway, but I think Conte is far more adaptable to the players he have while the others need to build their whole squad around their specific needs of players.
It's probably because Brighton play really good football relative to their level/resources. That and the death of good British/ English managers.
No, same as Rodgers, not proven at all.
Conte or Ten Hag, but the board won't go for either I'm guessing.
Conte or Ten Hag, but the board won't go for either I'm guessing.
People keep saying the glazers spend no money. What world are you living in? The issue for the last few years has not been spending money, it's been spending it badly
Ten Hag is just as unproven as Rodgers
He is an unquestionably good coach. You just need to watch Brighton play a couple of times and it becomes apparent that they're an exceptionally well-coached team who are far more than the sum of their parts.
What you can question though is how good he is as a manager. It's one thing to get Maupay and Lallana to do exactly what you tell them, it's another trying to get Bruno and Ronaldo and Rashford and Pogba to follow your orders.
Think this would be one move too soon, both for him and United. The fallout is just too risky if it doesn't work out.
Think he's a much better fit for Spurs.
What you can question though is how good he is as a manager. It's one thing to get Maupay and Lallana to do exactly what you tell them, it's another trying to get Bruno and Ronaldo and Rashford and Pogba to follow your orders.
Think this would be one move too soon, both for him and United. The fallout is just too risky if it doesn't work out.
Think he's a much better fit for Spurs.
On the proven winner thing what had Mancini or Enrique won pre City and Barca?
Point being you only see things from your perspective and you seem to think you have all the answers. Not sure what secret I'm supposed to divulge with you? But there ya go....
Where did you get that gem from?
I'd take Harry Potter or Ron Weasley at this point.
Only if Hermione is on the coaching staff, Harry was gormless by himself…
Can't be any worse than we have already
To add to your post, Antonio Conte had been sacked at Arrezo, then reinstated a year later where he was relegated with them. He was then appointed Bari Manager where he got them promoted from Serie B, which got him the Juve job. He got the Juve job because he was a ex player and Juve are known to give opportunities to up and coming Managers who are Italian.
Also forgot to add, Conte was also Atalanta Manager where he had a absolute disaster and had to be protected from the Atalanta fans and left the club in 19th before he quit the club. He then returned to Serie B with Siena and got them promoted and that was enough for him to get the job at Juve.
So Spurs will hire him on monday?
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