In terms of the 'our boys' reference, it could be the recent abuse claims made against British Armed Forces.
Here us a link to provide a taste of where these inquiries went wrong.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-38937053
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Here us a link to provide a taste of where these inquiries went wrong.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-38937053
Wait what!? I sort of feel bad now, I though you were disputing the statics I brought up earlier, hence why I was happy to be proven wrong(For example I said infant mortality has had a rise in the UK not that it's the highest in the EU).
Yeah we clearly are not talking about the same subject.
Not being the worse doesnt mean its not bad or ideal, though.
When you use words such as '''huge" one would expect you are referring to more than 50%.
I think that's a rather bizzare measurement, if we are taking about millions of people then I think it's fair to say the uk has a huge problem with poverty.
Nigeria has a huge problem with poverty. Congo has a huge problem with poverty. UK does not have a huge problem with poverty.
But anyway this is pointless agrument. You have one judgment on what huge means and I have another.
There's a cock joke somewhere here
No, the answer is quite right right time around. They're campaigning about 3 boys, having claimed it was terror related and murder. There's a lot about it on google.
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/josh-harry-george
https://www.facebook.com/OurBoysJustice/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43195171
The BBC report is so contradictory to the facebook page. I haven't heard of terrorists who drive with 2.5x alcohol and cannabis before hitting 3 people on an otherwise empty road.
With no other context, I'd say this campaign is based around the skin colour of the perpetrator.
Quite often undertaken by couples and families using their 2 week breaks and the farm I grew up on we also had Romany people harvesting hops but none of them full time jobs.
Ah yes. The old "they could be in a hut in Africa" argument. A statement usually rolled out by people who are comparatively well off as part of the ongoing denigration and demonisation of the poor. We've also had this in the Brexit thread with multiple claims about how people aren't really that poor including the classic "I used to drive near there and it didn't look that bad" alongside the African references.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46236642
The UN clearly talking bollocks in the above and needing lads on the caf to point them in the direction of some proper mud hut poverty and not the idle British working class who have brought it all on themselves.
What must posters from really poor countries think when they see a bunch of British posters arguing about how bad their country has it. "Brexit has fecked their little minds!"
Every country has their issues, nobody is arguing that things here are perfect... but yes, things could indeed be worse.
Never fear, the yellow vests are here.... and failing that, Brexit will fix it.
Every country has their issues, nobody is arguing that things here are perfect... but yes, things could indeed be worse.
Never fear, the yellow vests are here.... and failing that, Brexit will fix it.
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It's easy to form opinions. The fact is there are a lot of egos and their opinion is about as valued as a box of toilet paper and they will wipe their butt on it. If people have a complaint? Power to them if it's legit. We should have done it when these politicans thought up bedroom tax ffs. The French people are being taxed to death and doing what they have to. Here, if your situation is decent, it's hard to imagine how tough it could be and why would you even care tbh? The fact is everything is a word game with politics. People voted out? Nah you misunderstood we meant a deal or remain. Sorry. Lots of fear mongering. There are too many people on the streets. You see them everywhere in stations, sleeping in parks, in hospital waiting rooms...we're a developed nation. Let's get our ____ together.
Big corporations getting away with little to no tax? The money system IS a con. It's not gold standard and the only reason to create interest is to cause debt and the only reason to create debt is to seize control or seize assets. But too many homeless. We can import the third world, but what about the people who need help who are here now? So yeah there is inconvenience caused and there is lots of nonsense that comes out of it. But the truth is people have turned a blind eye and become lazy because I find it hard to imagine why anyone in this country wouldn't want US the people...to have a say in our laws. This is what it's coming down to. Even if the choice was evil vs lesser evil - cause they don't really care either way but we have to have a say..so from brexit POV, to me it's a non brainer cause the alternative is a dictatorship
If we want to be like China? Then let's continue down this road. Why not? Maybe it will do some people some good to see where we're going. I don't think people get it. This lack of empathy/understanding and not realizing the bigger picture, has destroyed this country.
Big corporations getting away with little to no tax? The money system IS a con. It's not gold standard and the only reason to create interest is to cause debt and the only reason to create debt is to seize control or seize assets. But too many homeless. We can import the third world, but what about the people who need help who are here now? So yeah there is inconvenience caused and there is lots of nonsense that comes out of it. But the truth is people have turned a blind eye and become lazy because I find it hard to imagine why anyone in this country wouldn't want US the people...to have a say in our laws. This is what it's coming down to. Even if the choice was evil vs lesser evil - cause they don't really care either way but we have to have a say..so from brexit POV, to me it's a non brainer cause the alternative is a dictatorship
If we want to be like China? Then let's continue down this road. Why not? Maybe it will do some people some good to see where we're going. I don't think people get it. This lack of empathy/understanding and not realizing the bigger picture, has destroyed this country.
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Here's the thing, if their agenda wasn't sprinkled with a bit of racism here, a bit of xenophobia there, and if they were more inclusive in what they were trying to achieve... I might be a bit more receptive.
I'm open to a people's movement that I can feel a part of, that includes other issues that are important to me. It ain't this...
So don't get it twisted.
I'm open to a people's movement that I can feel a part of, that includes other issues that are important to me. It ain't this...
So don't get it twisted.
But this country has had a say in two general elections and a referendum in the past four years. They voted Tory and Brexit, two positions which ensure poverty, hardship, less control, more inequality and a greater expansion of the kind of economics you despise.
What do you think would be better with the gold standard? (Full disclosure: I think the western world would be nowhere as developed if it had stuck to the gold standard).
And this why it's so fecking hard to take any brexiteers serious anymore. The EU is not a dictatorship, it's a completely ludicrous allegation dreamed up by the ignorant uninformed. Being in a community that collectively decides on rules is not a dictatorship.
I really wish you people had to explain to Hitler's, Stalin's or Mao's victims why you are using their horrible fate as a lazy political argument. It's nauseating.
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'Pentioners' - fecking pond life.This was the leaflet they were handing out weeks back. Not the brightest bunch.
I was working for a major UK aero engine company during the terrible conflicts between the TU's and the government. We were on strike just after we got married and had bought a house. The interest rate was increasingly every month and I can tell you we really struggled to pay the mortgage.
You can imagine how that era would have played out today...
You are totally right about the effects of social media. This is actually the only online forum I use but as we know it can easily distort individuals views.
If they see it written down they tend to believe it.
We will have to try to educate our young to be far more sensible in its use but on this issue I am far from optimistic.
As a teacher, I have to say that from my personal experience the young are a lot more resistant against this sort of online manipulation than older generations. People 40+ are a lot more likely to believe something because they read it online than the young are. We do have some work to do still, but I don't think the older generations are the ones to do the teaching.
I’ve heard that before. The most optimistic way to look at the way people are so easily duped online is that we’re living in a unique time when a huge number of people are incredibly naive about the validity of online content because the internet is a relatively new concept to them an they’ve grown up in a world where the written word can usually be trusted. Once they die off and get replaced by a new, more internet savvy, generation then we should be ok. I like that way of looking at things.
That is both interesting and encouraging.
I am hoping you will say that is because our younger generation are better educated in general?
Also bought my first house in 77 , was never out of work or on strike but getting a letter every couple of months saying the interest had increased and thus the repayments had shot up meant that sometimes it was a choice between paying the mortgage or eat.
Social media is getting worse and have just got rid of Facebook, have nothing else. It does tend to be the older generation that believe the lies but tends to follow more the intelligence of people than their age, maybe younger people have been better educated on the whole but there are plenty who are just as ignorant as their elders and there are plenty of older people who are far more intelligent than younger people.
Only one would expect that-you.
No, people who understand english
adjective
adjective: huge;
- extremely large; enormous.
"a huge area"
synonyms : enormous, vast, immense, very large, very big, great, massive, cosmic, colossal, prodigious, gigantic, gargantuan, mammoth, monumental, tremendous, stupendous;Plus
antonyms : insignificant, tiny
Yeah, I like to think that this is correct.
Maybe, sort of? In this specific case, I think it's more a case that, as Pogue says, the young are simply more digitally competent than older generations. But that certainly means that they have a better foundation for properly using (and choosing) all the sources of information they have available. They're not perfect, but they grasp it a little bit more instinctively.
My 9 year old son told me I shouldn’t believe everything I read on wikipedia yesterday. Which surprised me and pleased me in equal measures.
Off topic but I watched a news segment last week where they showed that you can now convincingly make a fake video of someone. They illustrated this by making a video of Obama giving a speech that he obviously had never given, and it was convincing. They finished off by stating that this tech will turn up in phone apps soon enough (oh joy)...
Shits set to get worse....
Yeah that’s going to be a game changer. Like 99% of online technological advances it will be mainly used for porn initially but it’s scary to think how effective it could be as a tool for propaganda.
Edit: I think the technology is called “DeepFake”
Yup that's the one.
Didn’t think it was a thing and only some sort of joke but it keeps popping up on my Twitter feed, russian trolls are now certainly on it too. The state of this country.
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So... um... yeah...
The French Liberation Front vs the French Front for Liberation.
Just push the button now. We are doomed.
It must be very confusing. They really should agree on an away strip.
And which one of those means more than 50%?
but what have the Romans ever done for us?
That's backbench Tory policy for soldiers who murdered in Northern Ireland.
Well if huge doesn't then by your logic the winner is - tiny