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Liverpool will certainly play fewer games than many top teams this year, and it should help them remain fresh without too much reliance on squad depth. They will be less tired than they would be had they played more.
 

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A communication, ongoing communication, multiple communications... The same letters have slightly different nuanced meanings in different instances.

What is the plural of the singular word 'communication' if not 'communications'? I had good reason for wishing to stress a plural as laid out above. If you find that the phrase I chose did not successfully direct your attention in my intended direction, then sobeit. But there is no error in syntax or semantics there. IMO. ;)

What is true, however, is that 'less' does not mean 'fewer'. Unfortunately it is regularly employed as if it did. A pet peeve, moreso of my wife actually.
That's not a sentence.
 

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Keep it to footy chat. You can chat about grammar in the General as there is a thread for it.
The problem is that those abusing the language in these fora are unlikely to go and read the relevant threads. So it is surely worth the occasional mention here?

I would agree that it should not take over though. :angel:
 

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The problem is that those abusing the language in these fora are unlikely to go and read the relevant threads. So it is surely worth the occasional mention here?

I would agree that it should not take over though. :angel:

Hello FS. I hope you had a lovely Christmas and have a splendid 2014 (off the field).
 

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Our squad is seriously depleted at the moment. We'll have a lot of players returning near the end of January. I hope any business that we do is wrapped up early because we'll need the depth. It looks like Salah will be done early and I'd like to believe the Tello links which also say that we're close to agreeing.
 

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Liverpool will certainly play fewer games than many top teams this year, and it should help them remain fresh without too much reliance on squad depth. They will be less tired than they would be had they played more.

If you're playing well & winning matches then I doubt very much that tiredness comes into it. During United's treble winning year, the likes of G Neville, Beckham, Stam, Keane, & Yorke all played just under, or just over, 50 games that season. & that's not taking into account internationals.

Keeping key players free from injury is probably a more defining pointer as to a sides chances of success throughout a season.
 

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If you're playing well & winning matches then I doubt very much that tiredness comes into it. During United's treble winning year, the likes of G Neville, Beckham, Stam, Keane, & Yorke all played just under, or just over, 50 games that season. & that's not taking into account internationals.

Keeping key players free from injury is probably a more defining pointer as to a sides chances of success throughout a season.

I would disagree with that. If you are playing in 3 competitions, tiredness and a couple of injuries and you are in big trouble. Specifically, I recall us fielding weakened teams in all 3 competitions (FA Cup, League, Champions League) in 06-07 due to injuries and the requirement to keep players fresh for multiple games.
 

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What is true, however, is that 'less' does not mean 'fewer'. Unfortunately it is regularly employed as if it did. A pet peeve, moreso of my wife actually.
A misplaced one though (as Plech pointed out)...

'The less/fewer 'rule' was made up by a bloke called Robert Baker in 1770 - though to be fair, he introduced it less as a grammatical rule than as a style preference:

The modern arguments for the convention tend to claim it's an important distinction that serves clarity of communication. But this is patently ridiculous - most languages blithely use the same word for both count and non-count nouns, and so does English when it comes to their antonym, more:

I drink less beer these days.......I drink more beer these days
I eat fewer crisps these days....I eat more crisps these days

And in fact, less with count nouns has been an ordinary part of the English language, and used by the best writers in the English language, ever since there's been an English language:

King Alfred said:
Swa mid læs worda swa mid ma, swæðer we hit ȝereccan maȝon. ["whether we may prove it with less words or with more"]​
 

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This grammar nonsense is boring in this thread. Less or fewer (whatever you prefer) of that please.

I'm curious to see how Liverpool will do in the next few games after having a bad run of results even if it was against good teams. If they respond well to it, they'll give themselves a good chance of finishing top 4. I hope they don't. :)
 

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It ain't what you say, it's the way that you say it that really counts.
 

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Some of us have fewer need to use the English language as text, my use comes mainly through tongue and as such my grammar is fractured, reliant on auto correct. Forums are my only real need to use texted language, grammatically I suffer 25 years on from achieving A level English so feck you seagulls.
Perfect place for grammatical discussion is obviously a Liverpool thread :lol:
 

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A communication, ongoing communication, multiple communications... The same letters have slightly different nuanced meanings in different instances.

What is the plural of the singular word 'communication' if not 'communications'?* I had good reason for wishing to stress a plural as laid out above. If you find that the phrase I chose did not successfully direct your attention in my intended direction, then sobeit. But there is no error in syntax or semantics there. IMO. ;)

What is true, however, is that 'less' does not mean 'fewer'. Unfortunately it is regularly employed as if it did. A pet peeve, moreso of my wife actually.



* That is communication as a noun denoting an item or event rather than the ongoing process... as a synonym of missive, letter, signal, email, post etc, rather than overall process of information transmission.
I buy all that, including the plural communications. But I have a problem with your palette. A palette can't be restricted, surely. Limited, perhaps. Or unvaried? Lacking in diversity?

Oh, and Liverpool will finish below us. Less talent. Fewer talents too.
 

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Interesting statistics on our friends down the M62:

  • Suarez has only failed to score in five Premier League games that he's played this season. Liverpool's record in those games is L4, D1.
  • In total (including Suarez's ban), Liverpool's record in the Premier League when Suarez hasn't scored is P10, W3, D2 and L5. The three wins were all 1-0 wins.
I know it's not shocking news, but they are fecked without him, and it becomes a little clearer why they struggle in the big games when he goes missing. Who'll bite first?
 

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Interesting statistics on our friends down the M62:

  • Suarez has only failed to score in five Premier League games that he's played this season. Liverpool's record in those games is L4, D1.
  • In total (including Suarez's ban), Liverpool's record in the Premier League when Suarez hasn't scored is P10, W3, D2 and L5. The three wins were all 1-0 wins.
I know it's not shocking news, but they are fecked without him, and it becomes a little clearer why they struggle in the big games when he goes missing. Who'll bite first?
Yet in the 10 games we were without him, we won 7, drew 2, & lost 1. Including a 6-0 win at Newcastle & a 3-1 victory at Fulham. Daniel Sturridge on the other hand, has scored against 9 different teams this season. We've gone onto winning 7 & drawing 2 of those 9 matches. Our only loss in the league when both players have started together is away to Arsenal.

Hoping that we get the opportunity to see them paired up a lot more in the 2nd half of the season. Be interesting to see how the stats pan out then.
 

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Interesting statistics on our friends down the M62:

  • Suarez has only failed to score in five Premier League games that he's played this season. Liverpool's record in those games is L4, D1.
  • In total (including Suarez's ban), Liverpool's record in the Premier League when Suarez hasn't scored is P10, W3, D2 and L5. The three wins were all 1-0 wins.
I know it's not shocking news, but they are fecked without him, and it becomes a little clearer why they struggle in the big games when he goes missing. Who'll bite first?
The way he's been playing in the last couple of seasons would make any team he plays for quite a bit worse without him. They'll no doubt look to bring in some good option up front in January as they've performed above expectations and that will strengthen Rodger's hand when asking for money I'd assume
 

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If you're playing well & winning matches then I doubt very much that tiredness comes into it. During United's treble winning year, the likes of G Neville, Beckham, Stam, Keane, & Yorke all played just under, or just over, 50 games that season. & that's not taking into account internationals.

Keeping key players free from injury is probably a more defining pointer as to a sides chances of success throughout a season.

I agree with your overall point but there's not enough context in the bold bit: players were rested consistently throughout the season, even in big games. Think the Arsenal FA Cup semi - Cole dropped, Giggs and Yorke on the bench. The squad was rotated quite a lot to keep individuals fresh, but it was one or two players rather than 4-5 each time.
 

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Sturridge, Sakho, Allen, Flanagan, Johnson and Enrique all injured, Gerrard and Henderson not fully fit. Brilliant.
 

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Relax, Barney.

Anfield against teams below you in the table never was the problem. You were put in your place in the past week.
We lost to the two best sides in the league away from home, one of them who battered youse. We'll see what happens when you visit the bridge.
 

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Anfield against teams below you in the table never was the problem. You were put in your place in the past week.

TBF these are exactly the kind of games they used to feck up in the past before Suarez started putting them away for them.
 

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This is what concerns me. They just don't look like dropping points against the smaller teams
 

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Don't think there was much doubt on them beating Hull with Suarez's form. Still as has been said us being hopefully at worst 2 points of them with our first half of the season being below par and there's above, then we're not looking in a bad position, we can certainly get better, how much room do liverpool really have to improve without some good signings? Biggest concern atm is goal difference, that's worth an extra point, and if they do stay consistent it could make a difference.
 

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Ash, have you got Barney on ignore? You want me to repeat the player names coming back from injury soon?

Naheali don't worry, you'll catch us up again when we have to play City and Chelsea away within 3 days. Oh, that's right we've already done that. :) Well at least we haven't thrashed Spurs five ni......
 

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Hull City coach attacked after Liverpool FC away match

The coach had stopped in Townsend Avenue near Liverpool's Anfield stadium when it was targeted
A coach with Hull City fans on board had its windows smashed after the club's match away to Liverpool.
The coach had stopped near Liverpool's Anfield stadium after the match on New Year's Day when it was targeted.
Merseyside Police said a number of Hull fans who were on board were left "shaken" and one man reported suffering back pain.
Officers are investigating the report of criminal damage and are examining CCTV footage.
'It was pandemonium'
The attack happened in Townsend Avenue, in Anfield, at 17:35 GMT - just over half-an-hour after the match, which Liverpool won 2-0, finished.
Supt Chris Markey said: "We work closely with both clubs and the local authority at football matches so they can be enjoyed safely by all.
"I'm sure Liverpool residents would agree that it's disappointing to hear that visitors to our city have had this experience."
Steve Simpson, who was on the coach, said: "It was pretty frightening. It was pandemonium."
 

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Hull City coach attacked after Liverpool FC away match


The coach had stopped in Townsend Avenue near Liverpool's Anfield stadium when it was targeted

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A coach with Hull City fans on board had its windows smashed after the club's match away to Liverpool.
The coach had stopped near Liverpool's Anfield stadium after the match on New Year's Day when it was targeted.
Merseyside Police said a number of Hull fans who were on board were left "shaken" and one man reported suffering back pain.
Officers are investigating the report of criminal damage and are examining CCTV footage.
'It was pandemonium'
The attack happened in Townsend Avenue, in Anfield, at 17:35 GMT - just over half-an-hour after the match, which Liverpool won 2-0, finished.
Supt Chris Markey said: "We work closely with both clubs and the local authority at football matches so they can be enjoyed safely by all.
"I'm sure Liverpool residents would agree that it's disappointing to hear that visitors to our city have had this experience."
Steve Simpson, who was on the coach, said: "It was pretty frightening. It was pandemonium."
That's terrible. Hope they catch all responsible.