He is a Chilean striker, brought to the NT for his goals, not overall play. Played 7 WC games with the home team that came third. Never scored a single goal.Who is this Landa Annah picked up? First search for Landa footballer in googles comes up with Leire Landa
The Second RedCafe Sheep Draft
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Don't want to start too early as it may seem as I am bigging up my players, but Landa is arguably one of the very best players ever in the World Cup history in terms of red cards per games played.Who is this Landa Annah picked up? First search for Landa footballer in googles comes up with Leire Landa
And is mainly known for being involved in several brawls/incidents, including the one which earned him his place here.
Xavi's easily as influential as anyone else in that list. No need to bring him down at all.
Aye, could easily be criticized for fielding too many cooks, so to speak. People seem to prefer formulaic teams to a large degree. Selling two typical orchestrators in one and the same set-up could be difficult. Obviously not impossible, though - depends entirely on the rest of the team, as always.
Assuming all 3 tournaments took place, there will be
Section A
Loser of 1856 European Cup (Player A)
Section B
Loser of UEFA Cup (Player B)
Loser of Cup Winners Cup (Player C)
Say, I choose Players A & B in first pick. A is pass and B is fail. Am I restricted to another player in same match of Player B (UEFA Cup) or can I move to Player C?
From your wording, I presume I can move to Player C. Can you confirm?
NM looks well-placed to use him properly. All he really needs to function is strong runners partnering him in midfield, and Tardelli fits the bill.
Agree with Gio on Xavi, he shouldn't come down and I would have him as the third best player on that list. He's getting a hard time at the moment due to his decline being so present/current, but if this was debated in 2009-2012 no one would question his place behind Charlton.
Agree on Edgar's comments on Pirlo as well - he needs to be used properly otherwise it's an issue (that's the same for Xavi and others like that though, to a lesser extent). Disagree on his place in the list and there was never a huge gap between him and Xavi both of whom trump Scholes. Heart of the Milan team which reached 3 CL finals in five years, best player along with Cannavaro when Italy won the World Cup in '06 (including being MOTM in both the semi-final and the final in which he set up two goals) and arguably the best player of the entire tournament at Euro 2012.
Agree on Edgar's comments on Pirlo as well - he needs to be used properly otherwise it's an issue (that's the same for Xavi and others like that though, to a lesser extent). Disagree on his place in the list and there was never a huge gap between him and Xavi both of whom trump Scholes. Heart of the Milan team which reached 3 CL finals in five years, best player along with Cannavaro when Italy won the World Cup in '06 (including being MOTM in both the semi-final and the final in which he set up two goals) and arguably the best player of the entire tournament at Euro 2012.
This really is a interesting criteria. I can see many managers fixing on certain year(s) and blocking each other. Certainly a multi sheep round, imo!
Staring down the barrel of the ultimate block pick, I would imagine at least about 60% of us are considering it.
As you can see lads, if you say anything bad about Pirlo, Theon gets mad.
Very, very mad.
Now you know why I picked him!
As you can see lads, if you say anything bad about Pirlo, Theon gets mad.
Very, very mad.
Now you know why I picked him!
I can see the tears already
Too good to pass up, though you know it's a certain block, huh?
Where is the manager event??
Think Skizzo said it'd be after this round
Alonso and Schweinsteiger, people really underestimate them. I was thinking of Alonso as my first pick but had to block some of the goats. My second "block" which I decided not to do wasn't picked at all though
Seriously, they are the crucial parts of some of the best teams of their generations/all time (Spain 08-12, Bayern/Germany of now) and they are rated like some mediocre players.
Yeah. .. You would be able to move to player C.
After this round
So are results for first pick at 9 tonight? Curious to see who people will go for.
Not at all, I rate them pretty highly, both of them but I just don't think they are better than the ones above them, some of them were better imo.Alonso and Schweinsteiger, people really underestimate them. I was thinking of Alonso as my first pick but had to block some of the goats. My second "block" which I decided not to do wasn't picked at all though
Seriously, they are the crucial parts of some of the best teams of their generations/all time (Spain 08-12, Bayern/Germany of now) and they are rated like some mediocre players.
The difference is they are enablers and not match winners themselves. Surrounded by good players, they elevate the teams to greatness. Total more than sum of parts and all that. So they'll always be rated below players who turn the match in a moment of magic. The enablers keep the team ticking but the "great" players can coast for 80 mins and still come up with the glory with just a sublime shot. And rightly, so.
Better player vs. Better pick. Kohler/Desailly are better picks IMO. Xavi pretty much nails your colours on a mast, similar with Pirlo vs someone like Schweini.
I do think Pirlo is pointless in a team that already has Platini. He could do anything Pirlo did, and much more of course.
I could tell, was the only reasonable explanation.As you can see lads, if you say anything bad about Pirlo, Theon gets mad.
Very, very mad.
Now you know why I picked him!
Platini and Puskas in a 442 diamond with Pirlo controling the pace of the game from deep in midfield isn't really what I'd call a natural fit. Should be interesting what players NM & Theon have in mind to complete the team.
Schwein is already better than someone like Vieira and Makelele. Alonso in the same bracket.
Pirlo and Platini aren't remotely similar in the grand scheme of things so I think you're way off there. Pirlo's always been a #6 which is nothing like Platini.
Dont think I agree with that, vieria was in a different class while makelele as a pure defensive midfielder was better as well.
This draft can feck off. Can I pick these 2? No, that one might get picked. Can I pick him with him? No, because if he's picked you're left with a relatively poor pick. What about them? Too obvious.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Given my track record this draft, I'll stick by my method and go for the obvious block. Hopefully, it's a double block!
Pick sent!
Pick sent!
I have seen both at their peak but can't fathom why Vieira should be rated higher. Schwein has done better or same with both his club and NT, whilst being as crucial player, than Vieira. English league bias is the only reason why people seem to rate the Frenchman higher IMO
Vieira is overrated on the Caf because of his rivalry with another midfielder. Much worse Bayern midfielders than Schweinsteiger had him in his pocket in CL games.
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Platini in Europe used to play deep in a similar role, while also moving up the pitch and being influential in and around the box. Adding Pirlo doesn't add playmaking and creativity, it either costs NM a defender or a player for Platini to ping balls to.
I'm not discussing this any further though. I can still remember how you destroyed that diamond side trying to shoehorn Xavi-Iniesta-Pirlo and AN other as a "creative f.a.pfest".
Horses for courses, and the importance of enablers (as EAP quite accurately puts it), is a discussion we've had several times before and we are clearly never going to agree.
Yes. Vieira never produced the kind of performances, Schwein has for Bayern and Germany during the clutch period. Keane for example, carried Ireland for sometime and also produced big performances for United in Europe.
The point on Makelele is fair, the other one ludicrous. Different level? Vieira?
I can see Balu rubbing his hands with glee, Mannschaft draft karma may yet see them recover from a poor start in the qualifiers.
Can we stop naming unpicked players?