He was retired. If he wanted to play he could have just made a phonecall or mentioned it to any number of his mates at United who were still playing for England. I don't blame any England manager for not "making a genuine attempt" (whatever that is) to bring him back.
Roy Hodgson | Appointed England Manager
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Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
With Makelele anchoring them, massive difference over a midfield duo of Gerrard-Lampard.
But yes, we armchair fans don't have the foggiest overall.
Germany will beat you easily, and every non United fan will probably blame Cleverley for that, or Rooney.
Cleverley better not get injured
Yeah, it'll be Rooney's fault. Despite Gerrard's heroic efforts, Rooney (and possibly Welbeck if he plays) will forcibly lose England the game against quite beatable opposition.
I don't expect England to win or even draw but you never know with England. One game they can be terrible, the next they can be very good defensively and grind out a win or draw.
What we realise now though is the team is average from front to back as a collective unit. Of course there is quality in there, but in an England shirt you only get it in dribs and drabs from the big names.
What we realise now though is the team is average from front to back as a collective unit. Of course there is quality in there, but in an England shirt you only get it in dribs and drabs from the big names.
I think it will be much closer than everyone thinks.
Germany are missing quite a few players including their entire first choice midfield.
That starting line up looks better than the one picked for the Chile game. 1-1 I reckon.
That's a far better team than the one that played against Chile - I'm going to quietly predict a 1-0 win...
Glad Lallana's getting another chance. Don't like the look of Gerrard-Cleverley though.
I just hope that Milner gets himself banned or something so he can't make the world cup squad.
Hodgson would still pick him, even if it meant putting him in full blackface and calling him Andros.
Shut up, you'll lose and everyone will blame Cleverley, don't ruin my predictions.
Didn't know Germany are missing so many players.
Talksport beating everyone to the punch by blaming him already. "What does Tom Cleverley do? What does he offer? Why does Hodgson always pick him?"
I think there are genuine questions to be asked about why Cleverley is starting.
You do wonder if he put in similar performances for any non CL team, would he be picked?
You do wonder if he put in similar performances for any non CL team, would he be picked?
I've noticed recently that Gough has a big downer on Welbeck too actually, which is a bit odd seeing as i don't think that Danny has ever let England down in a serious way.
Because Hodgson is making use of the entire squad, which was the purpose of these friendlies. It's all rather simple. Lampard and Wilshere played the other night. Gerrard and Cleverley play tomorrow. A younger player with legs to accommodate an older play in both instances. Cleverley is currently 5th choice behind all of Gerrard, Carrick, Wilshere and Lampard, let us not pretend he has been starting important matches in recent times.
England will win.
A German second choice XI is probably still better than anything England can muster.
fecking feck off.
gerrard playing with injections and sturridge with a niggling injury. for a friendly.
feck RIGHT OFF, ROY!
Then put money on a Germany win.
The german team took the tube to Wembley for the training......great 
Cleveley and Gerrard as a two in the middle, well will be interesting to see if it happens.
Highly doubt Mour would have played gerrard and Lampard as the two though would he, it would have been those two playing of a dm which is fine. In fact a gerrard, lamps and carrick trio probably could have worked really nicely in the past. It was just the two of them together that's much more often than not seemed unbalanced.
Nothing odd about it. Gough is a wind-up merchant who knows bugger all about football.
Interesting stat (for England):
Welbeck 20 games 8 goals.
Sturridge 8 games 2 goals.
Welbeck 20 games 8 goals.
Sturridge 8 games 2 goals.
There aren't a whole host of decent centre mids in this country anyway, so if it's one start per CM for these friendlies then it makes sense. I'm just surprised it wasn't Cleverley against Chile and Wilshere against Germany.
Hasn't Sturridge been played out wide compared to Welbeck though...?
I think Danny is the one who's been playing at the left for England in the last few matches.
Which is why he hasn't been scoring. Looking at the games he has scored in i am fairly sure he was the focal point of the attack.
Nein
His 3 England goals this season (vs. Scotland and 2 vs. Moldova) have all come from the left in a front three.
I think the attacking player with the worst scoring record is Walcott. You pick Walcott for his ability to get in behind defences and finish, yet he has scored 5 in 36 for England. That's fecking atrocious.
On recent form for England I think Welbeck should be a clear starter.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/02/roy-hodgson-unapologetic-daniel-sturridge-england
Is there a bigger twat around? What a prick.
Is there a bigger twat around? What a prick.
I was looking for this thread earlier to post that and couldn't find it. I'm not surprised Liverpool fans are pissed off.
Risking injury to "test his resolve" is beyond stupid. His priority right now should be to protect the players going to the WC. Risking derailing Sturridge's season and suggesting that he'd rather he got injured now is showing no respect for the club or the player. He is an idiot, Hodgson.
It's ridiculous. There's no way he'd try and pull that on an Arsene or a Fergie. He's a right twat and I hope he gets sacked.
Fair play, Roy.
I actually couldn't believe what I was reading. If it was a United player I'd be so pissed off.