Liver_bird
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Not to mention the lifetime presidential medal from the Phil Collins Appreciation Society.
It's not even a bad song.
Not to mention the lifetime presidential medal from the Phil Collins Appreciation Society.
That's just a cliché, his slip was the turning point. 3-3 was the final nail of course.I understand opposition fans making large of that but seriously .. how about the other games we fecked up in, or at the very least our strikers failing to score against Chelsea in that match ? His slip didn't cost us the title, the team's performance over 38 matches did.
3rd place in the BBC sports personality of the year awards though....Amazing achievementUnfortunately I missed out on the plastic, Mickey Mouse treble as well.
"Nice of Chelsea fans to turn up for once"Gerrard's post match interview sticking it back to Chelsea fans a bit...
I love it. But then I guess you really need to have been from the Genesis / Hawkwind / Deep Purple et al. era to appreciate PC later on.
It's not even a bad song.
The cliche is 'The Slip'. You can't discount all the other matches or our strikers failing to score against Chelsea just because as an oppo fan it suits your agenda better.That's just a cliché, his slip was the turning point. 3-3 was the final nail of course.
It appears that he's won next to nothing in almost a decade now.And how are you doing compared to this lot ?
Honours
Liverpool - Winner
League Cup: 2000/2001, 2002/2003 2011/2012
FA Cup: 2000/2001, 2005/2006
FA Community Shield: 2001, 2006
UEFA Champions League: 2004/2005
UEFA Cup: 2000/2001
UEFA Super Cup: 2001, 2005
Personal
PFA Young Player of the Year: 1995, 1996
UEFA Fair Play Award: 1997
Premier League Player of the Month: December 1995, January 1996
PFA Team of the Year: 1996
FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year (2): 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year (7): 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
EPL Player of the Month (5): Mar 2001, Mar 2003, Dec 2004, Apr 2006, Mar 2009
Standard Chartered Player of the Month Award (1): March 2012
Liverpool Top Goalscorer (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
Ballon d'Or Bronze Award (1): 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match (1): 2005
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI (3): 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Cup Final Man of the Match (1): 2006
Goal of the Season (1): 2006
England Player of the Year (1): 2007
Member of the Order of the British Empire: 2007
Honorary Fellowship from Liverpool John Moores University: 2008
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
Corrected for accuracy from what I've seen over the past few pages.Raoul oozes bitterness.
It was his "we do not let this f***ing slip now" speech, that was the beginning of the end. But you're right, it was a collective failure that led to the collapse. It's just that if you had to identify one single moment as they most significant, it would be that slip. A moment for which he will be forever remembered.I understand opposition fans making large of that but seriously .. how about the other games we fecked up in, or at the very least our strikers failing to score against Chelsea in that match ? His slip didn't cost us the title, the team's performance over 38 matches did.
I think you are just being a tad too sensitive and a protectionist.The cliche is 'The Slip'. You can't discount all the other matches or our strikers failing to score against Chelsea just because as an oppo fan it suits your agenda better.
Well obviously you can as you just did.
That doesn't sound right. I was only 7-9 during that period but I cannot for the life of me, remember Gerrard in any of the Liverpool teams during that time, unless these Young Player awards were for Youth/Reserve performances, in which case ignore meAnd how are you doing compared to this lot ?
Honours
Liverpool - Winner
League Cup: 2000/2001, 2002/2003 2011/2012
FA Cup: 2000/2001, 2005/2006
FA Community Shield: 2001, 2006
UEFA Champions League: 2004/2005
UEFA Cup: 2000/2001
UEFA Super Cup: 2001, 2005
Personal
PFA Young Player of the Year: 1995, 1996
UEFA Fair Play Award: 1997
Premier League Player of the Month: December 1995, January 1996
PFA Team of the Year: 1996
FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year (2): 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year (7): 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
EPL Player of the Month (5): Mar 2001, Mar 2003, Dec 2004, Apr 2006, Mar 2009
Standard Chartered Player of the Month Award (1): March 2012
Liverpool Top Goalscorer (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
Ballon d'Or Bronze Award (1): 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match (1): 2005
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI (3): 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Cup Final Man of the Match (1): 2006
Goal of the Season (1): 2006
England Player of the Year (1): 2007
Member of the Order of the British Empire: 2007
Honorary Fellowship from Liverpool John Moores University: 2008
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award – 3rd Place: 2005
It was a quick handshake with Gerrard avoiding eye contact ad shrugging off an attempted hugI'm hearing that Gerrard snubbed Brendan as he was subbed off. Didn't see it so most likely Facebook sillyness.
As for him dissing Chelsea fans, whatever. I don't mind a player giving a bit back.
Yeah, I thought so. Now there was a quality striker. Shame (for the Scousers) his career didn't pan out the way it should have.PFA young player of the year in 95 and 96 was Robbie Fowler.
If only more footballers did this. I'm fed up of the same old "not about me, about the team","one game at a time".Gerrard's post match interview sticking it back to Chelsea fans a bit...
Edited for accuracy.And how are you doing compared to this lot ?
Honours
Liverpool - Winner
League Cup: 2001, 2003, 2012
FA Cup: 2001, 2006
FA Community Shield: 2001, 2006
UEFA Champions League: 2005
UEFA Cup: 2001
UEFA Super Cup: 2001, 2005
Personal
Manchester City fans player of the year: 2013-14
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2001
FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year (2): 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year (7): 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2014
EPL Player of the Month (5): Mar 2001, Mar 2003, Dec 2004, Apr 2006, Mar 2009
Ballon d'Or Bronze Award (1): 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 2005
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI (3): 2007, 2008, 2009
England Player of the Year (1): 2007
Member of the Order of the British Empire: 2007
I'm not the negative one being interviewed. Pity he didn't bow out in a more dignified manner .Corrected for accuracy from what I've seen over the past few pages.
It's not a cliché. Everyone will associate Liverpool not winning in 2013-14 with his slip, and the slip will always be a defining moment of Gerrard's career. You're bonkers if you think it was a detail in that season. It was absolutely huge. Evidently hard to stomach if you're arguing its relevance a year on, but well.The cliche is 'The Slip'. You can't discount all the other matches or our strikers failing to score against Chelsea just because as an oppo fan it suits your agenda better.
Well obviously you can as you just did.
I think his Roy of the Rovers act after that slip was just as damaging.It's not a cliché. Everyone will associate Liverpool not winning in 2013-14 with his slip, and the slip will always be a defining moment of Gerrard's career. You're bonkers if you think it was a detail in that season. It was absolutely huge. Evidently hard to stomach if you're arguing its relevance a year on, but well.
If you're Michael Mann or a fan of Miami Vice it is. Personally, I've never liked pastels.
It's not even a bad song.
It doesn't matter. Once the narrative takes hold, it's what everyone remembers. Denis Law's reluctant backheel didn't technically relegate us back in 1974, but everyone remembers it that way, and there's no point trying to argue, really. As someone else said, his Roy of the Rovers act was equally damaging, but the slip was so perfect, given his "this won't slip" dramatics, that it's what most fans will remember decades on.I understand opposition fans making large of that but seriously .. how about the other games we fecked up in, or at the very least our strikers failing to score against Chelsea in that match ? His slip didn't cost us the title, the team's performance over 38 matches did.
Edited for accuracy.
Give over. Clearly his 'standard chartered player of the month award for March 2012', or his third place at 'BBC's Sports personality of the year award' are the memories that will endure for the masses.It doesn't matter. Once the narrative takes hold, it's what everyone remembers. Denis Law's reluctant backheel didn't technically relegate us back in 1974, but everyone remembers it that way, and there's no point trying to argue, really. As someone else said, his Roy of the Rovers act was equally damaging, but the slip was so perfect, given his "this won't slip" dramatics, that it's what most fans will remember decades on.
Ha ha! Yeah, can't believe he used such stellar career highlights. Then again, these are fans who regularly win the Net Spend Trophy, aren't they?Give over. Clearly his 'standard chartered player of the month award for March 2012', or his third place at 'BBC's Sports personality of the year award' are the memories that will endure for the masses.
References
@Rafateria (2015) 'Why Steven Gerrard is the Bestest, Westest Player Ever, and You're All Just Meanies', Dipper Logic Weekly, Scouse Delusion Press, Liverpool, UK [Online] Available from: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/liv...scouse-nonsense.390932/page-275#post-17493405
Rabbit ears. I love it. We'll be singing all the same songs here when you come to MLSIt sounds like the Chelsea fans got to Gerrard as he seemed pissed at them. Quite unprofessional from Slippy G imo.