Van Piorsing
Lost his light sabre
He looked very relaxed, his appearance on the pitch was deadly like it should be... That mood and smile was very reassuring. He definitely knows something we don't, yet.
Except that's bollocks.Good thing that van Persie even when hiding is more effective than Rooney.
Van Persie scores goal every 111,6 minutes this season, Rooney every 174,3 - in all competitions. Both scored 3 goals from penalties in total. If he was commited 100%, I wouldn't know, but for a player who doesn't care and spent season sulking, he is really effective, especially if you compare it with player without who "we would be relegated this year".Except he hasn't.
How many assists this season? How many of his goals came from the penalty spot?
That's not even getting into all the other stuff you would expect from a striker that is 100% commited to the cause. The stuff that has been notable by it's absence this season. Until yesterday, anyway.
How about checking it yourself before calling my opinion bollocks?Except that's bollocks.
When I read that part I was conviced you were talking about Rooney!
I don't care if the stats show that RVP may have been better than Rooney or not - to say that he's performed better than Rooney this season is crazy. If it wasn't for Rooney for the first half of the season, we would be lower down than 7th place right now. RVP wasn't around when we were at our worst under Moyes as he was injured - Rooney had to carry the rest.How about checking it yourself before calling my opinion bollocks?
You will find quite a few ppl who will say RvP has been better. Both have been below par, but when RvP hasn't been injured he has had more good games than Rooney imo. I could also say we would have been better off with 10 men against Bayern in both legs or in our last game against Everton than with a truely terrible Rooney in thise games.I don't care if the stats show that RVP may have been better than Rooney or not - to say that he's performed better than Rooney this season is crazy. If it wasn't for Rooney for the first half of the season, we would be lower down than 7th place right now. RVP wasn't around when we were at our worst under Moyes as he was injured - Rooney had to carry the rest.
Apologies for being quite harsh in brushing your opinion aside like that, but to say he's been better than Rooney this season strikes me as crazy-talk and sheer underestimation of Rooney carrying the team this season at times.
Some interesting correlations, eh?I don't care if the stats show that RVP may have been better than Rooney or not - to say that he's performed better than Rooney this season is crazy. If it wasn't for Rooney for the first half of the season, we would be lower down than 7th place right now. RVP wasn't around when we were at our worst under Moyes as he was injured - Rooney had to carry the rest.
Apologies for being quite harsh in brushing your opinion aside like that, but to say he's been better than Rooney this season strikes me as crazy-talk and sheer underestimation of Rooney carrying the team this season at times.
I agree and understand the rest of what you said but this I find a bit strange tbh. Does it matter if he's nicer ? I think they're all cnuts tbh.This, a million times over.
RVP is the better striker, a nicer guy and a consistent big game player. Its a travesty we've given our sulking prince that £300k a week contract as well as the keys to Manchester for crying to his agent.
Where did I say he was better than Rooney this season?I don't care if the stats show that RVP may have been better than Rooney or not - to say that he's performed better than Rooney this season is crazy. If it wasn't for Rooney for the first half of the season, we would be lower down than 7th place right now. RVP wasn't around when we were at our worst under Moyes as he was injured - Rooney had to carry the rest.
Apologies for being quite harsh in brushing your opinion aside like that, but to say he's been better than Rooney this season strikes me as crazy-talk and sheer underestimation of Rooney carrying the team this season at times.
Harry Enfield. Cops in Amsterdam. Anyone remember that?His Dutch accent, i have to admit i have a little hard on whenever i hear him speak English. And i'm sure you lot do as well
I don't think anyone in their right mind would say this has been one of Rooney's best seasons. This was a season of him not being as poor by his standards of last season and more importantly was able to get some results for us despite everything else team/management.RvP is superior to Rooney in almost every single way. The only problem was his attitude this season; but lets not pretend Rooney wouldn't have done the same if SAF wasn't here and he never got his Messi-like £300k p/w wages and Moyes literally licking his arsehole. The fact RvP has had an absolutely shit season yet the stats still show he has been pretty productive say it all. This is considered to be one of Rooney's best seasons, and in all honesty it wasn't even that amazing compared to 09-11. Best of a bad bunch is what springs to mind.
Meh you're right on them all being cnuts, but I just find RvP more likeable than Rooney. Maybe I've just got fed up with the transfer requests, the sulking and the fact he was treated like he was bigger than the club under Moyes. Watch RvP's post match interview from yesterday for example - you can't help but find that excitement he holds contagious.I agree and understand the rest of what you said but this I find a bit strange tbh. Does it matter if he's nicer ? I think they're all cnuts tbh.
I've watched plenty of other Rooney interviews where he looked just as excited and happy. It holds absolutely no importance to me. People change their moods so quickly anywayMeh you're right on them all being cnuts, but I just find RvP more likeable than Rooney. Maybe I've just got fed up with the transfer requests, the sulking and the fact he was treated like he was bigger than the club under Moyes. Watch RvP's post match interview from yesterday for example - you can't help but find that excitement he holds contagious.
Why should that matter. If he is popular and has leadership qualities whilst commanding respect from his manager and his teammates he's a worthy candidate.It's a bit sad and pathetic that even in the Rvp thread the usual suspects just have to come in and whine about Rooney. As for RvP, very good little cameo last night and if he plays that way then hopefully he has a good season next year around. Giving him the captaincy as was suggested somewhere is a bit ridiculous considering he's just been here 2 seasons.
Woulndt you?? Moyes is as inspring as a table cloth.I think it is obvious RVP was "sulking" with Moyes as manager, whether one tries to defend him or not!
Incorrect. A tablecloth is always on top of the table. Moyes has never been more than a mid-table manager.Woulndt you?? Moyes is as inspring as a table cloth.
You're trolling. You have to be.Really hate that this injury-prone, sulking mercenary is a United player. Despise that Ferguson went for short term glory by signing him, betraying possibility the exciting new signing of Kagawa linking up with Rooney, who had in the season previous scored 34 goals in a terrific partnership with the excellent homegrown talent of Welbeck. Destroyed the the progress of Welbeck, Kagawa, and Chicharito, and has been a sulking disgrace this season.
Disgusting, self-indulgent signing by Ferguson. Disrupted a wonderful fluent side in the precise manner signing Berbatov in 2008 did.
You've just solved everything. Last seasons kit = tablecloth. Take away the tablecloth = no longer at the top of the table. This is all Nike's fault.Incorrect. A tablecloth is always on top of the table. Moyes has never been more than a mid-table manager.
Surely you can't be serious with this post? RVP won us the 20th title almost single handedly, he's a fantastic player. If Kagawa, Welbeck and Chicharito were good enough or Sir Alex believed they were going to be good enough, I am certain we wouldn't have signed RVP. But the fact remains RVP is our best player, to suggest he has stunted other players development is absurd, nothing wrong with having competition for places, in theory it should get the players to perform better to keep their place.Really hate that this injury-prone, sulking mercenary is a United player. Despise that Ferguson went for short term glory by signing him, betraying possibility the exciting new signing of Kagawa linking up with Rooney, who had in the season previous scored 34 goals in a terrific partnership with the excellent homegrown talent of Welbeck. Destroyed the the progress of Welbeck, Kagawa, and Chicharito, and has been a sulking disgrace this season.
Disgusting, self-indulgent signing by Ferguson. Disrupted a wonderful fluent side in the precise manner signing Berbatov in 2008 did.
Can't help but feeling you're being a bit bitter or jealous of them? *jokong*. Why on earth though it doesn't matter if someone is nice or not? RvP comes across as a nice person which is good. And I believe many of our players past and present are nice normal people (although exceptionally rich).I agree and understand the rest of what you said but this I find a bit strange tbh. Does it matter if he's nicer ? I think they're all cnuts tbh.
We have literally no-one else to give it to, should Rio and Evra not be playing next season. Giving it to the younger (even reckless) guys like Jones and Rafael is equally ridiculous. Giving to Shrek himself who has held the club to ransom not once but twice also ridiculous. Evans is the only other bet I see.It's a bit sad and pathetic that even in the Rvp thread the usual suspects just have to come in and whine about Rooney. As for RvP, very good little cameo last night and if he plays that way then hopefully he has a good season next year around. Giving him the captaincy as was suggested somewhere is a bit ridiculous considering he's just been here 2 seasons.
Quit being a e-psychiatrist The fact that I think they're all cnuts should indicate you I don't care if they're nice or not. Otherwise I would never support someone like Giggs with what he did to his family for instance, whatever they do in their private lives, whoever they really are, I honestly couldn't give a feck.Can't help but feeling you're being a bit bitter or jealous of them? *jokong*. Why on earth though it doesn't matter if someone is nice or not? RvP comes across as a nice person which is good. And I believe many of our players past and present are nice normal people (although exceptionally rich).
Amazing, really.He missed almost half the season and still managed to score 18 goals in 27 appearances.
Yeah ,he spat his dummy out until his good friend looks like being in charge.Bit of a sneaky cnut IMOHe seems very happy right now and I think we all know why.
Once he does the business next season, I couldn't care less. Yeah, he probably should have made more of an effort under Moyes, but what in all honesty had he to learn from him? it was like Justin Beiber trying to give Stevie Wonder singing lessons.Yeah ,he spat his dummy out until his good friend looks like being in charge.Bit of a sneaky cnut IMO
haha....As football fans, we are all biased... i.e. our cnuts are one or two notches better than cnuts elsewhere. We are more forgiving when it comes to the United family.Quit being a e-psychiatrist The fact that I think they're all cnuts should indicate you I don't care if they're nice or not. Otherwise I would never support someone like Giggs with what he did to his family for instance, whatever they do in their private lives, whoever they really are, I honestly couldn't give a feck.
I put most of them in the same bracket and I'm down like that.
I didn't mean to use the Giggs as anything relevant to our discussion, it was just showing you how I only care about the football played on the pitch, what affect it and nothing else.haha....As football fans, we are all biased... i.e. our cnuts are one or two notches better than cnuts elsewhere. We are more forgiving when it comes to the United family.
Your Giggs example is not relevant in this context because the word "nice" would be difficult to be use in a complicated domestic affair. If he's being abusive to his spouse then, of course he would not be regarded as a nice person. But having an affair (probably with the brother's knowledge and implicit consent?) does not affect him as a respectable footballer. *speaking with total bias of course*
I always like reading autobiographies of sportspersons I adore, and in a way it is me who wants to know the good side of these idols, how they cope, be so successful etc. More often than not, they have put in hard work and being talented helps of course. And there is always a more human side of them than you would have thought.
hmmm.... and your friends would be right! I guess you are only interested in the footballing side of Man United. One of the reasons by I like reading autobiographies maybe because of my personal interest. I was competitive in playing sports (still competitive now but have other priorities in life ) so I am always interested in top sportsmen/women's (and successful people generally) stories, which are inspirational.I didn't mean to use the Giggs as anything relevant to our discussion, it was just showing you how I only care about the football played on the pitch, what affect it and nothing else.
Unlike you I rarely interest myself in their lives, I never a footballer's autobiography and I hope to never will. Their human side is there obviously and most of the time it is really something that never interests me. My friends call me "robot fan".
Haha... Well said!Incorrect. A tablecloth is always on top of the table. Moyes has never been more than a mid-table manager.
When did he spit his dummy out and what did he do? Or like with Rio and all of the unnecessary shit he's been given this season, does the boot just fit?Yeah ,he spat his dummy out until his good friend looks like being in charge.Bit of a sneaky cnut IMO