The Second RedCafe Sheep Draft

[Cutch]

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

 

[Balu]

What about Fergie? He'd be a good sheep. Or Busby?

Fergie was too good to be a sheep in my opinion.

 

[Skizzo]

I need to take a pee. Holding it in for the results

It'll be a few minutes still. Formatting the results and doing all 3 stages together. Just waiting for the laptop to boot up.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Nope. A reason why we didn't give Ali Dia out last time. It must be someone mediocre and a very hard sell in a match. Not an outright joke.

Could take different approaches to this. If the mediocrity is too good - so to speak - it becomes unfair on those who avoided a sheep. If he's a no-mark who can do a job - then he CAN do a job.

In my opinion it's both more fun and more in the spirit of the thing if the sheep is actually a pretty shite player. You then have to work around having a pretty shite player in your squad/team - which should be part of the challenge.

Of course, this only works properly if there's quite a few sheep about - that is, a fair amount of the managers have to struggle with this.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Could take different approaches to this. If the mediocrity is too good - so to speak - it becomes unfair on those who avoided a sheep. If he's a no-mark who can do a job - then he CAN do a job.

We already have given a 'CAN do a job list' to Skizzo. I presume he will randomly allocate that in future. Add in a joke player to that and it'll be a sure 1st round loss. No point being in the draft after that.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Sheep player is supposed to be a handicap on the team. If it becomes equal to playing with 10 men, then it is not fun at all.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

I randomly found this image.

Spoiler: Block

 

[antohan]

In terms if who will set the pool of sheep, I was hoping that @Skizzo would go with an outside party to set the pool rather than the competing managers. I feel like that is the fairest way to approach this?

Me, me, me!

BTW @Chesterlestreet you shouldn't have rubbished Grant, it was fun to watch mazhar squirm.

Re: the FIG (fantastic intl gk) it's a good call particularly to feck various managers in later rounds, but keepers are usually a great source of flexibility. E.g. two players from a European final, you can get almost anyone along with a decent enough keeper.

 

[Stobzilla]

Sheep player is supposed to be a handicap on the team. If it becomes equal to playing with 10 men, then it is not fun at all.

Says he who is getting a sheep.

 

[NM]

I randomly found this image.

Spoiler: Block

 

[antohan]

Sheep player is supposed to be a handicap on the team. If it becomes equal to playing with 10 men, then it is not fun at all.

Not sure you get the definition of handicap. Agree with what you are getting at though.

 

[MDFC Manager]

I randomly found this image.

Spoiler: Block

 

[Annahnomoss]

It might be good to have a sheep that is of course crap, but one that you have some connection with or could do a job of selling.

Nope. A reason why we didn't give Ali Dia out last time. It must be someone mediocre and a very hard sell in a match. Not an outright joke.

Even last time they were way too bad in general. It should be a player with comical value but who isn't an instant loss if he plays. I was in that situation last time and playing the match is absolutely pointless at that stage. The draft is fun with sheep being a as bad as possible, but there has to be a balance between that and the matches.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Says he who is getting a sheep.

So my last ditch salvage attempt is not working

 

[Kazi]

I randomly found this image.

Spoiler: Block

What does that translate to

 

[antohan]

We already have given a 'CAN do a job list' to Skizzo. I presume he will randomly allocate that in future. Add in a joke player to that and it'll be a sure 1st round loss. No point being in the draft after that.

But you will all get a can do a job guy and, by the looks of it, most of you will have a sheep. Cancels out.

 

[Skizzo]

ROUND 1, STAGE 1 RESULTS

Annahnomoss - Fail (Di Stefano)
Stobzilla - Fail (Di Stefano)
NoPace -PASS (Nils Liedholm)
MJJ - Fail (Di Stefano)
MDFC Manager - Fail (Cruyff)
Raees - Fail (Di Stefano)
Harms - Fail (Di Stefano)
JogaBonito - Fail (Rijkaard)
Edgar Allan Pillow - Fail (Rijkaard)
VivaJanuzaj - Fail (Beckenbauer)
BorisDeLaFora - Fail - (Rijkaard)
KPS88 - PASS - (Dino Zoff)
Cutch - Fail (Cruyff)
NM - PASS - (Puskas)
Sajeev - Fail (Di Stefano)
Kazi - Fail (Beckenbauer)

ROUND 1, STAGE 2 RESULTS

MJJ - Fail (player already picked - Zoff)
Harms - Fail (player already picked - Zoff)
Raees - Fail (player already picked - Puskas)
Stobzilla - PASS (Stankovic)
Joga Bonito - Fail (Haan)
Annahnomoss - Fail (player already picked - Puskas)
MDFC Manager - Fail (player already picked - Puskas)
Edgar Allan Pillow - Fail (Sammer)
Kazi - Fail (player already picked - Zoff)
VivaJanuzaj - Fail (Sammer)
Sajeev - Fail (Haan)
BorisDeLaFora - Fail (Sammer)
Cutch - Fail (player already picked - Zoff)

ROUND 1, STAGE 3 RESULTS

Harms - PASS - (Hidegkuti)
Edgar Allan Pillow - Fail (Player already picked - Zoff)
Cutch - Fail - (Vialli)
Annahnomoss - PASS - (Guardiola)
Joga Bonito - Fail - (Zebec)
VivaJanuzaj - PASS - (Ancelotti)
Sajeev - Fail - (Zebec)
BorisDeLaFora - Fail - (Player already picked - Zoff)
MJJ - Fail - (Vialli)
Kazi - Fail - (Player already picked - Stankovic)
MDFC Manager - Fail - (Deschamps)
Raees - Fail - (Deschamps)


Players needing a sheep - 9
Edgar Allan Pillow
Cutch
Joga Bonito
Sajeev
BorisDeLaFora
MJJ
Kazi
MDFC Manager
Raees

PLAYER BLOCK LIST
Beckenbauer, Di Stefano, Cruyff, Rijkaard, Sammer, Haan, Zebec, Vialli, Deschamps

 

[antohan]

So my last ditch salvage attempt is not working

I don't think it should be considered. You can't go around changing picks after that goalie discussion. In fact, that exchange was far more gamebreaking than my alluding to a certain GOAT.

 

[Kazi]

 

[Cutch]

Unbelievable

 

[antohan]

@sajeev and @Joga Bonito blocking each other on Haan and Zebec. Should have factored that in actually, Joga being a sucker for hidden gems.

 

[Stobzilla]

Sorry mate

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Hidegkuti, Guadriola and Ancelotti in Turn 3. Amazing!

I thought Pep sneaked by Round 1.

Damn.

 

[NM]

SHEEP TIME!

 

[antohan]

Wait... so no one went for Simeone or Luis Fernandez?

 

[Chesterlestreet]

We already have given a 'CAN do a job list' to Skizzo. I presume he will randomly allocate that in future. Add in a joke player to that and it'll be a sure 1st round loss. No point being in the draft after that.

In fairness, this all depends on how tricky the upcoming rounds are. If the overall intention of the draft master is to make it hard as hell, you could easily get plenty of teams with sheep as you enter the match stage. And then it becomes a matter of luck whether you draw a sheepless team or not - and it's always a matter of luck whether you draw an obviously superior opponent.

Depending on the overall drafting it's not impossible to get away with fielding a shite player. I agree that if the latter automatically means you might as well not show up for the match, then it's pointless - but then, if this is the case, there's something wrong with the draft itself, i.e. the level of difficulty, the size of the available pool in each round, etc.

 

[Kazi]

Sorry mate

Seriously, who watched football in the 1940s

Can't believe Liedholm went in round one. And a certain Argentinian wasn't even picked.

 

[NM]

Who wants RAFA BENITEZ as a sheep?

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Zoff is the most picked player of the round

I don't think it should be considered. You can't go around changing picks after that goalie discussion. In fact, that exchange was far more gamebreaking than my alluding to a certain GOAT.

No. I didn't submit any change of picks. That would be nonsense.
By salvage attempt, I meant my arguments for a halfway decent sheep!

 

[NM]

Seriously, who watched football in the 1940s

Can't believe Liedholm went in round one. And a certain Argentinian wasn't even picked.

I was very close to going for Liedholm as a "safe" round 1 pick. It was him, Zoff or Puskas.

 

[MDFC Manager]

Ffs. I almost went for Simeone.

 

[Skizzo]

ROUND 2 CRITERIA

Select two players who were carded (red or yellow) in the same match at the World Cup.

If one of your players goes through, but the other is blocked, then you must keep the original player, but select another player booked from that match. If no other players are booked from that match, then you must select a played booked from that same round of matches. Any World Cup year counts. Finals only, no WC Qualifiers.

When you PM your picks, send me the match(es) you are referring to.

Deadline will now be 24 hours, set at 6pm GMT on January 7th.

PLAYER BLOCK LIST
Beckenbauer, Di Stefano, Cruyff, Rijkaard, Sammer, Haan, Zebec, Vialli, Deschamps​

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Wait... so no one went for Simeone or Luis Fernandez?

I thought Pep and Simeone were the successful ones in Pick 1.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Wait... so no one went for Simeone or Luis Fernandez?

Or arguably the best fullback/side back in the history of English football.

Or one of the best wingers in British football history.

 

[antohan]

but then, if this is the case, there's something wrong with the draft itself, i.e. the level of difficulty, the size of the available pool in each round, etc.

IRL it's usually the manager's fault. Just saying...

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

ROUND 2 CRITERIA

Select two players who were carded (red or yellow) in the same match at the World Cup.

If one of your players goes through, but the other is blocked, then you must keep the original player, but select another player booked from that match. If no other players are booked from that match, then you must select a played booked from that same round of matches. Any World Cup year counts. Finals only, no WC Qualifiers.

When you PM your picks, send me the match(es) you are referring to.

Deadline will now be 24 hours, set at 6pm GMT on January 7th.

PLAYER BLOCK LIST
Beckenbauer, Di Stefano, Cruyff, Rijkaard, Sammer, Haan, Zebec, Vialli, Deschamps​

You don't make it easy at all. Hell of a criteria. So much research needed.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Or arguably the best fullback/side back in the history of English football.

Or one of the best wingers in British football history.

I had them all in my list. Yet went for broke.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

@Skizzo You are getting lynched in WW now. I'll make sure of it

 

[Kazi]

I was very close to going for Liedholm as a "safe" round 1 pick. It was him, Zoff or Puskas.

I was certain Puskas and Zoff had gone in round 1. Thought it'd be one of those recent defensive midfielders that'd make up the threesome.

 

[Skizzo]

@Skizzo You are getting lynched in WW now. I'll make sure of it

i probably am anyway...not enough hours in a day for me to do everything