Yerry Mina - Everton Player

[worldinmotion66]

If football goes the way of the world cup with var dominating proceedings, set pieces could become more and more important.

I think this could be in Jose's thinking given that technology will most likely be introduced in England the season after this one. Maguire and mina proved to be two of the biggest threats from corners and 3 at the back adds more height generally speaking too.

Also, the non EU quota for Spanish teams is probably the main reason Barcelona want rid of this guy. I'm sure they'd keep hold of him were he a spaniard.

 

[bonusroller]

I keep saying his name in a scouse accent. Imagine Stevie G saying his name. I'm out!

Thing is if we sell Rojo for £30m and get this guy for the same price, we may have improved the squad in terms that Rojo is injury prone.

 

[Coops73]

Loads of “experts” on here saying how shit this bloke is have probably never seen him play. IF he does sign for us I hope he’s brilliant if not just to shut up the naysayers.

 

[Hans Moleman]

You don't need to have seen him play. He's got almost no top level experience, no PL experience, and is being bombed out by Barca after only 6 months. How is that the composed ball-playing leader the defence needs? We've gone from Toby to this budget signing, there's a vast gap between them.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Loads of “experts” on here saying how shit this bloke is have probably never seen him play. IF he does sign for us I hope he’s brilliant if not just to shut up the naysayers.

We all know very very little about him really. The Barcelona stint is too short to genuinely make an inference from. The only I gather based on that is that it didn't work out for him and his ability on the ball is supposedly not great. Then again, for Barcelona even Fabregas' ability in tight spaces wasn't good enough so it's a different yardstick.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

I really do not believe that we are really trying to sign him. I think it is much more likely he ends up at Everton or Lyon.

 

[Micky Targaryen]

You don't need to have seen him play. He's got almost no top level experience, no PL experience, and is being bombed out by Barca after only 6 months. How is that the composed ball-playing leader the defence needs? We've gone from Toby to this budget signing, there's a vast gap between them.

There you go, this is the root cause of why the Caf scouting team disapprove of this signing.

It's almost as if a 23 year old footballer can't improve and adapt and Jose is clueless about defenders.

 

[Mainoldo]

He’s crap. Can’t believe we going to waste more money on yet another CB who will probably be surplus to requirements for the next manager. Atleast Ed has got more money to waste on a CB next season. We need a experienced ball playing CB, this guy is not it.

 

[Rake]

There you go, this is the root cause of why the Caf scouting team disapprove of this signing.

It's almost as if a 23 year old footballer can't improve and adapt and Jose is clueless about defenders.

Not going to comment on his qualities but I'd seem that he is a stopgap signing who could eventually become really good for United. It must be painfully obvious to everyone by now that he was nowhere near the top of Mourinho's list. If he was, he'd have been signed already

 

[Sanche7]

He’s crap. Can’t believe we going to waste more money on yet another CB who will probably be surplus to requirements for the next manager. Atleast Ed has got more money to waste on a CB next season. We need a experienced ball playing CB, this guy is not it.

Mina now and Toby in Jan?
Mina replaces Rojo as 3rd/4th choice CB, gives us the aerial dominance and some skill on the ball, which is what Jose is looking for and probably won't cost more than 25 million + add ons
Is he better than Rojo? - No
Is he younger, less injury prone with a chance to improve? - Yes
He has the physicality to succeed in the PL, looked good in the WC and won't be on a huge salary. Even if he flops we can sell him to Everton for 30 mill and even make a profit
Is he the best signing we could do? Nope, nowhere near.

 

[devilish]

Mina now and Toby in Jan?
Mina replaces Rojo as 3rd/4th choice CB, gives us the aerial dominance and some skill on the ball, which is what Jose is looking for and probably won't cost more than 25 million + add ons
Is he better than Rojo? - No
Is he younger, less injury prone with a chance to improve? - Yes
He has the physicality to succeed in the PL, looked good in the WC and won't be on a huge salary. Even if he flops we can sell him to Everton for 30 mill and even make a profit
Is he the best signing we could do? Nope, nowhere near.

I would be very disappointed if he's not better then Rojo. The Argentinian is an error bound to happen

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Do we think if we're signing Mina (for only about 30m) instead of Toby or Maguire, it means we're saving some funds and going for a right winger as well?

 

[OldSchoolManc]

My only issue with this deal is that it didn’t happen before the WC. I would have enjoyed rooting for Colombia knowing he was a United player.

If we were to go back in time with the signing already made and watch the World Cup again, we would be pretty excited about his arrival.

 

[devilish]

Do we think if we're signing Mina (for only about 30m) instead of Toby or Maguire, it means we're saving some funds and going for a right winger as well?

I don't know about that. However I think we might get the Colombian Smalling now for 30m, sell Rojo for around the same price and than get Toby next summer for 25m. In that way we're remove an injury prone player off our payroll and bring someone whose taller, more reliable and hopefully better then Rojo

 

[Judas]

Just weird buying a player who I don't see making much difference to us at all. If he does, it'll be gradually over time, hardly come in and be our best defender right from the jump, which is exactly what I thought we wanted.

Do we think if we're signing Mina (for only about 30m) instead of Toby or Maguire, it means we're saving some funds and going for a right winger as well?

I don't think we need to save funds, but if we say your idea is right who would it even be?

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Won’t we still need that “experienced” CB even if we sign him?

 

[Maurice Setters Training]

I am assuming Mourinho scouted him and that Utd would not take a £35 Million punt on someone, based purely on World Cup highlights

I was listening to Terry Gibson (who now works in Spain in some media capacity) talk about Mina earlier.

His conclusion was that Barcelona may have decided to let him go too early and that he had these attributes/weaknesses:

• Very Athletic and powerful
• Very good in the air, in both boxes
• Fast when he is up and running (Pallister?)
• Raw talent
• Still makes youthful mistakes-but that should improve with experience
• Not a ball playing defender (He did not go into depth, so I was unclear whether he was just not as good on the ball as players like Pique, or whether he was limited on the ball)

If we buy him, and he gets into the first team with those attributes, who do you think we would partner him with?

 

[Judas]

If we sell Smalling and buy Mina, I'd be beyond gobsmacked.

 

[devilish]

If we sell Smalling and buy Mina, I'd be beyond gobsmacked.

I think he'll act as cover/competitor to Smalling.

 

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

We must have scouted him for a long time to deem him good enough, if we really are in for him.

I don't see the point in a signing like this, specially when we have more urgent needs at LB and RW. His aerial presence is nice though, as we look very weak in that area without Smalling.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Just weird buying a player who I don't see making much difference to us at all. If he does, it'll be gradually over time, hardly come in and be our best defender right from the jump, which is exactly what I thought we wanted.



I don't think we need to save funds, but if we say your idea is right who would it even be?

No idea. But presumably the board wouldn't let Jose sign Maguire for £65m and then also fund about £60m for Willian.

If he gets the cheaper option of Mina, there should definitely be some funds to spare. Assuming Rojo goes, our net spend at present will only be about 25m

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

I suspect that, like Maguire, he came to our attention at the World Cup!

 

[Zorewa]

I think we need experienced quality leader at the back like Alderweireld/Maguire but I would neither pay £55m for 29 years old Alderweireld nor break transfer fee for defender for Maguire. I would take Mina this window for around £25m and take Alderweireld next summer for £25m.

Mina may not be the best CB but he would address one of our weaknesses at the back i.e. winning headers. For all his qualities, I think Bailly is very bad in air for a CB, and Lindelof isn't any better.
Imagine having a corner at Etihad and Mina, Fellaini, Lukaku, Smalling, Pogba, Matic are at the box waiting for it.

 

[Brightonian]

If we were to go back in time with the signing already made and watch the World Cup again, we would be pretty excited about his arrival.

Chicharito style.

 

[Sanche7]

Hopefully we don't pay more than 25 mill plus add ons for him. Barca bought him for 9 million in Jan. He was not at all impressive for them. He had a good WC but that shouldn't triple his price.
Anything more than 25 mill and we are getting mugged.
Barca shifting their dead wood for huge profits - Paulinho for a profit of 14 million, Digne for 5 million and now Mina for 20 mill.

 

[Sanche7]

I think we need experienced quality leader at the back like Alderweireld/Maguire but I would neither pay £55m for 29 years old Alderweireld nor break transfer fee for defender for Maguire. I would take Mina this window for around £25m and take Alderweireld next summer for £25m.

Mina may not be the best CB but he would address one of our weaknesses at the back i.e. winning headers. For all his qualities, I think Bailly is very bad in air for a CB, and Lindelof isn't any better.
Imagine having a corner at Etihad and Mina, Fellaini, Lukaku, Smalling, Pogba, Matic are at the box waiting for it.

Even if we have all the giants in the world lined up, it won't matter as we often fail to clear the first man

 

[Lash]

are we sure 35m is the fee? they need to sell him as they literally can't register him, I'm sure we could knock that down.

 

[JJ12]

I suspect that, like Maguire, he came to our attention at the World Cup!

We were scouting him along with a lot of Europe’s top clubs before he joined Barca.

I don’t even think he was that impressive in the World Cup.

 

[ZlatMan]

I'll be happy if this was a loan plus option to buy but getting him for 35m is too risky. Mina only has minimal experience in a top European league. Signing him only based on his World Cup performance is repeating the same mistake we made with Rojo.

 

[Jinn]

Apparently there was a list. He must have been on that list. Looks as if he is going to join the club. I think we should all accept this and move on.
No point in bitching and moaning about it, just get on with it.

I have to admit, I do not know much about the guy. In saying that, I didn't know much about Vidic when he arrived. Might be a pleasant surprise.

 

[Danish Wizard]

Just play Tuanzebe instead of wasting money on this Mina guy, who is not going to strengthen us at all.

 

[Sultan]

Even if we have all the giants in the world lined up, it won't matter as we often fail to clear the first man

Think he means defending a corner.

 

[buchansleftleg]

Why do I get that feeling that I used to get at HMV, when after thumbing through all the exports, rarities and classic albums, I end up fingering through the wire basket of dog-eared reductions and over-stocked 7 inch singles, wasting 99p on something I never end up playing more than once.

 

[JPRouve]

are we sure 35m is the fee? they need to sell him as they literally can't register him, I'm sure we could knock that down.

I'm going to repeat this, they don't have to sell him, they can loan him if they want or send him to Barcelona B and play him in Copa Del Rey and CL.

 

[Litch]

In fairness, you could find at least 2 clowns on this forum at any particular time writing off any of our players.
So we can't take that as an all encompassing "he's crap"

Find two clowns......love that and your absolutely right. Ask someone about Pogba during last season. People were talking about him going in Jan.

 

[slyadams]

It seems hard to believe that we've been extensively scouting him given he's been at Barca for only 6 months. So either we were scouting him before that move, or we decided to scout a player that had just signed for a club. Both seem unlikely to me. I worry we over-estimate the due diligence that goes into some of these moves.

 

[villain]

So is this actually looking likely

I'll be happy if this was a loan plus option to buy but getting him for 35m is too risky. Mina only has minimal experience in a top European league. Signing him only based on his World Cup performance is repeating the same mistake we made with Rojo.

To be fair, I think Bailly only had about 40 appearances in La Liga before we signed him.

 

[AlwaysRed66]

I haven't heard good things about this guy, & seems very uninspiring. What is worrying is that the only big side who is remotely interested in him is us, with other interest from likes of Wolves & Everton.

 

[Nick7]

It would be ridiculous if Barca made triple their money 6 months after buying him.

 

[Sultan]

I'd never heard his name before it appeared on the Caf. Anyway, I'd also never heard of Evra, Vidic, twins, Ronaldo, Ole, Stam, RvN, etc...