Nasri To City - Done Deal!

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He doesn't need to have had a childhood dream, though. If he wants to continue playing in the Premier League, which is entirely feasible and frankly quite likely, and he has his mind made up that he's leaving Arsenal, which is seems he has, then all he has to do is make it clear to Wenger that he will only sign for Club X, Y or Z in England.

Wenger is then faced with the option of sell him now or be stubborn and lose him for free. I'm quite sure he's pragmatic enough to realise that selling him now is the only real option.

There's one person who is in a position of power in this transfer, and that's the player.
It all depends on the respect Nasri has for the club. Normally players don't join our rivals principally out of respect for Wenger, so it'll be interesting to see what Nasri does. I personally feel if he does stay in England for whatever reason, City will be his destination as opposed to United. Wenger's already completely ruled out selling him to United.
 

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Veron was used to the pace of Italy. England was too quick for him and in reality we had the same player (only better) it turns out in Scholes though at that time Keane was still a driving force. I think it was a case of too many cooks and it's a pity about Veron. As I say, I think the pace of the league and not being able to dominate as he'd like hindered him. In Europe though he looked a better player
So if we sign Schneider - for example - whats to say your not back on here in 12 months saying he was 'used to the pace of Italy'?

I know this is the Nasri thread but in England we haven't seen Nasri play in a midfield 2. So signing him could be just as disruptive. Its gonna be a very new look United next year. After reacthing 3 euro finals and winning 3 leagues in four years. We seem to be descontructing the team completely. Might be a big period of transition that many on here aren't expecting...
 

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It all depends on the respect Nasri has for the club. Normally players don't join our rivals principally out of respect for Wenger, so it'll be interesting to see what Nasri does. I personally feel if he does stay in England for whatever reason, City will be his destination as opposed to United. Wenger's already completely ruled out selling him to United.



Wenger will not decide Nasri will.
 

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It all depends on the respect Nasri has for the club. Normally players don't join our rivals principally out of respect for Wenger, so it'll be interesting to see what Nasri does. I personally feel if he does stay in England for whatever reason, City will be his destination as opposed to United. Wenger's already completely ruled out selling him to United.
So City aren't a rival to Arsenal??
 

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So if we sign Schneider - for example - whats to say your not back on here in 12 months saying he was 'used to the pace of Italy'?

I know this is the Nasri thread but in England we haven't seen Nasri play in a midfield 2. So signing him could be just as disruptive. Its gonna be a very new look United next year. After reacthing 3 euro finals and winning 3 leagues in four years. We seem to be descontructing the team completely. Might be a big period of transition that many on here aren't expecting...
He's played in Spain too plus he's not that sort of player. He's different to Veron. When you talk about a midfield two, you are actually talking about a midfield three with Rooney dropping deep. That's good enough against a lot of teams. Obviously you need a partner to suit but we have good options
 

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Every piece of news about Nasri is of a debateable source. I still think he might sign a new deal to be honest.
Was it you or someone else who told me he's sign within a week 3/4/5 weeks ago? If I was in your shoes i'd be disappointed so not rubbing it in, but that's very unlikely to happen. Arsenals problem is creating the belief they are serious but they're not in for Modric, Snijder...who are Arsenal in for? People joke about transfers but psychologically it makes a big difference to players belief in their team.
 

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Was it you or someone else who told me he's sign within a week 3/4/5 weeks ago? If I was in your shoes i'd be disappointed so not rubbing it in, but that's very unlikely to happen.
I doubt it was me, but if it was, I was clearly wrong. We'll see what happens, but I'd love to see the odds on both Cesc and Nasri to start the season as Arsenal players.
 

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He's played in Spain too plus he's not that sort of player. He's different to Veron. When you talk about a midfield two, you are actually talking about a midfield three with Rooney dropping deep. That's good enough against a lot of teams. Obviously you need a partner to suit but we have good options
I think the whole Rooney dropping deep argument is over stated.
He's a striker. End of story.
I like Nasri. He's a good player. A very good player. But I'm not sure he's what we need. I've been on record in another thread saying that I'm not sure the player we do need it even out there at the moment.
 

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I think the whole Rooney dropping deep argument is over stated.
He's a striker. End of story.
I like Nasri. He's a good player. A very good player. But I'm not sure he's what we need. I've been on record in another thread saying that I'm not sure the player we do need it even out there at the moment.
He's in the hole. When you are in the hole, your dropping deep linking with midfield half the time anyway. What you have to consider is what we have and ask yourself if we got Nasri, does that mean that's it? We would put the cheque book away? No one knows...

I think we're pretty good, we've outstanding youth prospects, Tunnicliffe on loan, cleverly returning and plenty of options. Hopefully Anderson will improve further/Fletcher etc. So what you have to deal with, is IF we bought him...what then?
 

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I doubt it was me, but if it was, I was clearly wrong. We'll see what happens, but I'd love to see the odds on both Cesc and Nasri to start the season as Arsenal players.
:lol:

I was looking to back you up on that, but your post history didn't really do that. I strongly doubt it will happen as well.

If he sticks around, he'll have trophies with us at some point. And he knows that, and thus the contract will be signed next week.
I think you over-estimate United's pulling power to Nasri. If Nasri genuinely wants to leave, it's for trophies. He could get them at United, but he could do it abroad as well. There's just no way it's happening.
If we sold Nasri to United, I'm pretty sure there would be some kind of revolt if he wasn't replaced with an already established player. It's a bit of a moot point though, given it'll never happen. Wenger isn't stupid, he knows how unpopular he'd be.
 

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So when he was in the hole versus Barca how many tackles did he win against the likes of Xavi and Iniesta?
You bring up one performance and I agree with you. However, over 6 years was that a typical Rooney in the hole performance? It was clear to a blind man, he was poor the goal aside. He lacked energy. He didn't get stuck in. He seemed maybe in awe but it was one non performance. Everyone knows what Rooneys about when he's on his game. The fact is Barcelona keep the ball to death and he wasn't supported because the midfield two dropped deep.
 

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You bring up one performance and I agree with you. However, over 6 years was that a typical Rooney in the hole performance? It was clear to a blind man, he was poor the goal aside. He lacked energy. He didn't get stuck in. He seemed maybe in awe but it was one non performance.
Yeah but i'm not sure his role 'in the hole' is necessarily a third midfielder. He's more a creative force playing deep. The point about Nasri and Wes is they - in a sense - are similar to Rooney. They are creative midfielders. A Nasri in CM means changing the system. It probably means droping chicarito and reverting to one up top. So you can play Carrick, Fletch, Park, Anderson or even Cleverly to do the hard graft in midfield. I think the comparisons with what happened when Veron arrived are very similar.

I'd much prefer it if we were going after a dominating physical presence in midfield. Who that is I just do not know....

Either way, if we sign a Nasri it will be very interesting to see what happens....the whole system will have to change to cope with a player like him. I think...
 

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Yeah but i'm not sure his role 'in the hole' is necessarily a third midfielder. He's more a creative force playing deep. The point about Nasri and Wes is they - in a sense - are simillar to Rooney. They are creative midfielders. A Nasri in CM means changing the system. It probably means droping chicarito and reverting to one up top. So you can play Carrick, Fletch, Park, Anderson or even Cleverly to do the hard graft in midfield. I think the comparisons with what happened when Veron arrived are very simillar.

I'm much prefer it if we were going after a dominating physical presence in midfield. Who that is I just do not know....

Either way, if we sign a Nasri it will be very interesting to see what happens....the whole system will have to change to cope with a player like him. I think...
It's offering support to the midfield. He's not a third midfielder, he just adds another body of support. I don't know how we'll set up next season. That's what makes it interesting I suppose. We could still go for a physical presence and we have Tunnicliffe out on loan who is that type of player. One to keep an eye on as he's on loan till Jan.
 

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It's offering support to the midfield. He's not a third midfielder, he just adds another body of support. I don't know how we'll set up next season. That's what makes it interesting I suppose. We could still go for a physical presence and we have Tunnicliffe out on loan who is that type of player. One to keep an eye on as he's on loan till Jan.
Your earlier post said that Rooney dropping deep means we effectively play a midfield 3 :confused:

So i guess not you don't think so?
 

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Your earlier post said that Rooney dropping deep means we effectively play a midfield 3 :confused:

So i guess not you don't think so?
It's just a name. It really doesn't matter. Effectively when someone supports they're playing in a midfield area but most people know Rooneys a striker.
 

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On Nasri, Arsenal obviously happy to cultivate an auction, real or otherwise. Utd confident £20m will be enough.
 

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Not that I'm complaining, but is it just me who thinks £20m is incredibly steep given the contract situation? Normally these players go for £10-12m tops. Weird.
 

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Not that I'm complaining, but is it just me who thinks £20m is incredibly steep given the contract situation? Normally these players go for £10-12m tops. Weird.
Well Young went for 17m and Nasri is a better player in truth.

Though Young is English which always bumps up the price.
 

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Well Young went for 17m and Nasri is a better player in truth.

Though Young is English which always bumps up the price.
Yeh, Young was hugely over-priced as well given his contract situation too. I honestly expected Young to go for about £8m and Nasri to go for about £13m - maybe I'm just living in the past.
 

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Put it this way. Young went for 17m with a similar length of contract left and Nasri is better than him.
Slow-poke!

Yeh, Young was hugely over-priced as well given his contract situation too. I honestly expected Young to go for about £8m and Nasri to go for about £13m - maybe I'm just living in the past.
Blame Chelsea and City really, they'll bid for anyone and then the price sky rockets. Sanchez would probably be at Barca for the 27m by now if City hadn't gone and offered more for him.
 

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