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Leg-End

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It's all well and good saying our style of play doesn't suit him or we don't create chances for him when the guy can't do a simple task like hold up a fecking ball.

He falls over, the ball bounces off him instead of sticking, if he gets a chance he fluffs it, he gets bullied around by very average defenders, he falls over some more. What is his game exactly? Because it's not like has the pace to get in behind defences anymore, he's not a hold up player, he's not a good dribbler. I'm pretty sure 90% of strikers at this levels would play well in teams that lay on a constant flow of chances but how many of those teams actually exist?

He got a bad injury and isn't the same player anymore, it sucks but its fact.
 

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Every game he comes on and it's pretty much the same. His runs aren't great, he gets out muscled pretty easily, all in all it turns out to be pretty pointless to bring him on. Fine if we are winning but it's pretty evident by now that he's not going to help us claw a goal back.
 

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Yeah he was poor, but so was the whole fecking team, bit unfair to just target him, but then again he has been the whipping boy this season.
 

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He's shite. The worst thing is you know he's shite, but you know that by the law of averages he must have a decent game once in a while. Never fecking happens.
 

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He's barely recognisable as the guy who played at Porto and Atletico, lethal finishing from pretty much any situation.

Now it's just little bursts of movement here and there and the ball bouncing off him.
 

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The thought of him playing for us next season is a little scary. Why are we still playing him? It’s unlikely that RvP wasn’t fit for 45 minutes.
 

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I must admit, this thread has cheered me up a bit. Genuine amusement from the people still defending him. FML.
 

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It's all well and good saying our style of play doesn't suit him or we don't create chances for him when the guy can't do a simple task like hold up a fecking ball.

He falls over, the ball bounces off him instead of sticking, if he gets a chance he fluffs it, he gets bullied around by very average defenders, he falls over some more. What is his game exactly? Because it's not like has the pace to get in behind defences anymore, he's not a hold up player, he's not a good dribbler. I'm pretty sure 90% of strikers at this levels would play well in teams that lay on a constant flow of chances but how many of those teams actually exist?

He got a bad injury and isn't the same player anymore, it sucks but its fact.
I agree every time he received the ball he either falls over, gets pushed off it or just passes it straight back, he never brings runners in or turns his man, things Rooney did in the first half. He has been a total disaster for us, shouldn't even be coming on a sub.
 

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It is kind of sad really. Seeing such a great player become this.

As long as he is not in the Premier League next season I would like to see him do well for whoever he plays for.
 

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Yeah he was poor, but so was the whole fecking team, bit unfair to just target him, but then again he has been the whipping boy this season.
This isn't the only thread people are discussing poor performances in (I point you to the Blind/McNair/Valencia etc. threads)...
 

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No doubt. His strength was a big asset abroad, not so much now. His injury issues also won't have helped.

Total passenger so far. No idea why he was brought on.
I liked the idea he was played to please his (and DDGs) agent, but now that it seems DDG is on his bike I really have no answer to that mystery. He's been paid a few millions in wages since his last shot on target.
 

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Seriously, I'll take 280k a week to just fall on my ass over and over and over and over. Why are we still bothering? Look, he seems like a nice lad but why are we persisting? He won't be here next season. The punt was fun when it started but it's time to stop.
 

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It's an absolute joke. Just suck the defeat cause that second half had absolute nothing to do with him. Whether he's here or not is another matter. Probably not but People have gone completely overboard with Falcao, we took a gamble but all he's cost us his wages. Take a look at ADM who we've paid £60m for....
 

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I assume he's not far from his last game in a United shirt, as RVP nears his return to fitness. At least in replacing Falcao's 60 min sub role anyway.
 

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It's hard to see how he could be any worse. Maybe he will score an own goal that costs us CL qualification.
 

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It's an absolute joke. Just suck the defeat cause that second half had absolute nothing to do with him. Whether he's here or not is another matter. People have gone completely overboard with Falcao, he's cost us his wages. Take a look at ADM who we've paid £60m for....
It had nothing to do with him but he made no difference and contributed nothing, for 250k a week when you consistently do that it's not good enough, same goes for di Maria both are stealing a living at the moment.

He was as ever useless, no point trying to argue otherwise.
 

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:lol: this thread is absolute comedy, the team were poor today therefore the striker will suffer, Falcao wasn't terrible considering his lack of consistent game time compared to the others.

We didn't even look dangerous near the end, we didn't want to win, there really is little to say about him today because he wasn't to blame for our loss and he didn't do anything worthy of praise. We could have had a fit Diego Costa as our 9 and we still would have lost.

Fans ever in the search for players to vent their frustration on.
 

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Should not play again unless we have a major injury crisis. He's useless and couldn't buy a goal.
 

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:lol: this thread is absolute comedy, the team were poor today therefore the striker will suffer, Falcao wasn't terrible considering his lack of consistent game time compared to the others.

We didn't even look dangerous near the end, we didn't want to win, there really is little to say about him today because he wasn't to blame for our loss and he didn't do anything worthy of praise. We could have had a fit Diego Costa as our 9 and we still would have lost.

Fans ever in the search for players to vent their frustration on.
Falcao hasnt had a shot on target in over 6 hours. Nevermind a goal. That is utterly indefensible.
 

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It had nothing to do with him but he made no difference and contributed nothing, for 250k a week when you consistently do that it's not good enough, same goes for di Maria both are stealing a living at the moment.

He was as ever useless, no point trying to argue otherwise.
So you would sooner play players who will earn 50k per week and praise them even if we lose because they tried hard? It's not a question of money, it's a question of performance, today he was no poorer than the team in general, due to Falcao's performances his contract will not be renewed at the end of the season but until then as a club we must honour it. If we paid Fellaini 250k per week I do not think that would improve his performance much so it's not important right now, we know what type of player Falcao is and he needs service.

As far as the team were concerned the statement 'he made no difference and contributed nothing' could be made to most, as Louis van Gaal continually stresses this is a team game and not one of individuals, sometimes it is apparent in a good performing team a player or two have a bad game but today the team was not performing well, Falcao was not the stand out bad player on the pitch that cost us the game although reading this thread suggests he was.
 

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why do we still play him? Play someone who might actually be here next year. LVG doesn't always, or even often, impress me with his decisions.
 

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Falcao hasnt had a shot on target in over 6 hours. Nevermind a goal. That is utterly indefensible.
I'm not defending his recent performances, I'm saying criticising him as an individual makes me question what match you were watching. Do you think Falcao was considerably worse than the team in general? And if not then blame the team not the player, it is after all as our manager keeps saying a team game.

And when he headed the ball to try and lob Howard, if that's not a shot on target then you use some weird stats to measure things , even against Chelsea he hit the post from a tight angle and while not a shot on target that was very close to going in, let's not assume that is any worse than Osman's shot which De Gea caught easily but would qualify in your eyes as a shot on target.
 

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When I saw him coming on my heart sank, we were 2-0 down and LvG decided to play the 2nd half with 10 men.
 

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I'm not defending his recent performances, I'm saying criticising him as an individual makes me question what match you were watching. Do you think Falcao was considerably worse than the team in general? And if not then blame the team not the player, it is after all as our manager keeps saying a team game.
Yes. He gets knocked over every time touches him witha feather and we have a youth product in the name of Wilson who cant possibly be worse AND actually has a future here.
 

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I kind of hate myself for being very excited every time he's subbed on, or starts a game, only to roll my eyes and sigh every time he misplaces a pass or falls over. I'm certain that he'll have a great season next season, for whichever team, yet I cant really see what he brings to any team these days.
 

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why do we still play him? Play someone who might actually be here next year. LVG doesn't always, or even often, impress me with his decisions.
Because he is the other number 9 the manager feels most likely to score, the manager who observes training daily. Perhaps RVP has been injured recently or something and the manager prefers Falcao to Wilson at the moment, he still has the task of getting us top four, Liverpool by winning their game in hand are 4 points behind us now with 4 to go, I think the manager wants to make sure he is here next year before playing the players that will be!
 

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Would rather play Grimshaw up front than him, he's dire and shoudln't be nowhere near the club. We have the most overrated attacking options from all top teams
 

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Does nothing. Offers nothing. No pace. Very few runs in behind, because he doesn't have the pace to cause problems by running in behind. Doesn't cause problems physically. We were playing a lot better before he came on.

Would rather see Wilson get minutes ahead of him. Hell, I would rather play Fellaini as a striker.
 

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So you would sooner play players who will earn 50k per week and praise them even if we lose because they tried hard? It's not a question of money, it's a question of performance, today he was no poorer than the team in general, due to Falcao's performances his contract will not be renewed at the end of the season but until then as a club we must honour it. If we paid Fellaini 250k per week I do not think that would improve his performance much so it's not important right now, we know what type of player Falcao is and he needs service.

As far as the team were concerned the statement 'he made no difference and contributed nothing' could be made to most, as Louis van Gaal continually stresses this is a team game and not one of individuals, sometimes it is apparent in a good performing team a player or two have a bad game but today the team was not performing well, Falcao was not the stand out bad player on the pitch that cost us the game although reading this thread suggests he was.
No idea where you got that from to be honest, I wouldn't praise anyone today but falcao was pathetic today as he has been pretty much all the time, thats a fact whether the team has been playing well or not. Of course money matters for 250k a week he should be starting or at least be able to come on and have an impact because if he isn't that money can be spent on players that can offer that.

Anyway Whether we are paying him 250k a week or zero fact is he is useless and shouldn't be even brought on as a sub, plenty of others didn't contribute today but they have done in other games, falcao hasn't so that's why he gets criticism because it's the same rubbish even in the u21's.
 

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Yes. He gets knocked over every time touches him witha feather and we have a youth product in the name of Wilson who cant possibly be worse AND actually has a future here.
'Every Time', well I didn't watch the match you were playing.

And Liverpool will be 4 points behind us with 4 to play so sorry the manager wants to make sure his job is secure before playing our youth products :lol:

Anyway if you think Falcao was considerably worse than the team in general then there is little point in continuing this discussion, United were poor in my opinion, you must listen too much to Brentan Rodgers.
 

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'Every Time', well I didn't watch the match you were playing.

And Liverpool will be 4 points behind us with 4 to play so sorry the manager wants to make sure his job is secure before playing our youth products :lol:

Anyway if you think Falcao was considerably worse than the team in general then there is little point in continuing this discussion, United were poor in my opinion, you must listen too much to Brentan Rodgers.
Why are you laughing? Did you or I say something funny?
 

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No idea where you got that from to be honest, I wouldn't praise anyone today but falcao was pathetic today as he has been pretty much all the time, thats a fact whether the team has been playing well or not. Of course money matters for 250k a week he should be starting or at least be able to come on and have an impact because if he isn't that money can be spent on players that can offer that.

Anyway Whether we are paying him 250k a week or zero fact is he is useless and shouldn't be even brought on as a sub, plenty of others didn't contribute today but they have done in other games, falcao hasn't so that's why he gets criticism because it's the same rubbish even in the u21's.
Why was Falcao pathetic? Unless we were creating chances for fun and he was missing them?

So if money matters we must judge the players in relation to their wages and not the performance we expect of a team challenging for top four, I respectfully disagree with this notion, it's not the way to secure top four and I'm glad we have a manager that agrees with me, he has been fond of letting us know it matters not whether a player cost 5k or 50m.
 
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