RDCR07
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Brilliant news this!
Kids don't always realise their potential, and the club has to protect itself. I'm sure if he does well and makes an impact his contract will be upgraded soon.Why just a 4 yr contract? I could never understand giving out a 3/4 yr contract to a talented kid, a player of his talent should've been given a minimum 5 yr deal.
I agree but should probably mention that 5 years is the maximum contract length. It'd be both the minimum and the maximum, if that makes sense.Why just a 4 yr contract? I could never understand giving out a 3/4 yr contract to a talented kid, a player of his talent should've been given a minimum 5 yr deal.
Apparently so. That's not his position though. From what I've seen (1 whole game in which he was fecking shit) he is best suited to any of the 3 in a 4231.He's played there a fair bit.
It's because I'm that damn good. If I'm wrong I'll attempt to eat my face.Amazing how so many caftards can talk with such conviction about how good he is and what his best position is after watching him play one game of football.
Shelvey is 20 years old! Bit early to write him off, how old was Cleverley when he went on loan to Watford?He looks like he has a cracking shot on him but I'm definitely reserving judgement. That ugly slap-head fella that Liverpool signed from the lower leagues (blanking on his name) had a great highlight reel too.
For me, the real positive is Fergie's close relationship with Dario Gradi. Crewe have had a lot of decent young players over the years, so it must take something special to convince Fergie to pounce.
I'm not writing him off but I certainly wouldn't be very excited if we signed him.Shelvey is 20 years old! Bit early to write him off, how old was Cleverley when he went on loan to Watford?
How can you tell what position he's best suited to from a game in which he was fecking shit?Apparently so. That's not his position though. From what I've seen (1 whole game in which he was fecking shit) he is best suited to any of the 3 in a 4231.
Just looking at Shelvey's stats on wiki and he got 6 goals in 10 games at Blackpool last year before being called back due to Lucas's injury.I'm not writing him off but I certainly wouldn't be very excited if we signed him.
Because he played all other positions, including keeper, and stank at them?How can you tell what position he's best suited to from a game in which he was fecking shit?
Maybe they would. I don't rate Shelvey myself though. Which was my point.Just looking at Shelvey's stats on wiki and he got 6 goals in 10 games at Blackpool last year before being called back due to Lucas's injury.
Many a Caftard would be cumming in their pants if a United youngster performed like that in the Championship.
Does anyone really rate Shelvey, or a supersized MiniMi as he surely looks like...Maybe they would. I don't rate Shelvey myself though. Which was my point.
...How can you tell what position he's best suited to from a game in which he was fecking shit?
It's because I'm that damn good. If I'm wrong I'll attempt to eat my face.
One of my colleagues is a Crewe fan (well, actually a United fan but is from Crewe) and attends most home games. It's him that told me really. Hash tag just sayin'.
To be fair to Pogue, that is exactly what we might be saying about Nick Powell in two years time.Does anyone really rate Shelvey, or a supersized MiniMi as he surely looks like...
Very average, but a fairly good shot on him.
I don't think Pogue is missing the mark at all; just a bit pessimistic, that's all.To be fair to Pogue, that is exactly what we might be saying about Nick Powell in two years time.
Though I don't really think that you could say with true conviction that Shelvey is average, he is developing quite well for a 20 year old.
He's amazing at everything. He's exactly like Steven Gerrard only better and not a scouser. I've seen him play once, he wasn't very good but scored a cracker, so yeah, he's fecking amazing. Honestly, I've no clue, but it sounds like he has potential so we'll just have to see how he goesSo, what is he like then? How's his touch, control, technique, dribbling, is he quick, does he like to do one touch passing? And does anyone actually know for certain if he is a midfielder or a striker? For people who have actually watched him, not what somebody's opinion after 1 match is. Never heard of him before we were linked. It obviously sir Alex saw something in him so we will see how he does.
So not a Gerrard, but a Lampard then?He's amazing at everything. He's exactly like Steven Gerrard only better and not a scouser. I've seen him play once, he wasn't very good but scored a cracker, so yeah, he's fecking amazing. Honestly, I've no clue, but it sounds like he has potential so we'll just have to see how he goes
He's very quick, can dribble and is very good with both feet (I actually don't know which he favours from the one game I saw). Not sure on the passing etc as I only saw him play the once and he wasn't very good. Repeatedly made the wrong decision and pass execution was poor.So, what is he like then? How's his touch, control, technique, dribbling, is he quick, does he like to do one touch passing? And does anyone actually know for certain if he is a midfielder or a striker? For people who have actually watched him, not what somebody's opinion after 1 match is. Never heard of him before we were linked. It obviously sir Alex saw something in him so we will see how he does.
Harsh, he looks quite slim in that picture with Mr Gill.So not a Gerrard, but a Lampard then?
Sounds shit. Looks like he needs to bulk up too.He's very quick, can dribble and is very good with both feet (I actually don't know which he favours from the one game I saw). Not sure on the passing etc as I only saw him play the once and he wasn't very good. Repeatedly made the wrong decision and pass execution was poor.
Gibson never even scored 6 goals in a season let alone in 10 games and a Wolves fan friend that I talked too said that he was 'fecking shit' on loan for them.I don't think Pogue is missing the mark at all; just a bit pessimistic, that's all.
I'm convinced beyong all doubt that Shelvey is very average. I can't see him becoming much more than average - reminds me a lot about Gibson tbf, which of course makes him a worthy PL-player, just not top class. Could see him do well for a mid-table team like Liverpool
You know as well as I do that you can't rate a midfielder by goals alone. Each time I watch Shelvey I see average written across his forehead. His pace is average, his passing is average, his technique is average as is his positioning both defensively and offensively. Seems to have a good shot, and thus would score some goals. Sounds like Gibson to me...Gibson never even scored 6 goals in a season let alone in 10 games and a Wolves fan friend that I talked too said that he was 'fecking shit' on loan for them.
Regardless, Powell to me, looks to have magic in them there boots and yes Pogue I have only seen one game and numerous you tube videos.
The last player that I got a similar instinctive feeling about, that I thought that he was going to be brilliant after watching just one game, was Stevan Jovetic against Liverpool.
I can't say that he struck me as slow when I watched him but you know who does strike me as slow.............Paul Pogba. I would say that the player that Powell is most like is Lampard, is he fast?You know as well as I do that you can't rate a midfielder by goals alone. Each time I watch Shelvey I see average written across his forehead. His pace is average, his passing is average, his technique is average as is his positioning both defensively and offensively. Seems to have a good shot, and thus would score some goals. Sounds like Gibson to me...
I have seen very little of Powell, but in one of the videos he did seem a bit sluggish whilst running with the ball at his feet - is that a correct observation? Sounds weird though as Fergie said that he would opt for quick players in the future...
Pogba seemed fast once up to speed, but sluggish in acceleration. Lampard isn't fast, but he times his runs perfectly - normally does feck all in a match except score though... If United had Lampard, Evra would be assist-king as he normally passes the ball 45 degrees, and United never has a player turning up in that area - around the penalty spot. Maybe Kagawa and or Powerll can rectify that.I can't say that he struck me as slow when I watched him but you know who does strike me as slow.............Paul Pogba. I would say that the player that Powell is most like is Lampard, is he fast?
Why? He might not need it.I hope we loan him out within the Prem when the time comes.