Bayern need to add another midfielder amidst injury crisis, they could certainly do with Herrera.Bayern wouldn't want him, so I've no idea why you're all worrying about losing him to them.
Bayern need to add another midfielder amidst injury crisis, they could certainly do with Herrera.Bayern wouldn't want him, so I've no idea why you're all worrying about losing him to them.
All those injuries and they will still stroll the league.why not? Thiago injured, Schweini too and doesnt get younger. Alonso pretty old too. They could do with a player like him.
why not? Thiago injured, Schweini too and doesnt get younger. Alonso pretty old too. They could do with a player like him.
Their injury crisis will ease, though. Schweinsteiger is back already. They'd hardly buy a midfielder just for a few months, especially an expensive one. Think they've already said as much anyway.Bayern need to add another midfielder amidst injury crisis, they could certainly do with Herrera.
Schweinsteiger has had injury problems for a while and he's not getting any younger, ditto Alonso who's only a stop gap signing. They had to play Lahm out of necessity previous season if I remember correctly. Herrera won't be very expensive if we sell him six months into his contract after giving him a handful of games, probably half the money we paid for him to Athletic would suffice.Their injury crisis will ease, though. Schweinsteiger is back already. They'd hardly buy a midfielder just for a few months, especially an expensive one. Think they've already said as much anyway.
Nothing to worry about.
Sorry, but if Bayern do fancy him, all the reason not to sell him as too valuable to us. I wouldn't be doing them any favours especially if they are sending us a cast off winger.Schweinsteiger has had injury problems for a while and he's not getting any younger, ditto Alonso who's only a stop gap signing. They had to play Lahm out of necessity previous season if I remember correctly. Herrera won't be very expensive if we sell him six months into his contract after giving him a handful of games, probably half the money we paid for him to Athletic would suffice.
Who is apart from Zidane?People overreacting as usual, he's not Zidane.
Yep. Caf over-reacting shock horror.
LvG usually tells players if he doesn't want them, I would have thought if he has said this to Ander we would have heard something from the player himself on Twitter. Ander seems very relaxed and happy, so it is bullshit.
Indeed. Just the media cashing in, as usual.I understand that LvG okay-ed the deals for Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera before he started at United. And suddenly, he doesn't like him anymore, will swap him for Shaqiri, blah blah.
Media, eh?
That's why I don't even look at the papers now. Trouble is people will insist on posting the articles on here.Indeed. Just the media cashing in, as usual.
Tom Cleverly.Who is apart from Zidane?
Aaaah! Forget about that little gem.Tom Cleverly.
They played Lahm in midfield because Guardiola likes him in midfield. I don't know why you think they'll buy when they've said they won't, but even if they did I'm sure they'd be wanting someone better than Ander Herrera. He seems to have got better since he injured himself. Since when was he good enough for Bayern?Schweinsteiger has had injury problems for a while and he's not getting any younger, ditto Alonso who's only a stop gap signing. They had to play Lahm out of necessity previous season if I remember correctly. Herrera won't be very expensive if we sell him six months into his contract after giving him a handful of games, probably half the money we paid for him to Athletic would suffice.
I would love LvG to rip into the press about this on Friday. They just love to destabalise our squad.If LVG didn't rate him, why did he rush him back for the West Brom game? Or keep playing him before the injury?
It just doesn't add up.
Its selectively believing all the negative stuff that gets on my nerves!That's why I don't even look at the papers now. Trouble is people will insist on posting the articles on here.
Precisely my point. Players in form and fitness are being preferred*. Nothing wrong with that.If LVG didn't rate him, why did he rush him back for the West Brom game? Or keep playing him before the injury?
It just doesn't add up.
That video just shows why we miss him. He looks up everytime he has the ball for the best option. not just hit and hope balls. Not frightened to get stuck in. Isn't knocked off the ball as easily as people think. Better finishing from some players and he would have a lot more assists.Also, as for the people talking about him needing to bulk up and all that nonsense. Just watch this video...
He's settled brilliantly into the PL. This bulking up nonsense is just the standard line trotted out when any smallish foreign player joins the league.
Yep. Our football has definitely suffered since he's been out of the team. I really miss the lad, he's been a joy to watch so far.That video just shows why we miss him. He looks up everytime he has the ball for the best option. not just hit and hope balls. Not frightened to get stuck in. Isn't knocked off the ball as easily as people think.
Great video there, almost forgot about how good our passing looked before the Chelsea game. Herrera's not just creative, he's pretty good at winning the ball back.Also, as for the people talking about him needing to bulk up and all that nonsense. Just watch this video...
He's settled brilliantly into the PL. This bulking up nonsense is just the standard line trotted out when any smallish foreign player joins the league.
Iniesta.Who is apart from Zidane?
Far better than Carrick? Seriously? Based on what, exactly?Aye. I think it's partly because of how Herrera has done for us, although I think he has mostly been good and should be allowed much more time to adapt. He has shown glimpses of a very good midfielder and is way better on the ball than anyone we have. There's absolutely no way he should be behind Fletcher in pecking order and he's probably far better than Carrick right now too. On current form Fellaini deserves his place.
I also think this is largely because van Gaal wants Strootman badly so he's willing to cast Herrera out in order to generate funds and open up a space and justify Strootman's transfer, even it means letting Herrera go for half the money we bought him for only a few months back.
Far better was an exaggeration but he's probably better than a 34-year old Carrick coming back from a long injury, yes.Far better than Carrick? Seriously? Based on what, exactly?
Hererra seems to be this season's Kagawa. A reputation which is increasingly out of whack with what he's actually produced on the pitch.
Just like Kagawa, you can see the potential and I really hope he ends up becoming an important player for us. Meanwhile, the reasons behind the very high rating he already has with so many on here will remain a mystery to me.
Why is that ? What's so dislikable about a cultured, high octane, technically proficient mid-felder who uses his brain before whacking the ball ?He's the sort of player you're bound to dislike mind.
Maybe not dislike but usually when there's a player most people like Pogue will feel somewhat reserved about him and it'll look like he dislikes/doesn't rate him.Why is that ? What's so dislikable about a cultured, high octane, technically proficient mid-felder who uses his brain before whacking the ball ?
The 30 odd million fee might have something to to with that, Pogue. Plus, the fact that we almost signed him before under Moyes. It's clear the club desperately wanted him. Rather Van Gaal felt the same is another story.Far better than Carrick? Seriously? Based on what, exactly?
Hererra seems to be this season's Kagawa. A reputation which is increasingly out of whack with what he's actually produced on the pitch.
Just like Kagawa, you can see the potential and I really hope he ends up becoming an important player for us. Meanwhile, the reasons behind the very high rating he already has with so many on here will remain a mystery to me.
He's strong enough on the ball and he should never ever be used with no protection in midfield, he needs Blind or Carrick next to him or else it's pointless (preferably Blind as he offers more energy).He's a very likeable player. Both in terms of personality and the way he plays the game.
Needs to pass more consistently, be a bit stronger on the ball and be more aware defensively if he wants games in central midfield though.
So you mean to say he is poorer than Rooney and Fellaini in midfield?Far better than Carrick? Seriously? Based on what, exactly?
Hererra seems to be this season's Kagawa. A reputation which is increasingly out of whack with what he's actually produced on the pitch.
Just like Kagawa, you can see the potential and I really hope he ends up becoming an important player for us. Meanwhile, the reasons behind the very high rating he already has with so many on here will remain a mystery to me.
Aye, that's the 30 million quid question. Not a reflection on how good Hererra is at football but it's really odd the way Moyes was deemed a failure yet the club still showed that much faith in his eye for a new signing. Smacks of Woody being desperate to sign someone, anyone, after the damage to his reputation last summer. Very unlikely Van Gaal was the driving force behind this move.The 30 odd million fee might have something to to with that, Pogue. Plus, the fact that we almost signed him before under Moyes. It's clear the club desperately wanted him. Rather Van Gaal felt the same is another story.
I do agree with you to an extent regarding the comparison to Kagawa though. Two clearly talented players with qualities that fans believe the team needs/needed, but nothing much shown on the pitch to show he can deliver those qualities yet.
That's obviously Van Gaal's conclusion, yes. Right now, anyway.So you mean to say he is poorer than Rooney and Fellaini in midfield?
Ah ok. Gotcha.Maybe not dislike but usually when there's a player most people like Pogue will feel somewhat reserved about him and it'll look like he dislikes/doesn't rate him.
but nothing much shown on the pitch to show they can deliver those qualities.
Another popular but untrue legend that has gathered momentum in recent months. Herrera was not a Moyes target. He was one of the players brought to David attention by erstwhile scouts who had been monitoring his (and Thiago's) progress since Spain's triumphant U-21 campaign in 2011 and (specifically in Ander and Martinez' case) - Bilbao fixtures vs United in Europa League. Fergie himself touched upon the issue in a fairly recent interview :And also the link to him being indentified as a Moyes pick(correctly) has me thinking "well Van Gaal always wanted Strootman".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...der-Herrera-as-Manchester-United-targets.htmlFerguson said: "Herrera played against us three years ago for Bilbao in the Europa League. In fairness, they gave us a right battering at Old Trafford. He’s a talented young player and we scouted him quite a lot at that time. Obviously I think they tried to get him last year but it fell through for some reason or another. He’s athletic, quite aggressive actually for a lad who has not got a great frame and he’s quite slim but he’s quite aggressive and he gets around the pitch.
Amazing how we (LvG) can reach conclusions on players who are recovering from an injury!That's obviously Van Gaal's conclusion, yes. Right now, anyway.
He's more aware of his defensive duties than Fellaini. Fellaini's trademark defensive position is somehow finding himself on the wrong side of the man despite him supposedly being a DM.He's a very likeable player. Both in terms of personality and the way he plays the game.
Needs to pass more consistently, be a bit stronger on the ball and be more aware defensively if he wants games in central midfield though.