De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

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  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season


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ABC writes that Madrid is not going to offer more than 25m€. If United doesn't accept they'll wait one year.
It's all bluff. Madrid will pay eventually. Perez needs a new toy this summer. Especially since Barca won the treble. Looks like De Gea is the only 'galactico' type player you can realistically get this summer, so you will pay.
 

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Make or break time, I have bet £200 that he will be at United after summer Transfer window.
 

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Right, I'm changing my vote to him staying for next season.
Probably the biggest kiss of death in this scenario but I am starting to think he's staying. All be it against his will, it seems.
 

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He made it.
Van Gaal looking on thinking "look at this prick".

In all seriousness, great work from the club, getting him back for preseason strengthens our position, I'm glad we haven't rolled over and passed him over to them.
 

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Van Gaal looking on thinking "look at this prick".

In all seriousness, great work from the club, getting him back for preseason strengthens our position, I'm glad we haven't rolled over and passed him over to them.
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Silly silly man
I'm going on holiday at the end of August and I have about £900 left to pay. So I invested £200 now for £900 total return on September 3rd. If he stays happy days, if he doesn't £200 won't make a difference to me. So the pros outweigh the cons for me.
 

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LVG looks pissed off in that vine because he's just figured out that the sick note de Gea gave him that morning was a fake.

"Dear Mr Vangle,

Please excuse me David from PE class because he wants to feck off to Madrid --- left his kit at home has a sore tummy.

Signed, Dave Eddurn Edorn Edirn Missus Dave."
 

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I'd rather keep De Gea. As it is, we might be getting a new starting CB and RB. If was change our keeper as well, that's gonna bring a lot of instability to our backline for at least the first one or two months. We cannot afford a slow start, and we don't really need that 25mil euro.

I hope he's at least professional enough to give us another great season, because that's the least we deserve from him.
 

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I'd rather keep De Gea. As it is, we might be getting a new starting CB and RB. If was change our keeper as well, that's gonna bring a lot of instability to our backline for at least the first one or two months. We cannot afford a slow start, and we don't really need that 25mil euro.

I hope he's at least professional enough to give us another great season, because that's the least we deserve from him.
I was thinking with the Euros coming up, he has to play and he has to play well wherever he is.
 

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I was thinking with the Euros coming up, he has to play and he has to play well wherever he is.
True. I also don't think he holds any ill feeling for the club, and has a genuine affection for United. I imagine he knew playing one final season here was a real possibility. I think he'd have been kicking up a fuss in the summer otherwise.
 

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If we refuse to let him go could he not buy out the remainder of his contract and go anyway? Or is that no longer a thing?
 

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If we refuse to let him go could he not buy out the remainder of his contract and go anyway? Or is that no longer a thing?
Legally it is possible but it never happens, I believe clubs have an agreement to not use the webster rule or sign players who used it.
 

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Real Madrid are just about nasty enough to be the first club to try that.
No, there is 0 chance of that happening. RM aren't stupid as that surely would lead to a long legal battle between the clubs, by the way the webster rule has been used like 3 times in world football or something.
 

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Good to see him in training having a laugh with Herrera.

I just wish he'd come out and say it how it is. Ronaldo made it clear he was staying but one day wanted to go to Madrid, which turned out to be the next season.

He should remember the fact that we stood by him when he was shite, and our brilliant coaches have made him into one of the worlds best. If he can't respect that then feck him and good riddance.
 

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If we refuse to let him go could he not buy out the remainder of his contract and go anyway? Or is that no longer a thing?
He can theoretically do that (though I am not sure if that rule is for everyone or only for players over 28). But then you know, Ramos can do the same and get 20m signing on fee from United to 'compensate' for it. And so can do many other clubs/players.

Which would make the situation shit for clubs cause for players they can get tens of millions, now will get only a few millions. And so they would be forced to give long expensive contracts.

In order to avoid that, clubs have a gentleman agreement to not do so, cause in the end the long term consequences will be far worse than the short term gains. Assuming of course that they can do that in the first place (which I am sure will be quite difficult and will need a long legal battle).
 

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Good to see him in training having a laugh with Herrera.

I just wish he'd come out and say it how it is. Ronaldo made it clear he was staying but one day wanted to go to Madrid, which turned out to be the next season.

He should remember the fact that we stood by him when he was shite, and our brilliant coaches have made him into one of the worlds best. If he can't respect that then feck him and good riddance.
It's quite clear how it is. He doesnt need to say it. Also, he could respect all that and still want the move.
 

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I am pretty indifferent now, he goes now or he stays one more year and then goes.

I am just glad United have shown some balls (up to now) and said he will only go at the right price. Will be really p*ssed if he ends up going in the next week or so for a measly 20M.
 

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Good to see him in training having a laugh with Herrera.

I just wish he'd come out and say it how it is. Ronaldo made it clear he was staying but one day wanted to go to Madrid, which turned out to be the next season.

He should remember the fact that we stood by him when he was shite, and our brilliant coaches have made him into one of the worlds best. If he can't respect that then feck him and good riddance.
He was never shite. Only complete and utter knobs such as Redknapp and other 'professional' pundits failed to see his talent when he first arrived.
 

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He was never shite. Only complete and utter knobs such as Redknapp and other 'professional' pundits failed to see his talent when he first arrived.
He wasn't shite shite, no, but he made mistake after mistake and many thought he wouldn't be suited to the Premier League - even Fergie as he played Lindegaard more.
 

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It's quite clear how it is. He doesnt need to say it. Also, he could respect all that and still want the move.
Is it? Have you seen any quotes from anyone at United or Real, or from De Gea himself? I haven't. Reliable journos have suggested he wants a move to Real and it's quite obvious there's something happening, but I wouldn't say it's clear at all. The fact he says he's calm suggests to me that although he might love to play in Madrid, near his girlfriend and in his home city, he wouldn't be devastated should he play another season at least in Manchester.

Your second point isn't really relevant to my post. I said he should show some respect for what the club did for him by coming out and saying what he wants, not by wanting to spend the rest of his career here.
 

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He can theoretically do that (though I am not sure if that rule is for everyone or only for players over 28). But then you know, Ramos can do the same and get 20m signing on fee from United to 'compensate' for it. And so can do many other clubs/players.
No, he can't. To use the Webster ruling a player has to put it in writing at the end of the season. The actual compensation figure would then go to arbitration using CAS. Even if Madrid wanted to break the "gentleman's agreement" not to use Webster clause releases, it can't now happen in DdG's case, he left it too late.

Meanwhile apparently Herrera and Mata took him to training this morning.
http://www.atresplayer.com/televisi...ue-madrid-asuma-diferencia_2015070700231.html
8 minutes in.

They also say he went home from Carrington with Valencia yesterday and the stuff about him hiding in a car on the way out was just the British press being too thick to notice what really happened.
 

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He wasn't shite shite, no, but he made mistake after mistake and many thought he wouldn't be suited to the Premier League - even Fergie as he played Lindegaard more.
SAF never questioned his suitability to the league, he just took him out of the limelight for a few games to try and ease the pressure.

His talent was obvious from the beginning, even if he was making some mistakes.
 

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Is it? Have you seen any quotes from anyone at United or Real, or from De Gea himself? I haven't. Reliable journos have suggested he wants a move to Real and it's quite obvious there's something happening, but I wouldn't say it's clear at all. The fact he says he's calm suggests to me that although he might love to play in Madrid, near his girlfriend and in his home city, he wouldn't be devastated should he play another season at least in Manchester.

Your second point isn't really relevant to my post. I said he should show some respect for what the club did for him by coming out and saying what he wants, not by wanting to spend the rest of his career here.
What is it exactly that you want him to say to make things clear? That he simply has to go and cannot stay here another day? If not and all you expect him to say is that he wants to leave, it's already quite clear without him or anyone at either club saying it.

Re the second point, Yes, I misunderstood what you meant. Now that I know what you meant, his way is more respectful to me. Coming out in public and saying he wants off would be disrespectful. He's already told the people that matter.
 

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He wasn't shite shite, no, but he made mistake after mistake and many thought he wouldn't be suited to the Premier League - even Fergie as he played Lindegaard more.
Lindegaard played 24 games combined those 2 seasons, compared with De Gea's 80 games.

De Gea was chosen as EPL best keeper in his second season here. In the first half of his first season he made a few mistakes, but he was spectacular on his second half of the season. He has been the best keeper in EPL for at least 3 seasons (I would say 3.5 seasons).
 

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No, he can't. To use the Webster ruling a player has to put it in writing at the end of the season. The actual compensation figure would then go to arbitration using CAS. Even if Madrid wanted to break the "gentleman's agreement" not to use Webster clause releases, it can't now happen in DdG's case, he left it too late.

Meanwhile apparently Herrera and Mata took him to training this morning.
http://www.atresplayer.com/televisi...ue-madrid-asuma-diferencia_2015070700231.html
8 minutes in.

They also say he went home from Carrington with Valencia yesterday and the stuff about him hiding in a car on the way out was just the British press being too thick to notice what really happened.
Ah, cheers!

Not that there was any chance of that happening anyway but this clarifies it further.
 

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Meanwhile apparently Herrera and Mata took him to training this morning.
http://www.atresplayer.com/televisi...ue-madrid-asuma-diferencia_2015070700231.html
8 minutes in.

They also say he went home from Carrington with Valencia yesterday and the stuff about him hiding in a car on the way out was just the British press being too thick to notice what really happened.
I can't get the video without registering. Do they say who it was they have in the pictures apparently hiding on the way out?
 

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Hmmm if he's still here/still wants to go when the preseason games start what do you do? Start De Gea or Valdes?
 

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Lindegaard played 24 games combined those 2 seasons, compared with De Gea's 80 games.

De Gea was chosen as EPL best keeper in his second season here. In the first half of his first season he made a few mistakes, but he was spectacular on his second half of the season. He has been the best keeper in EPL for at least 3 seasons (I would say 3.5 seasons).
I'm talking about his first season mostly.

@Rado_N @Varun are you all disagreeing with me that De Gea massively needed support, which United fans provided? I'm not disputing the fact that it was obvious he had talent, otherwise we wouldn't have spent £20m on him. I'm simply saying he had a tough start, and United fans, staff and management backed him over the years to succeed - and he did.

Regarding your point, Varun, about how the way he's handling this situation is more respectful than saying it how it is, I'm afraid I have to disagree. In my opinion, he's not talking to the press in any shape or form because he wants to keep United as an option to fall back on, which isn't very fair on us considering what we've given him.
 

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I'm talking about his first season mostly.

@Rado_N @Varun are you all disagreeing with me that De Gea massively needed support, which United fans provided? I'm not disputing the fact that it was obvious he had talent, otherwise we wouldn't have spent £20m on him. I'm simply saying he had a tough start, and United fans, staff and management backed him over the years to succeed - and he did.

Regarding your point, Varun, about how the way he's handling this situation is more respectful than saying it how it is, I'm afraid I have to disagree. In my opinion, he's not talking to the press in any shape or form because he wants to keep United as an option to fall back on, which isn't very fair on us considering what we've given him.
I agree regarding the first part. I'm sure he respects us for that.

Re the 2nd part, yes, he isn't saying it in public for 2 reasons, 1 - It's totally unnecessary as the ones that need to know already do and all it will do is make the entire thing ugly. 2 - Exactly what you said. We know that btw and it isn't disrespectful because again, the people at the club know it and would rather keep him if possible though we know Madrid are his 1st choice. It isn't disrespectful, just works for both parties. Why is it unfair?
 

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I agree regarding the first part. I'm sure he respects us for that.

Re the 2nd part, yes, he isn't saying it in public for 2 reasons, 1 - It's totally unnecessary as the ones that need to know already do and all it will do is make the entire thing ugly. 2 - Exactly what you said. We know that btw and it isn't disrespectful because again, the people at the club know it and would rather keep him if possible though we know Madrid are his 1st choice. It isn't disrespectful, just works for both parties. Why is it unfair?
Yea, that.
 
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