Suarez bites | "sorry for falling into him and biting him and that"

[bpet15]

Oh come on, let's not be so paranoid.

Fifa would still make the cash, and the cash is already been made regardless if they fine Suarez or not. There's too many people watching for them to shrug this one off.

I agree they might be corrupt and all that, but to think that they would simply not fining him because they fear that Uruguay match will be watched less without Suarez... is a joke.

The TV deal has been paid long before and I don't think Suarez or no Suarez will change anything.

I'm saying they will fine him and suspend him. He is taking the shine off their event and no one is talking about the results, just this idiot.

FIFA also have a chance to somewhat help their image as a weak, player friendly organization by making an example of this nutter.

 

[Rafabio]

wtf am I listening to here

 

[INF-AMOS]

 

[Deleted member 78215]

On the one hand I hate to see people lose their jobs, their livelihoods, so him being banned for a year or so would be a shame.

On the other hand, Liverpool.

Gah, this is hard.

 

[antohan]

You won't make it to Brazil mate. Colombia will absolutely wipe the floor with you no questions asked if you play at the level you've played so far, Suarez or not.

I think it will be close tbh. I didn't give it for granted though. Ideally, it would be a Suarez-less Uruguay and at worst a Colombian having faced a tougher game. In any case, I think it is Chile that will go through.

 

[antohan]

If FIFA only ban him from internationals, I fully expect that the FA or Liverpool will also take action. He should not be playing in the premier League in two months time after missing [potentially] just one game of football.

The interesting thing is this @pending investigation@ may be just what Liverpool need to retain him this Summer...

 

[walsh]

Another angle.

 

[JustAFan]

If banning him isn't working it makes no sense to hit him with another ban. He's been made an example of multiple times.

Actually it does make sense to keep hitting him with longer more servere bans but you have to include him getting some mental health help to get his insanity under control. If the mental health professionals are not satisfied he can keep himself under control, then you don't let him on the pitch at all anymore.

 

[Rudie]

I believe B number 20 is from Hamlet's homeland.

Explains why they wouldn't be talking about the World Cup as much as a team participating in it, and an incident of biting involves a player whose domestic league is in a different country, maybe there isn't any outrage in Denmark as biting is socially acceptable. Who knows...

 

[A1X]

Another angle.

Brilliant!

 

[Deleted member 78215]

If banning him isn't working it makes no sense to hit him with another ban. He's been made an example of multiple times.

That's brilliant logic.

"Judge, locking up this serial killer will not stop his recidivism. Letting him go is the best option."

 

[Mrs Smoker]

Of course banning works. Number of Suarez bites while banned: 0. Number of Suarez bites while playing: 3.

Doh.

 

[Rudie]

If banning him isn't working it makes no sense to hit him with another ban. He's been made an example of multiple times.

Of course it does, not only to punish him but to protect other players!

Of course banning works. Number of Suarez bites while banned: 0. Number of Suarez bites while playing: 3.

Doh.

 

[Diego_Costa_CFC]

Of course banning works. Number of Suarez bites while banned: 0. Number of Suarez bites while playing: 3.

Doh.

 

[JustAFan]

It is definitely big news in the USA. They are outraged.

Seeing about the same type of coverage and response in the US that I am seeing here on the Cafe and on other websites from around the world.

 

[antohan]

I'm pretty sure a big controversy at the world cup of a player who can't stop biting people is in fact big news across the world.

You seem to make it a good thing if the media is insular and ignores other events. And are you really trying to make out the media here won't make a big deal of the England team!?

Not at all. If anything, what I've heard from back home is similar in nature, media brushing it off/under the carpet. Why? Wouldn't want to undermine him/the team or be seen attacking the poster boy. As bad as each other really.

I do find it amazing, having lived in England for 15 years, how the post mortem is done, but nothing is ever ever done about it. A big part of that must be the extent to which the media is driven by what sells TODAY. You know it too, you know the hype leading up to tournos even when absolutely NOTHING has changed from the last post-mortem. There's no follow through whatsoever. I've been hearing the stuff about changing it al from the grassroots up since the 90s FFS. And don't get me started on almost a decade of "Gerrard-Lampard can't work".

At least one thing we did get right was starting to work on a proces that contemplated all the issues Uruguayan football faced. Of course we don't set the world alight, we have 3M people, having 2-3 world class players is an achievement in itself, but we have to manage with what we have.

 

[scorgasm]

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

 

[antohan]

Yeah, it's definitely somehow Britain's fault Luis Suarez bit a player in a match between Uruguay and Italy and FIFA are considering a ban.

This is exactly why he thinks he can get away with it, every time.

eh? Where did I say that? Two separate issues there. I wasn't saying the Suarez thing is looked at to deflect from the game against Costa Rica and overall performance, I'm saying it's unfortunate it is detracting from the issues you have to address.

I'm not sure who is to blame there, the media or the fans as consumers, but it certainly is a problem that you never get to address the glaring issues with the England setup.

 

[Moonred]

What's up with Lugano? Protect just for the sake of it eh? Delusional coach and captain. As I said before, you need to be a bit special to defend him this time.

 

[Mockney]

eh? Where did I say that? Two separate issues there. I wasn't saying the Suarez thing is looked at to deflect from the game against Costa Rica and overall performance, I'm saying it's unfortunate it is detracting from the issues you have to address.

I'm not sure who is to blame there, the media or the fans as consumers, but it certainly is a problem that you never get to address the glaring issues with the England setup.

The Suarez thing won't impact on that. There'll be a post-mortem regardless. It started after the Uruguay game anyway, not a dead rubber to Costa Rica. So yes, it is two separate issues, that don't overlap at all. It seemed like a weird incongruous attack on England in a thread where your boy was getting a hammering. Sorry if I've misunderstood that, but I couldn't see why our one prominent Uruguayan poster would chose to show up and immediately criticize England for any other reason.

I also didn't think our display was "a shower of shite" as you put it. How would you know anyway, you were at the other game!?

 

[antohan]

Suarez will never change his behaviour until those who guide him actually hold him accountable for his actions. Whilst he's made the victim in every wrong-doing he does his persecution complex will only ever grow.

I said it earlier but whilst the teams he plays for are totally reliant on him they will continually bend over backwards to accomodate his behaviour. That's the situation Suarez has been in right since he was a kid, back in Uruguay and since his many examples of poor behaviour have only ever led to those who manage him going to desperate lengths to cover up his actions. He basically thinks he can get away with anything.

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/sto...nner-luis-suarez-soccer-most-beautiful-player

This is a very interesting article on Suarez and goes someway to showing why he never learns. Even at 16 the guy got away with headbutting a referee! That's stuff that at minimum should lead to a years ban, but back home people go to extraordinary lengths to cover it up and even pretend it didn't happen. If someone isn't made accountable for their actions, they never will be.

Good point. I have a hard time thinking how Tabarez could possibly address this in public. I'm pretty clear he will have a word in private, he won't let it pass, but it's hard to say different things and make the message work and spelling out how stupid that was wouldn't be helpful for him, the team, possibly even Suarez.

In a big side you don't wait for the suspension, just drop him, the message is clear to everyone, but he is unfortunately far too important.

 

[VP]

@antohan I don't know why Uruguay fans get so affronted by any Suarez criticism. Even with 3m people you're going to get a few odious wankers, you can't do anything about it. Criticize him and support the rest of the team.

 

[StressedEric]

Like with a few Liverpool fans it seemed odd to immediately deny anything had taken place. It was as if the claim was completely unbelievable and so had to be a lie. Not sure what the defence will be as Suarez makes all the movements towards Chiellini's shoulder. That 'He elbowed me in the mouth' defence is going to look laughable.

 

[peterstorey]

Actually it does make sense to keep hitting him with longer more servere bans but you have to include him getting some mental health help to get his insanity under control. If the mental health professionals are not satisfied he can keep himself under control, then you don't let him on the pitch at all anymore.

Yeah I think a sine die ban must be under consideration. Six month ban minimum and if he happens again he's gone.

 

[antohan]

Americans outraged When aren't they outraged when it doesn't apply to something they're doing themselves?

The things that go on in after/during tackles and in pileups in American football would make biters run

This I have to agree with. I think he is a fecking idiot doing that, completely unnecessary, but the twist on biting being almost subhuman and so much worse than an elbow or headbutt is odd. I understand the reincidence is an issue, obviously, but not the actual act being such a big deal or particularly dangerous relative to an elbow on the temple.

There wasn't a single game of rugby when I wasn't bitten at least once. I don't consider rugby dirty, I think it's a great physical sport with loads of excellent values it engenders, but biting is a common occurrence and I never once thought much about it other than "bastard got me to loosen my grip on the ball, fair fecks".

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

 

[Mockney]

Is that an issue FIFA really needs to address? Potential photoshopping on social media?

 

[Zak Smith]

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

Well we can now completely ignore anything else that twitter account has to say on the matter

 

[swooshboy]

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

Wow - think they have appointed RAWK as their defence counsel.

They can't be so stupid, surely?

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

Yeah I think a sine die ban must be under consideration. Six month ban minimum and if he happens again he's gone.

Or get his front teeth pulled.

 

[SalfordRed1960]

Eh?

"Outraged" is too strong. Maybe bemusement for a few seconds... "Who does that" comments. Followed by discussion about the other games.

Well in Florida where I live it was on the sports channel nearly all night.

I am now in Texas on the way to Calgary and there are constant news updates and talks with Psychologist and football players who have played around the world for comment.

I don't think anyone has mentioned it as amusing. Total disbelief is probably more accurate.

 

[The Man Himself]

On the one hand I hate to see people lose their jobs, their livelihoods, so him being banned for a year or so would be a shame.

On the other hand, Liverpool.

Gah, this is hard.

What? Ridiculous point

1) He has brought it on himself by own actions
2) In any other field, you bite your co-worker not once, not once twice, but thrice, you won't get job ANYWHERE in that field
3) Liverpool pay his wages and might still pay him even if his banned by fining maybe for few weeks
4) He is mulch-millionaire and this hardly matters to him financially

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Is that an issue FIFA really needs to address? Potential photoshopping on social media?

Their 'case' will be that there was "no bite."

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Well we can now completely ignore anything else that twitter account has to say on the matter

It's a newspaper account.

 

[SalfordRed1960]

Actually it does make sense to keep hitting him with longer more servere bans but you have to include him getting some mental health help to get his insanity under control. If the mental health professionals are not satisfied he can keep himself under control, then you don't let him on the pitch at all anymore.

If he doesn't get paid by Uruguay a ban probably has no effect. Wonder if Ajax or Liverpool paid him when he was banned?

 

[Mrs Smoker]

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

Fun fact. "REAL" one was altered.

This AS magazine is run by idiots?

 

[Ruht]

Are they for real? The photo was altered? There was no bite? Blimey! Uruguay are quickly becoming a very dislikable lot in my eyes.

 

[The Man Himself]

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

Is AS THAT stupid? Obviously even someone as moronic as FIFA too won't be picking the photos or video clips from social media but from their official tapes and all those cameras and technology they have installed?

 

[Maccaa]

Has Suarez came out and said anything about this?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Why would anyone be surprised? Their captain is already on record stating that no bite happened.

Sounds like it will go well for them.

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date