Idxomer
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Perhaps we should start a “Would you take Vieira?” thread.
Arsenal legend and has been only in the league for a couple of months, so too early to judge.
Perhaps we should start a “Would you take Vieira?” thread.
We should not take a risky option right now. We need to get back to the top and then we can look at Potter if he is still punching above his weight. Right now it's 50-50 (and I am being generous here) with whether it would work for him here. The players have massive egos and it won't be easy to take instructions from someone who has not proven anything yet at this level.Anyone saying this job is too big for him after enduring 3 years of that amateur in charge should seriously reconsider how difficult it is to coach a football team.
That's my take as well. Potter above Rodgers but Conte is a decision which should be least risky and best right now to allow us to jump right back into the fray.Would easily take him above Rodgers, but easily below Conte too. Conte is the lowest risk with our current squad for the immediate 2-3 years. After that... we'll figure it out and see how it goes with Conte. Just need the board to stop looking at a manager as a "hopefully 10+ year appointment".
Surprised Spurs didn't go for him in the summer, to be honest. Much better option for them than Nuno. And yes, I am aware of how easily that comment could blow up in my face in the next 2 hours!Yep.
Ideally you'd want to see him move to a team like Spurs or Leicester and see how he does there. See how comfortably he translates to a different team with better resources and slightly higher ambitions. Then if he did well there you'd actively target him.
But in the situation we're in he should at least be in the discussion now, even if only as third or fourth choice.
He wouldn’t come. He’s too smart and isn’t going to want to work with the Glazers knowing he’ll get no money to spend on the squad - would be better off waiting for Newcastle/City/Chelsea offer.
That's my view as well. I love what he's done at Brighton and be interesting to see how he does when managing a bigger club.It would b a huge huge gamble. He's never managed any elite player in his career. For all we know this is his level.
Not sure the players would respect him with him being a complete nobody who has never won anything.
No guarantee he would be willing to leave after doing well at Spurs/Everton. There is also the possibility City go for him before we get another chance.Let him do a job at Spurs or Everton, keep a close eye on him there. And if Conte leaves in 2-3 years time and Potter impresses, get him. It's that simple. To get him right now in our tragic situation would be bonkers.
The biggest argument against Conte is that our squad absolutely doesn’t match Conte’s preferred formation. Out of the big names mentioned, Conte is the highest short-term risk before he has a chance to sign at least 3 players.Conte is the lowest risk with our current squad for the immediate 2-3 years.
There's no guarantees for anything, even him coming right now.No guarantee he would be willing to leave after doing well at Spurs/Everton. There is also the possibility City go for him before we get another chance.
None of the clubs he took over matched his formation. Furthermore, Conte isn't rigid on the formation. He usually plays depending on the strength of his players.The biggest argument against Conte is that our squad absolutely doesn’t match Conte’s preferred formation. Out of the big names mentioned, Conte is the highest short-term risk before he has a chance to sign at least 3 players.
The biggest argument against Conte is that our squad absolutely doesn’t match Conte’s preferred formation. Out of the big names mentioned, Conte is the highest short-term risk before he has a chance to sign at least 3 players.
Oh, I agree. I would prefer Conte now and if he doesn't work, go for Potter.We should not take a risky option right now. We need to get back to the top and then we can look at Potter if he is still punching above his weight. Right now it's 50-50 (and I am being generous here) with whether it would work for him here. The players have massive egos and it won't be easy to take instructions from someone who has not proven anything yet at this level.
If anything I think our players suit Conte more than a manager like Ten Hag/Potter/Rodgers. Those managers need time to implement their style, you want them to implement a high press and cohesive style and the defending in styles like that takes a lot longer to sort out as it's a harder system to learn without getting torn up. For Conte, he knows how to tighten up a defence quickly while working on the pressing aspect over time. Whoever the manager is will need a revamp of the midfield anyway, but I think Conte is far more adaptable to the players he have while the others need to build their whole squad around their specific needs of players.The biggest argument against Conte is that our squad absolutely doesn’t match Conte’s preferred formation. Out of the big names mentioned, Conte is the highest short-term risk before he has a chance to sign at least 3 players.
It's probably because Brighton play really good football relative to their level/resources. That and the death of good British/ English managers.This Graham Potter obsession with some fans. Is it because Guardiola said he was the best English manager out there? It was an off the cuff remark. He was being polite. I wouldn't be surprised if our board offered him a 6 year deal on the back of a comment from Guardiola.
He wouldn’t come. He’s too smart and isn’t going to want to work with the Glazers knowing he’ll get no money to spend on the squad - would be better off waiting for Newcastle/City/Chelsea offer.
Ten Hag is just as unproven as RodgersNo, same as Rodgers, not proven at all.
Conte or Ten Hag, but the board won't go for either I'm guessing.
And? We could have challenged if an actual manager was appointed instead of Ole and given that 500 million. What even is your point here? Mou and LVG were the best appointments we could get at the time. That they failed has no bearing on the matter. If you have the ability to predict which manager would turn successful here and the next SAF, please share. Might as well go to the imbeciles on the board and divulge that secret, as a matter of fact.
He wouldn’t come. He’s too smart and isn’t going to want to work with the Glazers knowing he’ll get no money to spend on the squad - would be better off waiting for Newcastle/City/Chelsea offer.
I'd take Harry Potter or Ron Weasley at this point.
Only if Hermione is on the coaching staff, Harry was gormless by himself…
To add to your post, Antonio Conte had been sacked at Arrezo, then reinstated a year later where he was relegated with them. He was then appointed Bari Manager where he got them promoted from Serie B, which got him the Juve job. He got the Juve job because he was a ex player and Juve are known to give opportunities to up and coming Managers who are Italian.On the proven winner thing what had Mancini or Enrique won pre City and Barca?
Also forgot to add, Conte was also Atalanta Manager where he had a absolute disaster and had to be protected from the Atalanta fans and left the club in 19th before he quit the club. He then returned to Serie B with Siena and got them promoted and that was enough for him to get the job at Juve.To add to your post, Antonio Conte had been sacked at Arrezo, then reinstated a year later where he was relegated with them. He was then appointed Bari Manager where he got them promoted from Serie B, which got him the Juve job. He got the Juve job because he was a ex player and Juve are known to give opportunities to up and coming Managers who are Italian.