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Raoul

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A post every 5 minutes just after a game? That's really the explanation you're going to stick with is it?

Ok then. How about you stick to talking about the points and leaving my posting rate to me? Thanks.
There's an ignore function. Use it.
 

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Calm, composed and hardly makes mistakes. Maybe should have cleared the ball (for the chance that lead to Campbell, miscommunication but that will occur when defences change so often).

Ive been at most ease when hes played CB this season.

Liked his movement out of the back four moving into midfield. There was plenty of space for him to run into, wish he had kept going for a few.
Something ive wished Smalling would have done a few times. He does it with ease.
 

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Very impressive the way he's slotted into the team without problem whenever he's been called upon. Seems quite a mature and composed player considering his age and lack of experience.
 

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Very impressive the way he's slotted into the team without problem whenever he's been called upon. Seems quite a mature and composed player considering his age and lack of experience.
Agreed. Another year or two of experience and he could be quite a player.
 

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Agreed. Another year or two of experience and he could be quite a player.
Hopefully, although I remember thinking similar about Smalling when we signed him (even though he'd had more experience at this level) and his progress has really stalled. Hopefully the same won't happen with McNair though. LVG trusting him has been one of the things he's really done right this season so far.
 

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Or just not bring it up at all in the first place? I just wanted to talk about McNair's performance. Not sure why saying a player who has made 3 first team appearances for Man Utd and otherwise been average in the reserves won't have much of a future here attracted that kind of comment.
If his performances last year along side were average then I don't know what a good performance entails.
 

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We were lucky to concede just one in both of those games, West Ham he gets a free pass for (although he has similar before the second off anyway) but against Everton he didn't do well at all.


What a strange thing to say.
He was pretty good in the West Ham game when we were down to 10 men and had to desperately defend holed up in the box. He was also excellent in the Everton one, keeping Lukaku shackled throughout the match barring one or two instances. Don't agree with you at all here.
 

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Another thing to factor in is all how relatively new the position is to him. He started as a midfielder and has gone back over the last 15/16 months. Players who are intelligent enough to do that are invaluable.
 

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I am more comfortable when he brings the ball out of the defense than Smalling or Jones. A blunder today that could have been costly. Didn't have much else to do.

Did he go off injured?
 

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Looked like a precaution, As I said before, I reckon it is probably a pre-cursor to getting him to pull out of the friendlies.
 

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Very pleased by Paddy McNair. Yes, it was only Palace but he doesn't seem the deer in headlights type. He's come in and done his job very well. You can count the mistakes he's made on the fingers of one hand since the West Ham match. Also, he dribbles the ball out of defence calmly and seems to have a clear idea of where he wants to go with it. If he keeps it up McNair could become a fixture. On performances alone I don't see any reason to drop him.
 

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If his performances last year along side were average then I don't know what a good performance entails.
You have to look at reserve performances in context. The standard of performance needed to be a successful Premiership defender are those of Evans or to a lesser extent Shawcross, people who genuinely excelled at that level. Even players who did well like James Chester don't break into the Premier League easily. A few tidy, if unspectacular performances don't change this. I'm glad we have someone at the back who isn't making tonnes of mistakes but it shouldn't be ignored that his partner (be it Rojo, Blind or Carrick) have been protecting him a lot and the amount of defending they've had to do in proportion (especially in Rojo's case) doesn't get enough recognition from some.

He's not been awful (decent in fact), he's not made loads of mistakes and clearly has a good head on his shoulders. Thats fine for now, and I'd keep him in the team. But it hasn't suddenly changed the player he is.
 

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You have to look at reserve performances in context. The standard of performance needed to be a successful Premiership defender are those of Evans or to a lesser extent Shawcross, people who genuinely excelled at that level. Even players who did well like James Chester don't break into the Premier League easily. A few tidy, if unspectacular performances don't change this. I'm glad we have someone at the back who isn't making tonnes of mistakes but it shouldn't be ignored that his partner (be it Rojo, Blind or Carrick) have been protecting him a lot and the amount of defending they've had to do in proportion (especially in Rojo's case) doesn't get enough recognition from some.

He's not been awful (decent in fact), he's not made loads of mistakes and clearly has a good head on his shoulders. Thats fine for now, and I'd keep him in the team. But it hasn't suddenly changed the player he is.
It doesn't matter if he'll be a PL defender. The fact is you said he has been average in the reserves which is just down right wrong.
 

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You have to look at reserve performances in context. The standard of performance needed to be a successful Premiership defender are those of Evans or to a lesser extent Shawcross, people who genuinely excelled at that level. Even players who did well like James Chester don't break into the Premier League easily. A few tidy, if unspectacular performances don't change this. I'm glad we have someone at the back who isn't making tonnes of mistakes but it shouldn't be ignored that his partner (be it Rojo, Blind or Carrick) have been protecting him a lot and the amount of defending they've had to do in proportion (especially in Rojo's case) doesn't get enough recognition from some.

He's not been awful (decent in fact), he's not made loads of mistakes and clearly has a good head on his shoulders. Thats fine for now, and I'd keep him in the team. But it hasn't suddenly changed the player he is.
Would you put 20 pounds on him not making 100 premier league apps?
 

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It doesn't matter if he'll be a PL defender. The fact is you said he has been average in the reserves which is just down right wrong.
You're free to your opinion on his reserve performances, but if you think he's been playing to the standard that past players who have made an impact in the Premier League then I disagree, it's been nothing more than you'd expect from someone in the Man Utd U21 side for me.
 

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Very pleased by Paddy McNair. Yes, it was only Palace but he doesn't seem the deer in headlights type. He's come in and done his job very well. You can count the mistakes he's made on the fingers of one hand since the West Ham match. Also, he dribbles the ball out of defence calmly and seems to have a clear idea of where he wants to go with it. If he keeps it up McNair could become a fixture. On performances alone I don't see any reason to drop him.
I was pleased with his performance but he did mistake when he let the ball for Blind but maybe the lack of communication and experience caused that as he may heve thought that Blind as a senior player should take it. Itš like when there is some young attacking player and he sees for example rooney during his first match he is probably like Oh my god its rooney he knows best what with the ball Ill pass him and will not do the mistake and he will not shout at me that I didnt pick him instead of having a go myself.. not like Januzaj but he is lacking confidence recently btw. Back to McNair there was another chance when he let bolasie or whoever it wass cross the ball very easily. but apart that he played well and I thought for a moment that he is here for years.. looking forward to seeing from him more. hopefully he will have some steady CB partnership but it won't take long and someone will be injured again or he will be subbed by jones or smalling, more senior players.. Va Gaal cant take risks even he may be a good and better option than to pick some other palyers(Smalling red etc.) he is under pressure. We need to pick points and lot of people would blame him if he "risked" McNair instead of Smalling for example. The same goes with RVP and Wilson..
 

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We were lucky to concede just one in both of those games, West Ham he gets a free pass for (although he has similar before the second off anyway) but against Everton he didn't do well at all.


What a strange thing to say.
Holy feck :lol: So he didn’t have Lukaku in his pocket the entire game, he didn’t stop a certain goal by producing a game saving header at West Ham? Think you’ve been watching the wrong player.
 

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Really really like this guy.
I see not one reason for him to be replaced when the others return from injury.
Fills me with more confidence than the others.

Just a well rounded centre back.
 

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Very impressive the way he's slotted into the team without problem whenever he's been called upon. Seems quite a mature and composed player considering his age and lack of experience.
Indeed, that's impressed me the most, still a long way to go though, but so far so good.
 

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Really like the cut of this lads jib. Already out performed Evans/Jones/Smalling/Blackett/Rojo for my money this season.
 

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Really like the cut of this lads jib. Already out performed Evans/Jones/Smalling/Blackett/Rojo for my money this season.
That's true and so sad.
 

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Holy feck :lol: So he didn’t have Lukaku in his pocket the entire game, he didn’t stop a certain goal by producing a game saving header at West Ham? Think you’ve been watching the wrong player.
Lukaku was playing far too deep to affect the game, his positioning was the problem. The header was great but I hadn't said otherwise. I'll end this without a condescending remark.
 

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He seems to be getting better. Though that mis communication was bad from both.
 

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Lukaku was playing far too deep to affect the game, his positioning was the problem. The header was great but I hadn't said otherwise. I'll end this without a condescending remark.
What? So McNair didn’t play well it was Lukaku that played shit? Gotcha
 

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What? So McNair didn’t play well it was Lukaku that played shit? Gotcha
Overly simplistic, intentionally so by the tone of your post.

Lukaku wasn't the problem against Everton because for some reason (either him or Martinez) he was playing at too deep. Of the threats that almost cost us the 3 points nobody handled it well apart from De Gea. That's why we almost lost.
 

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Overly simplistic, intentionally so by the tone of your post.

Lukaku wasn't the problem against Everton because for some reason (either him or Martinez) he was playing at too deep. Of the threats that almost cost us the 3 points nobody handled it well apart from De Gea. That's why we almost lost.
Did De Gea play well or were the shots he saved not good enough?
 

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This is rather strange. We've conceded just 3 goals while McNair's on the pitch for a total of 300 minutes. Now, stats like that are certainly a team effort but if he's the terrible player that he's being made out to be, the number would've been certainly much higher because you're only as strong as your weakest link.

If McNair doesn't play well = He's shite, won't play a lot of game in the league.
If McNair does play well = Well that's because the opposition sucked, he's still shite.

Cut the boy some slack. He had no first team experience prior to this season, wasn't even considered a top prospect by some academy faithful, was thrown in the deep end and has been extremely poised for someone not accustomed to playing at this level. Massive credit to his sense of purpose and resilience if nothing else. Hope he does well going forward.
 

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This is rather strange. We've conceded just 3 goals while McNair's on the pitch for a total of 300 minutes. Now, stats like that are certainly a team effort but if he's the terrible player that he's being made out to be, the number would've been certainly much higher because you're only as strong as your weakest link.

If McNair doesn't play well = He's shite, won't play a lot of game in the league.
If McNair does play well = Well that's because the opposition sucked, he's still shite.

Cut the boy some slack. He had no first team experience prior to this season, wasn't even considered a top prospect by some academy faithful, was thrown in the deep end and has been extremely poised for someone not accustomed to playing at this level. Massive credit to his sense of purpose and resilience if nothing else. Hope he does well going forward.
Yep, pretty much everything that he's been asked to do defensively he's seen it off. The miscommunication with Blind is both understandable and and an uncommon error from McNair. If he makes mistakes game after game it would be worrying, but he's not. He's been solid pretty much every time.