Well, Rodgers circumstances were harder than Martinez's at Everton. Rodgers came up with a newly promoted team and had them playing lovely football and finishing 11th (?).
And inheriting a team isn't easy as your manager clearly shows.
Who would you have as our new manager
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
And inheriting a team isn't easy as your manager clearly shows.
Depends on the manager.
Klopp, think he would be a perfect fit for the fans and the glazers. Should have been offered the job in the summer.
We will show to much loyalty to Moyes because he was Fergies pick, the exact reason why Fergie shouldn't be involved in selecting the manager.
I personally feel Fergie should have left the club completely and then come back as a director in a year or 2. The situation now is a right mess. Basically have an MD employing a mate as manager and sticking with him to the detriment of the club.
I don't want to be a club who changes manager all the time but you have to find the right manager to stick with!
We will show to much loyalty to Moyes because he was Fergies pick, the exact reason why Fergie shouldn't be involved in selecting the manager.
I personally feel Fergie should have left the club completely and then come back as a director in a year or 2. The situation now is a right mess. Basically have an MD employing a mate as manager and sticking with him to the detriment of the club.
I don't want to be a club who changes manager all the time but you have to find the right manager to stick with!
Guus Hiddink short-term. Long-term Guardiola once he is done at Bayern or Ole if he proves the success he had in Norway was no fluke by turning Cardiff around.
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Nearly time for Di Matteo, surely?
Klopp and Simeone would love to come here, people underestimate the power of money sometimes, i bet both managers would double their wages here, and would enjoy more financial support.
Anyone but Moyes.
Romantic choice: Ole, King Eric... Wow, even better if they work together
Moyes should be made aware of that. He should know that if he continues doing what he's doing now (with zero motivational skills, Everton mindset, lacking winning mentality...), he would be sacked and there are many out there lining up for the job.
And I wouldn't be surprised some managers are observing us closely and secretly making preparation in case they are being approached.
Klopp would be brilliant here.Passionate and a great technician.Ole as his assistant screaming 'fecking shoot you cnut' at Welbeck in training!
Those who think Klopp can be tempted away by money are fooling themselves. No chance he leaves Dortmund, at least for the next few seasons.
Klopp for me. He plays exciting football, signs top young footballers and he seems to be a great character.
Klopp is the perfect manager for us, everything about him and the job he's done with dortmund screams united, proven winner, quality football, charisma, intelligence and a good eye for a talent, that's a manager you can be patient with because you know he'll get you where you want to be eventually.
Nah things are changing at Dortmund, he was working miracles before but now they are losing their best players on a annual basis and find themselves dropping further and further away from Bayern. Lew is joining Bayern, Reus buyout activates this summer and there's lots of talk about Gundogan being available as well.
Klopp. Not only is he a good manager but he's also charismatic.
Why did he leave Mainz 05 then? and you honestly think he'd give up a couple of millions pay rise? i don't think so.
Pochettino strikes me as a manager who will go a long way in the game.
I think Moyes is here for the next 6 years at least regardless of how badly he does. We are just too stubbern and lack the passion to turn this around. So by then we'll probably be mid-table (if we are lucky and keep investing heavily) and probably get Sam Allerdyce who by then will have won more trophies than Moyes.
Pochettino for me.
Unless Big Sam is at Madrid by then
He still has allot to prove, we need a proven winner.
I think the Glazers would get rid of him if he repeats this season again. I think we will finish 5th or 6th, probably 6th judging by how we are playing at present. I cant imagine the Glazers being deaf to the discontent if its like this at the same time next season. Moyes has probably lost the faith of the majority of the fans now.
For me I would like to see Hiddink in charge short term (just because of his age) or possibly Queiroz till the right person is found.
Not now. But as I said, I dont see us firing Moyes till next season anyways and if Real dont win anything this year, the circus that they are, he will likely get the boot.
Brendan Rodgers.
It would be hard not to want Klopp alright, he ticks all the boxes. Getting him might be another job though.
We really dont.
I am not talking about managerial merry go rounds but we must understand that the like of Sir Alex, Wenger etc are freaks. This fixation with long reigns is something I dont get. It's a big plus, mind you but it shouldnt be one of the foremost criterias. Let Ole prove himself at a good club before we go about talking of him as the next manager. I respect what he did at Molde but he needs to do better at a bigger club.
I seriously dont understand the likes of Giggs, Ole, Neville etc being mentioned. Sentimentality is great but this isnt the time for it.
The way he talks, no chance atm. But yes, I'd take him over any other manager in the world.
In any case, he might become available couple of years down the line and seeing how things are, Moyes is here for quite some time more so it might just be a match.
I wouldn't mind giving Carlos Queiroz a go, think he would be brilliant short term.
The thing is that when ever he does become available I doubt we'd be (providing Moyes doesn't turn things around in the meantime, I still have a lot of hope) the only ones in for him.
I'd say it would be a take your pick of which ever of them big guns you want Mr Klopp, they're lining up out there for you.
Which other top job would be available? Real and City could be but that's it. If it was a choice between the 3, he'd pick us imo.
You wish!
Moyes had "David Moyes" in each of his three pre-season envelopes back in the summer.
Moyes had "David Moyes" in each of his three pre-season envelopes back in the summer.
Knowing SAF, its actually going to take a couple of seasons like this for Moyes to get the boot, that's the scary bit. Unless ofcourse we suddenly go totally bonkers and finish 10th or something but the squad's too good for that.
Lets just hope he actually buys players of Reus or Kroos's quality rather than another Fellaini. We cant afford to be set back by 100mil with average players. Atleast if Moyes does continue like this and gets the boot, the new manager will have talent to work with.
Lets just hope he actually buys players of Reus or Kroos's quality rather than another Fellaini. We cant afford to be set back by 100mil with average players. Atleast if Moyes does continue like this and gets the boot, the new manager will have talent to work with.
From the way Fergie has talked to papers and media sources I don't think we would see Moyes getting the boot any time soon.
I beg to differ when you said it is just sentimentality. I truly believe that given the chance, the like of Ole will do a good job (better than Moyes apparently now we see what happened to us in the past 6 months!). When Ole was announced Cardiff manager, my natural instinct is, he will see Cardiff as the platform for him to join United later. And he will definitely be able to prove himself as he's experienced enough (been coaching our Reserved for years after playing at the highest level football on the planet) and has always been interested in coaching/managing. He's also worked under and learned the trade from one of the best/greatest managers in the world.
Cardiff is now my second team because of Ole (well, not that I can watch their games often and necessarily but I am sure I want to follow what goes on).
Interestingly enough I just came across the Cardiff unveiling Ole media conference on youtube and watched. I thoroughly enjoyed it
You cannot doubt his passion, ambition and capability there. If you are interested, watch! (note: you are only able to hear clearly answers from Ole but not the questions post by the media but that's not important. Hearing from Ole is a breath of fresh air. He's very genuine and i can sense the power and what positive mentality he has which he can instil into his players.) Ole will be our future manager if we are lucky.
I still find it incredibly narcissistic on Ferguson's behalf that Moyes was given the job at his behest.
What an arrogant scenario that was.
All this talk of him being backed long term by Fergie is just that-Talk. Fergie has to be seen to back him. Its just to try and take the pressure off him. However no way the Glazers will stand by and accept the poor results for more than a year I would think. They are ruthless business men. No way they will continue to spent millions on transfers and pay huge wages and only get a mid-table return. Loyalty is one thing but it costing you millions a season is another. If we keep on floating around 7th we are overpaying our squad by around 100 mil a year in wages. Does anybody seriously think a bunch of leeches like the Glazers will accept losing a 100mil a year just for the sake of loyalty?
There's a lot of fickle owners around nowadays, one of them goes a season without winning a title or something and a manager like Klopp all of a sudden comes on the market there won't be a manager around that'll be safe, doesn't matter a bollix who he is. We could probably do with being in a better state than what we're currently in if we were land him though.
Just got some work now RD so I'l watch the vid later but what has Ole done to deserve the United job besides being an ex player? We talk about Moyes not having won anything and being picked just because it was SAF's decision, Ole would be similar. He hasnt proven himself on the big stage and that was the biggest concern after SAF's retirement too, that we were giving the job to someone who hadnt shown anything to deserve it. As I see it, Ole needs to either be very good with Cardiff in terms of style of play, what he gets out of the players etc for a prolonged period of time, or move to a club in the tier below us and do something good there before he can be deemed fit for our job.I beg to differ when you said it is just sentimentality. I truly believe that given the chance, the like of Ole will do a good job (better than Moyes apparently now we see what happened to us in the past 6 months!). When Ole was announced Cardiff manager, my natural instinct is, he will see Cardiff as the platform for him to join United later. And he will definitely be able to prove himself as he's experienced enough (been coaching our Reserved for years after playing at the highest level football on the planet) and has always been interested in coaching/managing. He's also worked under and learned the trade from one of the best/greatest managers in the world.
Cardiff is now my second team because of Ole (well, not that I can watch their games often and necessarily but I am sure I want to follow what goes on).
Interestingly enough I just came across the Cardiff unveiling Ole media conference on youtube and watched. I thoroughly enjoyed it
You cannot doubt his passion, ambition and capability there. If you are interested, watch! (note: you are only able to hear clearly answers from Ole but not the questions post by the media but that's not important. Hearing from Ole is a breath of fresh air. He's very genuine and i can sense the power and what positive mentality he has which he can instil into his players. Ole will be our future manager.
Seriously, its not like i dont like him. He was one of my favorite players. I absolutely love the guy but that sentimentality and affection cant be reason enough to give him the job. He needs to earn it. Positive mentality, ambition, passion etc are good but not enough to crack it at a big club like ours.