Pretty sure I read somewhere a few months back that Origi went 6 months without scoring in Ligue 1 this season. Playing as an attacking player that's shockingly bad.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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So you didn't read what I said about those players then .. 4th/5th choices, both very young and showing promise, I hardly made them out to be superstars ! However if that's the spin you're putting on my words *shrugs*But to be perfectly honest, I'm fine with you believing that Ilori and Origi are strong reinforcements for Liverpool, I won't be the disappointed one.
You know he's playing poorly when even Liverpool fans aren't bigging him up at the moment.
Quick check : he's got 9 in 41 games this season (6 : 35 last and 1 : 10 the season before). He's barely turned 20 yrs old and this is only his 2nd real season so I'd hardly be willing to write off a young player, much vaunted by the Belgian national team players (Kompany et al) based on some inconsistency, what 19/20 yr is ?
To be fair his supposed 'attitude' in the second half of this season probably has more to do with his own fans lack of support and with Liverpool trying to terminate his loan and bring him over here in January. It's got to play with a young kid's head. Fans were pretty horrible - constantly booing him in matches because he missed a vital penalty against Wolfsburg, why give a 20 yr old that responsibly ? Pretty awful fan response.
Usually these arrangement with talents simply don’t work out in the EPL. He needs to play even if his performances are inconsistent/bad, but he won’t be able to do that as 3rd-4th option. It’s one of those “lets take a gamble and see if he comes good signings” that never come good until you actually trust the player. He´ll be benched most of the time until someone is injured and then people will criticize him for not being good enough.
Luckily for him that's exactly the case at Liverpool with regards to the one striker who will be ahead of him in the pecking order.
Ha ha ! Indeed. Don't know why I'm laughing
I have the same hopes for him as I did for Ibe when we recalled him at Xmas. I wanted both recalled but we didn't pay the 6 million early release clause. Shame as Origi could have had a good 6 month settling in period like Ibe has had.
Ings wouldn’t be automatically behind him and X+ Sturridge are clearly ahead of him. Furthermore Rodgers could play Sterling up front again or go back to a formation with just one central forward. Do you honestly believe, that Rodgers will have the patience to stick to Origi, if he doesn’t have an immediate impact? His job will be one the line next season, if he doesn’t reach top4. For me Origi to Liverpool looks similar to ”Zaha to United”. Yes there is always possible, that he bangs them in left, right and center, but it’s much more likely that he´ll end up like Borini.
I don't think Sterling will be there next season and Sturridge is ridiculously injury prone... I think Liverpool may well be dependent on Origi at times next season, definitely.
Can't stop myself - I've just got to come back to this post.
Goals 50% down on last season yet Defence and Midfield are our real problems ? Oh dear. You will not find a lot of takers for that postulation. Strikers are first and foremost the issue considering our main striker's love of physiotherapy, had we had any sort of decent back-up to Sturridge then we'd have finished Top 4 this season even with CL/EL football and two domestic cup runs. If it turns out to be Sturridge, A.N.Other, Ings and Origi for next season then that will be a dramatic improvement over this season's.
As far as our defence is concerned, why are most United fans so absorbed in this aspect of our team, seeing it as our major weakness ? We've only conceded 3 goals more than United this season and yet have suffered almost as badly with injuries (and suspensions); Sakho, Johnson, Flanno have all missed major chunks (or all of the season in Flanno's case) and we've had to resort to Can as a CB or RFB, which he really isn't, and two young lads who I can't imagine were brought in as first teamers (I'd have expected Moreno to challenge Johnson/Flanno for the LB slot but Manquillo to be a pure squaddie). Then there's Lovren, who's looked a lot lot better of late and may even start to pay back some of his fee next season (though not as first choice). I don't think we'll see major surgery there, a new RB and possibly a CB if Toure leaves as expected.
In midfield I'd agree that Allen is nothing more than a squad filler and with Gerrard leaving there's a major space waiting to be filled. But our best form of the season (after our abdication from the EL) coincided with Lucas sitting in front of the back three. I wouldn't worry too much about Coutinho's position, after all that is supposedly Lallana's best position and I expect he will be filling in there next season whenever the little maestro is absent. Hendo's form has been pretty horrendous of late but Lucas, New Signing, Hendo and Coutinho with Sterling / Ibe / Lallana and Markovic for the wide slots, should form a pretty good midfield. Especially if the new midfielder is the headline signing Gerrard / Carra et al. are insisting is essential.
Your last sentence is pretty funny though, considering three of the biggest failures of the season are plying their trade at OT (maybe we can give one a pass for his injuries)
God forbid. Ban that notion.
Ibe really looks a talent. Just needs to get some end product to go with his Flair. I can only remember Origi from world cup. he looked bright and certainly was a better option to Lukaku at the time but still very raw. Looks like he could replace balotelli though
I could replace Balotelli so that doesn't really mean much.
1. Actually because your magnificent side let in 5 goals against us!Can't stop myself - I've just got to come back to this post.
Goals 50% down on last season yet Defence and Midfield are our real problems ? Oh dear. You will not find a lot of takers for that postulation. Strikers are first and foremost the issue considering our main striker's love of physiotherapy, had we had any sort of decent back-up to Sturridge then we'd have finished Top 4 this season even with CL/EL football and two domestic cup runs. If it turns out to be Sturridge, A.N.Other, Ings and Origi for next season then that will be a dramatic improvement over this season's.
1. > As far as our defence is concerned, why are most United fans so absorbed in this aspect of our team, seeing it as our major weakness ? We've only conceded 3 goals more than United this season and yet have suffered almost as badly with injuries (and suspensions); Sakho, Johnson, Flanno have all missed major chunks (or all of the season in Flanno's case) and we've had to resort to Can as a CB or RFB, which he really isn't, and two young lads who I can't imagine were brought in as first teamers (I'd have expected Moreno to challenge Johnson/Flanno for the LB slot but Manquillo to be a pure squaddie). Then there's Lovren, who's looked a lot lot better of late and may even start to pay back some of his fee next season (though not as first choice). I don't think we'll see major surgery there, a new RB and possibly a CB if Toure leaves as expected.
In midfield I'd agree that Allen is nothing more than a squad filler and with Gerrard leaving there's a major space waiting to be filled. 2. > But our best form of the season (after our abdication from the EL) coincided with Lucas sitting in front of the back three. I wouldn't worry too much about Coutinho's position, after all that is supposedly Lallana's best position and I expect he will be filling in there next season whenever the little maestro is absent. Hendo's form has been pretty horrendous of late but Lucas, New Signing, Hendo and Coutinho with Sterling / Ibe / Lallana and Markovic for the wide slots, should form a pretty good midfield. Especially if the new midfielder is the headline signing Gerrard / Carra et al. are insisting is essential.
3. > Your last sentence is pretty funny though, considering three of the biggest failures of the season are plying their trade at OT (maybe we can give one a pass for his injuries)
2. 'Abdication' - sounds like something that Derek Hatton would have said. BTW you were ejected from both Euro competitions for some of the lamest footy ever. Bit like closing the door after Depay went to a better club!
3. Oh dear more La-La land stuff from a team whose manager reads stories to his players.
You Scousers are funnier than Spitting Image I will give you that...
When he slipped you were in the driving seat, one hand on the championship and you worked incredibly hard to get there, after the slip proceeded to abandon the teamwork and tried to selfishly win the match with the many long range shots he took. I'm not surprised, look at how emotional he was after the City win, a captain that's calm under pressure is preferable, now he's gone perhaps you guys can build a team that actually wins a title.
Excellent interview with Stevie :
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/watch-steven-gerrard-liverpool-farewell-9257574
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/watch-steven-gerrard-liverpool-farewell-9257574
Liverpool must be very careful in the next decision they make. Another spending spree like last summer and failing top 4 again would surely be a big financial blow. Very big decision on owner's hands of whom to trust with the budget. At the end of the day Rodgers spent a lot of money on many difference players and only Coutinho and Can can be deemed as a success.
I just don't see them having a proper spending spree, I can't see how they could afford it,.
Maybe they'll have a budget of £50 million max + player sales, from that I would think they will want shut of Ballotelli, Lambert, Lucas, Toure, Johnson, and maybe Moreno, from those they might get £10 -£15 million at best, so £65 million to replace Gerrard, and Suarez, whilst also getting 2-3 defenders, another midfielder, and a keeper.
Like you say it would be huge risk for the owners to throw money they don't have it in the hope they get top 4, so I don't think they will.
You really have to wonder why the local Scouse rag carried their main picture of Slippy with him being sent off after 40 seconds against us, rather than him lifting a cup to mark the end of his 17 year carrier. It's like MEN posting a picture of Eric's Kung Fu tackle to poster his career, never happen. Well he goes with regrets over the league and thanks to that rag with those 40 minutes framing his career. Yes, that was certainly an excellent article, thank you.
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Could someone explain me that media obsession with Stevie and portraying him like a saint, saviour, father of football..
It's the high content of Scouse that permeates the pundit masses in media land. Best avoided unless you have your Bullsh*t repellant shirt.
I bet we'll hear and read about Stevie's American carrer to no end next season. Did he play, how much did he play, where he bought a house, with which celebrety did he hang out, where did he slip and how.
I hear they had to employ a translator for his press cons. Imagine if that donkey Carra joins him over there?
Okay this was obviously made at the beginning of the season but Ive only just come across it. It's hilarious. It does have a dig at us but it's all funny.
Their rendition of Scouse is quite eery and also without any clarity!!
Its the same with big brave John Terry..two obvious cnuts they like to shove down our throats. Football media is littered with former chavs and dippers!
Yeah, when Scholes and Giggs were retiring I really cant remember media being that full of articles, interviews, everything...
The media thrive on losers. Scouse media pundits thrive on victims = Slippy. Although the Scouse Echo headlines Slippy's demise against us as their lead photo. I reckon some Manc sneaked in there!!
Yeah that's really strange, of all the pics they choosed the one of his last derby.
I will be avoiding sky sports tomorrow , feck Stevie Starfish , I`ll be glad when he has fecked off and we don`t have to see him anymore .
I do believe the emo was a scouse invention
Yeah this was my thought too. I have no problem with the media being Gerrard centric but it seems quite lopsided compared to what a few other players have gotten.
TBF Giggs got his own documentary on ITV, still that was because he became interim manager though.
Sky did a listing for him good and bad. it was not even up to what Anderson achieved. Of course his sendings off and other moments highlight a glittering career over Giggs, Scholes and a host of others.
Not that I would want them to win the PL but it might be worth it to see Gerrard weep at the sight of his beloved team winning it without him.
Scholes and Giggs were 2 of the most decorated players of all time and they never made all this fuss , they actually retired too whereas Gerrard is moving to another club . Just shows how pro Liverpool the media is .
Its pretty ridiculous, there isnt a day with at least one Gerrard article. Stevie this Stevie that, which is your favorite goal, favorite game, top 5 goals, top 5 games, this, that, its making me puke how much of it there is all around.
You guys are so sensitive. He's a great player, one of the best of the era. If you don't want to read about him, don't. No one forces you to.