Heh. That too!And the lack of any actual "fachts".
Marco Pierre White used it recently in an interview.I've never thought Rafa and his 'Fachts' had a impact other than Rafa letting some stream off (I agree though that it was great and hilarious which I'm sure fans will think LVG is as well). The only time I thought these 'mind games ' had any effect was Keegan meltdown, although I still Newcastle losing the league was down to Keegan being a shite manager than him losing it on telly. But the meltdown is clearly a better story to have.
As for the word 'Fluff' is it greatly under used in today society.
Come On! Show a little bit of compassion.
Sam did his talking on the pitch alas; would that Van Gaal favoured this sort of instinctive and forceful out on the grass too, and not only when his ego feels a touch bruised.It's hardly a Rafa style everybody is against us rant, he's purely putting Sam in his place with stats to prove it.
See I think rather than being rattled like Rafa was, he will have relished being smug and explaining the situation like he did today. It's not like it's a new thing for him to act like this in a press conference. It's not like he's a nervous young manager acting out of sorts. He's beed doing this for years.The unbridled glee with which some of ye have decided our manager has lost the plot is a bit pathetic tbh.
The Rafa "fachts" thing was all about the delivery. The tremor in his voice and the way he seemed genuinely emotional. No idea if Van Gaal came across the same way but that's really all that matters. Squabbling over stats is neither here nor there. He's always been a cantankerous, confrontational git too. Even in seasons where he won league titles. So deciding that this little rant (if it was a rant) means he's somehow lost his shit completely is kind of stupid.
I'd say Keegan 'losing it on telly' was an indication as to his state of mind. Some of his decisions behind the scenes would, no doubt, have been as odd. Same goes for Benitez. Him ranting on set showed what he was feeling/acting like off set.I've never thought Rafa and his 'Fachts' had a impact other than Rafa letting some stream off (I agree though that it was great and hilarious which I'm sure fans will think LVG is as well). The only time I thought these 'mind games ' had any effect was Keegan meltdown, although I still Newcastle losing the league was down to Keegan being a shite manager than him losing it on telly. But the meltdown is clearly a better story to have.
As for the word 'Fluff' is it greatly under used in today society.
Or maybe some of the fans don't agree that the media or Big Sam was entirely wrong...See I think rather than being rattled like Rafa was, he will have relished being smug and explaining the situation like he did today. The trouble is that a lot of our fans don't like him, so they can't get behind that sort of arrogance and two fingers to the media. They'd actually like to paint a negative narrative to it.
It's just the sort of argument Ferguson used to love, he'd get a beetroot face and ban a couple of journalists and all our fans would say it's classic Fergie keeping control. Well here's Van Gaal, getting the hard stats out like most people on here do and saying "print what you like but you're wrong and here it is in writing".
No no no. NO. JUST NO. Let's worry about what opposition fans will think of it, what media will think of it and how it is same as Rafa moment even before future results are out in this case. That's where the fun lies.See I think rather than being rattled like Rafa was, he will have relished being smug and explaining the situation like he did today. It's not like it's a new thing for him to act like this in a press conference. It's not like he's a nervous young manager acting out of sorts. He's beed doing this for years.
The trouble is that a lot of our fans don't like him, so they can't get behind that sort of arrogance and two fingers to the media. They'd actually like to paint a negative narrative to it.
It's just the sort of argument Ferguson used to love, he'd get a beetroot face and ban a couple of journalists and all our fans would say it's classic Fergie keeping control. Well here's Van Gaal, getting the hard stats out like most people on here do and saying "print what you like but you're wrong and here it is in writing".
Actually, he did it in a post-match interview in a small room near the pitch. Easy mistake to make, I suppose.Sam did his talking on the pitch alas; would that Van Gaal favoured this sort of instinctive and forceful out on the grass too, and not only when his ego feels a touch bruised.
40% possession at home and scoring from a set peice which was a long ball into the box. Right on.Sam did his talking on the pitch alas; would that Van Gaal favoured this sort of instinctive and forceful out on the grass too, and not only when his ego feels a touch bruised.
Yep.See I think rather than being rattled like Rafa was, he will have relished being smug and explaining the situation like he did today. It's not like it's a new thing for him to act like this in a press conference. It's not like he's a nervous young manager acting out of sorts. He's beed doing this for years.
The trouble is that a lot of our fans don't like him, so they can't get behind that sort of arrogance and two fingers to the media. They'd actually like to paint a negative narrative to it.
It's just the sort of argument Ferguson used to love, he'd get a beetroot face and ban a couple of journalists and all our fans would say it's classic Fergie keeping control. Well here's Van Gaal, getting the hard stats out like most people on here do and saying "print what you like but you're wrong and here it is in writing".
Not to mention Fergie periodically banning individual journalists, or refusing to talk to the press altogether.See I think rather than being rattled like Rafa was, he will have relished being smug and explaining the situation like he did today. It's not like it's a new thing for him to act like this in a press conference. It's not like he's a nervous young manager acting out of sorts. He's beed doing this for years.
The trouble is that a lot of our fans don't like him, so they can't get behind that sort of arrogance and two fingers to the media. They'd actually like to paint a negative narrative to it.
It's just the sort of argument Ferguson used to love, he'd get a beetroot face and ban a couple of journalists and all our fans would say it's classic Fergie keeping control. Well here's Van Gaal, getting the hard stats out like most people on here do and saying "print what you like but you're wrong and here it is in writing".
Well I did mention that but yes that tooNot to mention Fergie periodically banning individual journalists, or refusing to talk to the press altogether.
In the current climate, that would be greeted by a hordes of people on here saying he's "lost it completely" or "done a Rafa"
Despite all evidence for this game and the season to date suggesting otherwise. We may play more long balls than we had done under Fergie but that doesn't make us a long ball team. As LVG correctly points out long ball football suggests lumping it up to our forwards which West Ham tried to do more frequently than us. Switching the play, which we do regularly, does not constitute long ball football.Or maybe some of the fans don't agree that the media or Big Sam was entirely wrong...
http://www.theguardian.com/football...sie-james-tomkins-manchester-united-west-ham?What did he say about RVP?
Do we switch the play a lot or do I regularly see Rojo Jones etc playing long balls forward, yes they may be directed out wide but we are still playing far too many long balls IMO.Despite all evidence for this game and the season to date suggesting otherwise. We may play more long balls than we had done under Fergie but that doesn't make us a long ball team. As LVG correctly points out long ball football suggests lumping it up to our forwards which West Ham tried to do more frequently than us. Switching the play, which we do regularly, does not constitute long ball football.
Oh yeah. So when I say "not to mention" I actually mean, "just to agree with"...Well I did mention that but yes that too
Yes we do switch the play a lot, especially when Rooney plays in central midfield, we just don't work it fast enough. West Ham played a higher percentage of what is deemed long ball football than we did, that's undisputable.Do we switch the play a lot or do I regularly see Rojo Jones etc playing long balls forward, yes they may be directed out wide but we are still playing far too many long balls IMO.
I always think it's a bit unfair to use Fergie as a stick to beat people with in other managers defence. Fergie did earn a degree of respect (or the right to act a tit about something tedious for a lack of better words!) Moyes and LVG haven't really earned that in their time at United so naturally people will take the piss of them if they say or do something stupid i.e. Moyes we aspire to be like City's line which I bet, whilst I doubt Fergie would ever say it, if it was said by a manager with more of a standing it wouldn't of got much of a reaction.Not to mention Fergie periodically banning individual journalists, or refusing to talk to the press altogether.
In the current climate, that would be greeted by a hordes of people on here saying he's "lost it completely" or "done a Rafa"
Think Rooney.Do we switch the play a lot or do I regularly see Rojo Jones etc playing long balls forward, yes they may be directed out wide but we are still playing far too many long balls IMO.
I'm not arguing that we played more long balls than Westham and niether did Big Sam for that matter. However we play far too many long balls for a United team IMO. Its not just switching the play too, its balls being played up to the forwards too 49.9% of our long balls were forwards.Yes we do switch the play a lot, especially when Rooney plays in central midfield, we just don't work it fast enough. West Ham played a higher percentage of what is deemed long ball football than we did, that's undisputable.
So you missed that stat that said 49.9% of our long balls were to the forwards, yes just switching the play then... 49.9% is too fecking many.Think Rooney.
And most of them came in the closing 15-20 minutes, when we did play long ball football. Still doesn't mean it's our usual style this season. It wasn't even our usual style in that particular game!I'm not arguing that we played more long balls than Westham and niether did Big Sam for that matter. However we play far too many long balls for a United team IMO. Its not just switching the play too, its balls being played up to the forwards too 49.9% of our long balls were to the forwards.
I'm not arguing that we played more long balls than Westham and niether did Big Sam for that matter. However we play far too many long balls for a United team IMO. Its not just switching the play too, its balls being played up to the forwards too 49.9% of our long balls were to the forwards.
As a statistician said on BBC Fivelive only last week, possession stats are amongst the most inappropriately cited in thee sport. West Ham could, and probably should have been comfortably in front long before we enabled the Fellaini Emergencies Device. JMO of course.40% possession at home and scoring from a set peice which was a long ball into the box. Right on.
And paying Rooney Messi like wages to play in there doing an average job embodies how our club is now run.He's effectively pulled a 'Keegan' style rant and gone a step further with documents for evidence. I hope one of those documents tells him that playing Rooney in midfield is a fecking moronic idea!
haha forwards my bad
Read it again.
Yes that was the first time I'd seen us resort to these tactics this season. Something which Moyes was crucified for doing last season. Bringing on Fellaini and getting us to go long.And most of them came in the closing 15-20 minutes, when we did play long ball football. Still doesn't mean it's our usual style this season. It wasn't even our usual style in that particular game!
So you missed the part in your previous post where you said "so do we switch the play a lot"So you missed that stat that said 49.9% of our long balls were to the forwards, yes just switching the play then... 49.9% is too fecking many.