Suarez

[Kraftwerker]

No, I think what people were advocating was that it was a great opportunity for him to do that and gain some respect/appreciation for it.

I would never expect a player to do it, if they do fair enough. At 1-0 against Mansfield the worst case scenario was probably a draw and an easy replay. Most likely you would win anyway and get no end of brownie points going into their Cup Final against us next week.

As far as I'm concerned I'm delighted with how it panned out as it can only ever help us on Sunday, both with the refs and with him reverting to "Poor Me" instead of his recent confident mood. I would much rather he spends the entire game diving than skinning our defenders.

This is pretty much it.

There's no way anyone should expect him to own up.

That would be applying a moral code we wouldn't apply to anyone else, on a player we know has none.

Pointless.

However, it was a massive opportunity for him to 'do a Klose' and claw back a little respect and dignity, after a long series of incidents. The back pages could have been filled with Suarez's fairplay gesture. The Liverpool fans would've wanked themselves into a self-righteous frenzy. Instead, he looks worse than ever. Which is funny.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Suarez didn't do anything wrong IMO.

The ball hit his hand and he benefited from it. He didnt move his arm to the ball, his arm was already up there. He was laughing when he scored as he thought it would be brought back for a free kick (It should have been a free kick, No denying that)

However, if the ref doesn't give it then he doesn't give it.

Also, I heard people saying he was mocking Mansfield by kissing his hand. That was pathetic on their part. He does the same celebration every time

I agree with this, not up to the player to say it was or was not hand ball.
If it had been any other player even in the Liverpool team, nothing would of been said.

 

[antohan]

Having an affair with your brothers wife is worse than all those things. It really doesn't come any lower than that.

Cantona was as bad on the field across his career, probably worse.

That's somewhat what I was getting at a few days ago when I said despicable human being was going too far.

There are two arenas here: on the pitch and off the pitch.

Off the pitch there is nothing (other than a random photo of a kid approaching him) to hold against him while several players -including ours- have some serious bad form.

On the pitch he is a windup who will resort to anything to unsettle rival defenders and will seize any advantage available to help his team win. A lot of cases are what you would expect anyone else to do (e.g. both handball incidents), others are regular occurrences across the league which he deservedly gets grief for and more so because he is a serial and all-round performer and a high profile one (diving, playacting, sneaky attempts at injuring/hurting a rival, calling handballs from opponents that weren't, etc), and then you have the ones that cross the line (Evra, the biting incident) which I put down to ignorance and losing the plot altogether.

You will find players of ours that took one for the team (Solskjaer), deliberately hurt opponents (Keane), kicked fans (Cantona), handballed on the goalline or to score (Scholes). We have had our fair share of divers but SAF always stepped in if it was getting out of hand. All of them were upfront and honest about it, they owned up, they had a manager who would ensure they didn't stray completely.

None of them did the whole shebang. None of them did it on a weekly basis. None of them tried to weasel out of it. That is the character part that grates and where neither Cantona or Keane should ever be brought into it.

He is an annoying cnut but ultimately he is doing it for his club. His managers and club have been supportive throughout (sometimes in a scandalously misguided way). He is not going to change, it's for the refs to do their jobs, pick on it and act accordingly. Over time it will cost him and them more than any advantage they get from it, which is fine by me as a United supporter.

As a Uruguayan I would much rather see the in-form Suarez cutting it down, playing football and scoring and not getting his antics to hurt us. As a role model Cavani is doing the trick anyway .

 

[DixieDean]

Funnily enough, I said the same thing about the linesman in the derby match when he disallowed Suarez's late winner.

Some you win, some you lose eh ?

Yep. We got very lucky. That linesman wants sacking as well. I don't find things like that hard to admit.

 

[Red Dreams]

I think what you have to understand with the Suarez-Evra thing is that rather than seeing it as an outright racist incident, it was seen as a case of misunderstanding by our fan base. We all probably know this, but the belief was that cultural differences accounted for Suarez' innocence. You can interpret that as right or wrong, but that's where all the protest and outrage came from.

It was handled poorly, no doubt, and I can't be arsed to get into a whole debate about it all because it will rumble on for ages, but it wasn't a clear cut case of racism for Liverpool fans.

Fair enough. not agreeing with all of that. And this has been debated before...so.

 

[Redlambs]

Yep. We got very lucky. That linesman wants sacking as well. I don't find things like that hard to admit.

That seems to be the difference between Liverpool fans and most others (well the West Ham fans aren't far behind them).

Whilst you'll get fans of every team failing to see anything their own players do/results for them, whilst slagging off others, Liverpool fans on a whole just have to always go on the defensive. Even the semi-reasonable ones always have a "but" in there somewhere. Nothing is ever admitted, there's always excuses and cover ups, always the response "well sir, he started it! He did it first! Everything goes against us, we deserve a few for us!"

Suarez got away with this one, and I wouldn't expect him or anyone to have owned up to a winner, but the fact it's been made into such a big deal is his own fault more than anything else.

 

[Sandikan]

Also, I heard people saying he was mocking Mansfield by kissing his hand. That was pathetic on their part. He does the same celebration every time

Yeah, so pathetic of fans who've just seen a player cheat it in with his hand to be then laughing and kissing his hand!! Couldn't possibly see why they took that as mocking them!

Do you think all fans watch him every week, and are familiar with his celebrations?

The only non United player's celebration I'm familiar with is that stupid heart Bale does when he scores.

 

[Shane88]

“We take our responsibility to deliver the highest standards of coverage to our viewers. ESPN’s editorial policy is for commentators to be unbiased and honest, to call things as they see them. Inevitably this can involve treading a fine line on occasion, especially in the heat of the moment. Comments during the Mansfield v Liverpool match caused offence where none was intended and we have spoken to our commentator about this incident.”

ESPN responding to criticism over Jon Champion's commentating. The LFC internet warrior brigade must have been upset and lodged a few thousand complaints.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

1) It was an intentional handball. Split second reaction, but he clearly lifts his hand and pats the ball in.
2) Once the ball was in Suarez is not at fault for anything else. Sure he was a cheating cnut, but the ref missed it and Suarez was not ever going to own up to the handball and nor should he have. it's professional football FFS.
3) The kissy hand celebration is done every time the scumbag scores and honestly I thought he didn't overdo the celebration and just looked pretty sheepish throughout and was smiling as if he couldn't believe his luck.

I just wonder if we get as bad a decision on Sunday will the Scousers be as 'live and let live' as they were about this one?

 

[lunchforthesky]

What the actual feck? Closet dipper?

Suarez racially abused a black player in order to wind them up.

Cantona kicked someone in the face who had racially abused him as he walked off the pitch.

The only way he could compare to Suarez is if he rolled around pretending to be injured after kicking the twat in the face.

BOLLOCKS , did you actually watch any of his games,because it does not sound like you did.

I think assaulting a fan during a game is much worse than calling another player the N word. Which is pretty clearly reflected by their respective punishments (8 months for Cantona and an 8 game suspension for Suarez). You can talk about Matthew Simmons being a twat and he is, but I imagine a lot of people on this forum have shouted all sorts of abuse at footballers during a game, rightly and wrongly it's very much part of the sport.

And that's hardly the only thing Cantona ever did.

You can talk about Suarez leaving the foot in, which he does all the time and it's a scummy thing to do but it's nothing compared to this tackle by Cantona.


He got a three month ban for that tackle.

There's also various other off the field stuff Cantona did in France which I'm sure most of us know about already.

Now Cantona absolutely didn't do any of the weekly cnutish stuff that Suarez does throughout most games he plays in, but some of the individual incidents of Cantona are absolutely disgraceful.

No, being a racist is far worse. Sorry. Your stretch to make a point has fallen short.

What the actual feck. Is this a joke? You can't actually be serious.

Are you honestly suggesting it's a more morally deplorable thing to call someone the N word a few times in an isolated incident than it is to have an 8 year affair with your brothers wife. Note it's not a one night stand when you're drunk which would still be pretty fecking bad but 8 years of betraying your own brother.

Do you have a wife or a brother? I can't believe you actually could think something so ridiculous.

 

[redman5]

ESPN responding to criticism over Jon Champion's commentating. The LFC internet warrior brigade must have been upset and lodged a few thousand complaints.

If I come on here, I expect to read lots of posts slagging off Luis Suarez. However, I certainly don't expect a supposedly, unbiased tv commentator, to jump on the bandwagon live on air. Is he going to say the same when Bale or Young take their next dive ?

 

[kietotheworld]

If I come on here, I expect to read lots of posts slagging off Luis Suarez. However, I certainly don't expect a supposedly, unbiased tv commentator, to jump on the bandwagon live on air. Is he going to say the same when Bale or Young take their next dive ?

Er...yes.

 

[Randall Flagg]

Is it just me who loves that Cantona tackle?

Part of why he is my favourite all time player was his dark side.

But yes, many of us need to get over this Surez shite. The Evra thing was a disgrace, but I am over it now.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

I think assaulting a fan during a game is much worse than calling another player the N word. Which is pretty clearly reflected by their respective punishments (8 months for Cantona and an 8 game suspension for Suarez). You can talk about Matthew Simmons being a twat and he is, but I imagine a lot of people on this forum have shouted all sorts of abuse at footballers during a game, rightly and wrongly it's very much part of the sport.

And that's hardly the only thing Cantona ever did.

You can talk about Suarez leaving the foot in, which he does all the time and it's a scummy thing to do but it's nothing compared to this tackle by Cantona.


He got a three month ban for that tackle.

There's also various other off the field stuff Cantona did in France which I'm sure most of us know about already.

Now Cantona absolutely didn't do any of the weekly cnutish stuff that Suarez does throughout most games he plays in, but some of the individual incidents of Cantona are absolutely disgraceful.



What the actual feck. Is this a joke? You can't actually be serious.

Are you honestly suggesting it's a more morally deplorable thing to call someone the N word a few times in an isolated incident than it is to have an 8 year affair with your brothers wife. Note it's not a one night stand when you're drunk which would still be pretty fecking bad but 8 years of betraying your own brother.

Do you have a wife or a brother? I can't believe you actually could think something so ridiculous.

Agreed. People get so caught up with how bad the media makes racism storms that they lose all perspective.

Yes it is serious, but not to the same degree that physical violence or having an 8 year affair with your brothers wife is.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

If I come on here, I expect to read lots of posts slagging off Luis Suarez. However, I certainly don't expect a supposedly, unbiased tv commentator, to jump on the bandwagon live on air. Is he going to say the same when Bale or Young take their next dive ?

Would be good if they did. I despise the slagging off of foreign divers and play actors, and then silence when a British player does it.

I liked his 'That is the work of a cheat' comment, must have really got some scousers so wound up. Its not about being bias , its about seeing whats right in front of you.

 

[redman5]

Would be good if they did. I despise the slagging off of foreign divers and play actors, and then silence when a British player does it.

I liked his 'That is the work of a cheat' comment, must have really got some scousers so wound up. Its not about being bias , its about seeing whats right in front of you.

You've admitted that they treat foreign players differently. Therefore it's blatantly being biased, seeing as he wouldn't say the same about the likes of Bale & Young.

If he's going to call it as he sees it, then let's see him do it for all players irrespective of where they're from, or who they play for.

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

You've admitted that they treat foreign players differently. Therefore it's blatantly being biased, seeing as he wouldn't say the same about the likes of Bale & Young.

If he's going to call it as he sees it, then let's see him do it for all players irrespective of where they're from, or who they play for.

Its different, he is not subjected because of the team or where he comes from, he is picked out because he just seems cynical, he can IMO perform the same tackle as another player, only he invites you to think it was malicious. Everything about this player from the looks he gives and his arrogance asks for trouble, you build a reputation of being a cynical little bugger and you will get called out when your innocent, that's life.

 

[antohan]

Is it just me who loves that Cantona tackle?

Part of why he is my favourite all time player was his dark side.

But yes, many of us need to get over this Surez shite. The Evra thing was a disgrace, but I am over it now.

And that, in a nutshell is the scouser excuse for Suarez' actions. It's not that you enjoy the actions when the dark side turns up, more a case that you appreciate the character, the mentality, the will to win behind them...

Suarez could in theory cut all the crap, but it is an integral part of his game and his never-say-die commitment. If cutting the crap meant losing that fire in his belly you as a supporter would have none of it. How many times have we felt Keane let us down by getting red carded unnecessarily? Yet we wouldn't ever want him to lose his aggression, would we?

BTW, as pointed out earlier, Cantona does stand up and own up immediately, rather than roll around faking he got hurt as well. And that's why Suarez gets called a cheat, while no one in their right mind would refer to Cantona as a cheat.

 

[Ruud10]

Rodgers has probably seen it once, you've probably seen it 100 times from different angles

I've only seen the same angles everyone else has. And I'm sure a manager gets in a quality look after the game.

You can forgive the ref for missing it. Shit happens and sometimes bad refereeing goes our way too.

But you just can't watch the video and not notice the movement of the hand to the ball and where suarez's eyes are. It's not even a close call.

All the other stuff we're talking about here...his racist abuse, biting and whatnot...is old news. It's not completely irrelevant to judging the man's character, but I don't see the point of going over this old ground.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

I think assaulting a fan during a game is much worse than calling another player the N word. Which is pretty clearly reflected by their respective punishments (8 months for Cantona and an 8 game suspension for Suarez). You can talk about Matthew Simmons being a twat and he is, but I imagine a lot of people on this forum have shouted all sorts of abuse at footballers during a game, rightly and wrongly it's very much part of the sport.

And that's hardly the only thing Cantona ever did.

You can talk about Suarez leaving the foot in, which he does all the time and it's a scummy thing to do but it's nothing compared to this tackle by Cantona.


He got a three month ban for that tackle.

There's also various other off the field stuff Cantona did in France which I'm sure most of us know about already.

Now Cantona absolutely didn't do any of the weekly cnutish stuff that Suarez does throughout most games he plays in, but some of the individual incidents of Cantona are absolutely disgraceful.



What the actual feck. Is this a joke? You can't actually be serious.

Are you honestly suggesting it's a more morally deplorable thing to call someone the N word a few times in an isolated incident than it is to have an 8 year affair with your brothers wife. Note it's not a one night stand when you're drunk which would still be pretty fecking bad but 8 years of betraying your own brother.

Do you have a wife or a brother? I can't believe you actually could think something so ridiculous.

You make some very good points there and I had forgot about that tackle.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

You've admitted that they treat foreign players differently. Therefore it's blatantly being biased, seeing as he wouldn't say the same about the likes of Bale & Young.

If he's going to call it as he sees it, then let's see him do it for all players irrespective of where they're from, or who they play for.

I mean the whole thing is not about being bias because we dislike Suarez. I am well aware that commentators are bias and it annoys me. In this case I liked it, but I would obviously like them to do it in cases when the English counterparts dive too.

 

[Adzzz]

Agreed. People get so caught up with how bad the media makes racism storms that they lose all perspective.

Yes it is serious, but not to the same degree that physical violence or having an 8 year affair with your brothers wife is.

Well that's typical eh?

 

[antohan]

But you just can't watch the video and not notice the movement of the hand to the ball and where suarez's eyes are. It's not even a close call.

The arm and hand were already very much on the ball's path anyway. Question is whether the instinct was to hit and accommodate the ball or bring his arm down and out of the way. In both cases the hand would go towards the ball (bringing down your arm backwards is way harder, counterintuitive and contrary to the way his body is positioned).

It's a split second. How many times have you watched that clip to get a definite idea of what happened? At that same speed Suarez had to react and only had one go at it.

I don't think it is anywhere near clearcut, but either way it would have had to be ruled out due to the substantial advantage resulting from it. The ref didn't pick it up, happens all the time.

 

[Hal9000]

Doing the rounds on facebook..

 

[Kraftwerker]

I think assaulting a fan during a game is much worse than calling another player the N word. Which is pretty clearly reflected by their respective punishments (8 months for Cantona and an 8 game suspension for Suarez). You can talk about Matthew Simmons being a twat and he is, but I imagine a lot of people on this forum have shouted all sorts of abuse at footballers during a game, rightly and wrongly it's very much part of the sport.

And that's hardly the only thing Cantona ever did.

You can talk about Suarez leaving the foot in, which he does all the time and it's a scummy thing to do but it's nothing compared to this tackle by Cantona.


He got a three month ban for that tackle.

There's also various other off the field stuff Cantona did in France which I'm sure most of us know about already.

Now Cantona absolutely didn't do any of the weekly cnutish stuff that Suarez does throughout most games he plays in, but some of the individual incidents of Cantona are absolutely disgraceful.



What the actual feck. Is this a joke? You can't actually be serious.

Are you honestly suggesting it's a more morally deplorable thing to call someone the N word a few times in an isolated incident than it is to have an 8 year affair with your brothers wife. Note it's not a one night stand when you're drunk which would still be pretty fecking bad but 8 years of betraying your own brother.

Do you have a wife or a brother? I can't believe you actually could think something so ridiculous.

Sorry, but racism is much worse. If Cantona was a racist, his reputation would rightly be in tatters.

I have zero sympathy for the racist in the crowd who abused Cantona. And I'd like to think not many people on here racially abuse footballers. Speak for yourself.

No point looking at ban lengths as a supposed moral compass either. Everyone knows that football hasn't come down hard enough on racism.

Suarez should've been banned for a season, ditto Terry, and a second offence should be a life ban.

The Cantona video is nasty and full of intent no doubt. But using that against him whilst ignoring the numerous documented horror tackles by Suarez is very strange. Not just with intent to injure an opponent, but to roll around and pretend to be the victim himself afterwards.

http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/10/10/Luis-Suarez-Moments.aspx

As far as I can see, Cantona is guilty of injuring an opponent and a crowd racist. Suarez is guilty of injuring opponents, racism, diving, serial cheating, feigning injury and all the while playing the victim in every incident and controversy.

Cantona doesn't have shit on him.

 

[AlwaysRedwood]

What the actual feck. Is this a joke? You can't actually be serious.

Are you honestly suggesting it's a more morally deplorable thing to call someone the N word a few times in an isolated incident than it is to have an 8 year affair with your brothers wife. Note it's not a one night stand when you're drunk which would still be pretty fecking bad but 8 years of betraying your own brother.

Do you have a wife or a brother? I can't believe you actually could think something so ridiculous.

Yeah, i am.

 

[AlwaysRedwood]

Agreed. People get so caught up with how bad the media makes racism storms that they lose all perspective.

Yes it is serious, but not to the same degree that physical violence or having an 8 year affair with your brothers wife is.

Like biting someone on the shoulder?

 

[antohan]

Like biting someone on the shoulder?

His flying tackle and roll was far worse than that TBH. It is obviously out of order but it wasn't exactly Hannibal Lecter stuff.

I mentioned it before, what people don't pick up on AT ALL is that it is 100% kept on the pitch within the 90mins. Just watch from 0:53 to 1:04 here when the whistle blows. First thing he does is go up to Bakkal and have a laugh, whether you find it funny is a different matter altogether but Bakkal himself brushed it off.

That's the sort of attitude he is used to from rivals, the same that we've seen from Mansfield's manager, keeper and goalscorer. He comes from an environment where you don't lose respect for the guy who does the sort of stuff he does, but one where you lose respect for those who go around whinging about stuff. Everyone gets 90 minutes on the pitch, if you lost tough luck.

 

[thegregster]

His flying tackle and roll was far worse than that TBH. It is obviously out of order but it wasn't exactly Hannibal Lecter stuff.

I mentioned it before, what people don't pick up on AT ALL is that it is 100% kept on the pitch within the 90mins. Just watch from 0:53 to 1:04 here when the whistle blows. First thing he does is go up to Bakkal and have a laugh, whether you find it funny is a different matter altogether but Bakkal himself brushed it off.

That's the sort of attitude he is used to from rivals, the same that we've seen from Mansfield's manager, keeper and goalscorer. He comes from an environment where you don't lose respect for the guy who does the sort of stuff he does, but one where you lose respect for those who go around whinging about stuff. Everyone gets 90 minutes on the pitch, if you lost tough luck.

He is simply trying to downplay the incident for his own selfish ends. Doesnt take a genius to work that out.

Anyway so what if its only on the pitch? What player continues their behaviour off the pitch? You cant dive or cheat when the game is over.

 

[Kraftwerker]

His flying tackle and roll was far worse than that TBH. It is obviously out of order but it wasn't exactly Hannibal Lecter stuff.

I mentioned it before, what people don't pick up on AT ALL is that it is 100% kept on the pitch within the 90mins. Just watch from 0:53 to 1:04 here when the whistle blows. First thing he does is go up to Bakkal and have a laugh, whether you find it funny is a different matter altogether but Bakkal himself brushed it off.

That's the sort of attitude he is used to from rivals, the same that we've seen from Mansfield's manager, keeper and goalscorer. He comes from an environment where you don't lose respect for the guy who does the sort of stuff he does, but one where you lose respect for those who go around whinging about stuff. Everyone gets 90 minutes on the pitch, if you lost tough luck.

It's all very well having a laugh about the biting incident, it wasn't going to cause any great mental or physical harm to the opponent.

But you can hardly racially abuse someone and just say tough luck at the end of the game. Or attempt to break someone's legs and then have a laugh about it afterwards. Oh, you're out for 5 months? Haha, tough luck mate.

 

[Ruud10]

The arm and hand were already very much on the ball's path anyway. Question is whether the instinct was to hit and accommodate the ball or bring his arm down and out of the way. In both cases the hand would go towards the ball (bringing down your arm backwards is way harder, counterintuitive and contrary to the way his body is positioned).

It's a split second. How many times have you watched that clip to get a definite idea of what happened? At that same speed Suarez had to react and only had one go at it.

I don't think it is anywhere near clearcut, but either way it would have had to be ruled out due to the substantial advantage resulting from it. The ref didn't pick it up, happens all the time.

The video that's viewable on this link...

http://theoriginalwinger.com/2013-01-06-video-luis-suarez-handball-goal-vs-mansfield-town-fa-cup

...should end any doubt that it was a deliberate use of the hand to affect the direction of the ball...a handball offense and at least a yellow card offense. (Although I'm not quite sure when a handball offense is a just a yellow card versus a red card. Since this was a deliberate handball offense to score a goal, was this not a straight red card offense?)

Whether this particular video was made available to Rodgers before he made his comments that it was not deliberate I have no idea, but seeing this video -- ground level, but actually every angle shows it clearly -- leaves no doubt.

To be more specific through words rather than just watching the stonecold evidence of the video, Suarez knocked the ball down to the ground with his hand, which is evident by the follow through of his hand as he directed the downward flight of the ball after his hand made contact with the ball.

I can understand the argument that the ball hit Suarez's hand, but the analysis doesn't begin and end there, does it? What is important to discern is the use of the hand at the moment the ball strikes the hand, in order to discern intent.

If the ball genuinely hits my hand and then I move my hand toward the goal, directed the ball into the back of the net, it's a deliberate use of the hand and thus is a handball. The video is not ambiguous as to the follow through motion by the hand of Suarez after the ball and hand met each other. Clear as day stuff and anyone who argues otherwise simply wishes to begin the evisceration of the handball rule.

 

[lunchforthesky]

Yeah, i am.

One of the stupidest things I've seen on the internet.

 

[AlwaysRedwood]

I mentioned it before, what people don't pick up on AT ALL is that it is 100% kept on the pitch within the 90mins.

Oh, so he's only racist, a human biter, cheater and makes consistent dangerous tackles on the pitch.

Okay, good guy then.

Do you not see you are making a stereotypical defense of disgusting characters?

 

[AlwaysRedwood]

One of the stupidest things I've seen on the internet.

Yeah, because racism just stops between two people, unlike fecking your brother's wife. Racism doesn't lead anywhere or have bigger implications for society, unlike fecking your brother's wife.

Al least you had to drop down the the "stupidest" comment level to make your point, though. Solid.

 

[lunchforthesky]

Yeah, because racism just stops between two people, unlike fecking your brother's wife. Racism doesn't lead anywhere or have bigger implications for society, unlike fecking your brother's wife.

Al least you had to drop down the the "stupidest" comment level to make your point, though. Solid.

Do you have a wife?

And he called Patrice Evra a negrito during a football match. That's not quite the same as being Eugène Terre'Blanche.

 

[JakeC]

I Love the way that when it's proven Suarez is a cnut, the dippers have to dig up artifacts of a retired Man Utd player.

 

[AlwaysRedwood]

Do you have a wife?

Yes. And a brother. And a child. And a sister.

I'm actually having a different opinion than you about this subject, so why don't you put on your big boy pants and accept it like a mature human being?

 

[lunchforthesky]

Yes. And a brother. And a child. And a sister.

I'm actually having a different opinion than you about this subject, so why don't you put on your big boy pants and accept it like a mature human being?

So is paedophilia not as bad as Suarez calling Evra a negrito because it "only affects one family", how about murder?

Your logic absurd and there's no way you actually believe it.

Is Luis Suarez a worse human being than Marlon King? Because what Marlon King did "only affected" one girl and doesn't have "bigger implications for society".

 

[Xander45]

Do you have a wife?

And he called Patrice Evra a negrito during a football match. That's not quite the same as being Eugène Terre'Blanche.

Except he didn't, not once in any of the documents for that case was the word Negrito mentioned. He said negro, black and blackie.

Know that's a little thing in the scheme of what you're talking about now, but people still bringing up that he called him a negrito and how that's a word that can be used in a loving sense in Uruguay annoys me.

 

[Ruud10]

I hate Suarez the footballer as much as the next guy, but do we really have to dig up every crime he's ever committed? I don't think so. We know he's a cheating cnut shitbag but the crimes he's committed are old news now.

He's been diving recently and he's gotten away with some pretty ridiculous handballs, both of which are fodder for abusing him. But the racist abuse of Evra, his biting of whoever in the Dutch league and other shit is ancient history, isn't it?