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Funny how the commentators kept insisting that the players and coaches loved how great the pitch was while the truth was the wxact oppositand they mentioned more than 3 times during the game as if they're narketing the stadium for future games
They said several times that the pitch was soggy? And kept pointing out that players were slipping too much. In fact they didn't shut up about it.

Did you watch it on MUTV?
 

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You know nothing until you heard Sjierd de Vos from Sport1 (dutch tv)

For example you are watching Madrid vs Valencia and he suddenly goes on to have a 10 min chat about "in the streets of valencia, there is this little cafe called El Polo Loco. And at El Polo Loco they have this special menu called blabla and at this restaurant back in 2008 Sergio Ramos met his girlfriend for the first time. it was love at first sight etc etc"

Its insane really lol
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Except for the game against Inter, I think we looked good against AS Roma and Real Madrid before beating Liverpool in the "final".
Roma ran circles around us. We just scored from our two chances to progress.
 

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Cruyff turn I thought and he'd want to spend less time practicing them and more time working on 20 yard passes to his own fecking team mates.
Why the Evans hate on here I will never understand. He looked way better than Jones for starters and it is not like other players didn't misplace passes. Smalling made a meal out of a much simpler pass which gave them an opportunity.

The dislike for a player often comes in the way of actually seeing how he actually performed.
 

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Why the Evans hate on here I will never understand. He looked way better than Jones for starters and it is not like other players didn't misplace passes. Smalling made a meal out of a much simpler pass which gave them an opportunity.

The dislike for a player often comes in the way of actually seeing how he actually performed.
Go and have a look at my comments on the Evans transfer thread yesterday and then come back and apologise for including me in your generalisation.
Watching a match and calling what you see is not hate, it is simply calling what you see.

Other players under hit passes or made mistakes under pressure. Evans on 3 occasions, hoofed long passes straight to the opposition. Once when he was under pressure and twice when he was not. Two of the passes put us under real pressure. I expect more from Evans and said so but that isn't "hate".

I disagree with you that he looked better than Jones today.
 

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Best XI from today 4-3-3 (edit- best out of 2 players that played in each position)
Johnstone
Darmian Jones Evans Shaw
Carrick
Herrera Schneiderlin
Lingard Rooney pereira
 
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Played well up top, more suited to that position than Lingard or Perreria.
He did well, but he's a number 10 really. He needs a lot more involvement to show his quality as is the case with playmakers. It's preseason which is about giving everyone a chance but in the long run I hope we don't convert him. Even last season I didn't think he played his natural game (too much touch line hugging).
 

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Best XI from today 4-3-3
Johnstone
Darmian Jones Evans Shaw
Carrick
Herrera Schneiderlin
Lingard Rooney pereira
Would disagree. For me Depay would get in over Rooney, Young over Lingard and Schweinsteiger over Carrick.
 

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That isn't even exaggerated and exactly why I love him, he's so random at times and can make boring games so much more fun. Everytime I now see Arda Turan I think he's called super turk because of Sierd :lol:
You either love or hate him, and i absolutely despise him lol. He just completely ruins matches. I want to watch football, not a Spain tour guide.
 

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Would disagree. For me Depay would get in over Rooney, Young over Lingard and Schweinsteiger over Carrick.
Depay had some good touches but he too didn't exactly have a good game. I chose Rooney because he played the striker and he was better than Wilson. Schweini was good but had a few misplaced passes one of which almost led to a goal. He was good but not better than Carrick imo. Lingard was real good I thought. And he played better than mata did at RW
 

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Depay had some good touches but he too didn't exactly have a good game. I chose Rooney because he played the striker and he was better than Wilson. Schweini was good but had a few misplaced passes one of which almost led to a goal. He was good but not better than Carrick imo. Lingard was real good I thought. And he played better than mata did at RW
Carrick was caught in possession a few times in the first half, nearly gave a goal or two away as a result. Was really poor. Depay was the standout player of the first half imo, Rooney did absolutely nothing. I'd nearly have Wilson over him.

But football is about opinions.
 

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Johnstone
Darmian, Jones, Smalling, Shaw
Herrera Schneiderlin
Januzaj Depay Pereira
Wilson

Neither Wilson nor Rooney did great, but Wilson marginally better
 

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Go and have a look at my comments on the Evans transfer thread yesterday and then come back and apologise for including me in your generalisation.
Watching a match and calling what you see is not hate, it is simply calling what you see.

Other players under hit passes or made mistakes under pressure. Evans on 3 occasions, hoofed long passes straight to the opposition. Once when he was under pressure and twice when he was not. Two of the passes put us under real pressure. I expect more from Evans and said so but that isn't "hate".

I disagree with you that he looked better than Jones today.
Neither do I have the time nor the inclination to read other threads for your posts. As far as apologizing is concerned, I won't because your comment was unnecessarily harsh considering it was just the first match of the pre-season and there were players misplacing passes left, right and center.

Smalling misplaced a much easier pass 10 yards away which nearly caught us out. Schweini misplaced a simple pass. Jones hit 2-3 long passes which went nowhere near any of our players. He was also caught out of position when he charged upfield to tackle a player and Darmian had to cover for him.

I don't see you picking out any of these things but only seemed interested in pointing out a couple of long passes from Evans which he misplaced. Not to mention you conveniently forget the passes were hit long because of us getting pressed at the back and our midfielders all being marked.

But hey, go ahead and tell us how Evans is shit.
 

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You either love or hate him, and i absolutely despise him lol. He just completely ruins matches. I want to watch football, not a Spain tour guide.
Sierd isn't to everyone's taste, I didn't like him at first either. But after spending many afternoons watching boring BBVA and EL matches I started to appreciate his little tips during matches to google names of players their hot sisters :D
 

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It's the best out of the two in each position. Evans was better than blind at LCB, Lingard looked better than mata Carrick was slightly better than schweini and Rooney was better than Wilson. Only Carrick is arguable
Everything is arguable, as it's all subjective. I'd personally have januzaj ahead of rooney as he almost played as a striker today. Schweinstiger definitely better than Carrick IMO. And lingard did nothing for me. Mata was better despite being just okay himself. Opinions.
 

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Carrick was caught in possession a few times in the first half, nearly gave a goal or two away as a result. Was really poor. Depay was the standout player of the first half imo, Rooney did absolutely nothing. I'd nearly have Wilson over him.

But football is about opinions.
Carrick is debatable yes. Schweini too made mistakes. On second thoughts yes having Schneiderlin and darmian would probably have helped schweini too. Hopefully it is just rustiness. Rooney got into positions and even got in a shot (which was shit). Wilson ran hard with no real end product. Got a couple of chances which amounted to nothing. He imo is still raw and needs a loan this season (unfortunately we are short of strikers so I don't see it happening)
 

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Bravo. Great reasoned response. And good job following the rule of discussing a point and not attacking a poster.
I tried the reasoned response mate. You read and took what you wanted to take.
I'm not getting drawn into an argument with a guy who's already decided what my opinion is and explicitly refuses to receive posts which show otherwise.
 

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Sierd isn't to everyone's taste, I didn't like him at first either. But after spending many afternoons watching boring BBVA and EL matches I started to appreciate his little tips during matches to google names of players their hot sisters :D
Plus he always makes it insanely obvious how much he loves barca and dislikes madrid lol. Its not fun to watch the match when you are a madrid fan. I sit there watching hearing him rant about marcelo/pepe/ramos like the majority of the match how they got no brains, or should be locked up....or suggesting that marcelo puts chili peppers in his anus.
 

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I tried the reasoned response mate. You read and took what you wanted to take.
I'm not getting drawn into an argument with a guy who's already decided what my opinion is and explicitly refuses to receive posts which show otherwise.
I pointed out what I saw in the match in terms of other players being equally rusty and you didn't bother to notice any of that, even if you did you didn't take the effort to put that in your posts.

However you explicitly mentioned Evans' lack of passing skills which is what I pointed out. When I mentioned other players making similar sloppy passes and having poor positioning, you came up with that stupid line about arguing with idiots and what not. Learn to accept that people can have differing views than you. I didn't attack you personally when you thought Evans was poor. I just mentioned that personal bias can come in the way of reasoning which is true for most people.
 

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I pointed out what I saw in the match in terms of other players being equally rusty and you didn't bother to notice any of that, even if you did you didn't take the effort to put that in your posts.

However you explicitly mentioned Evans' lack of passing skills which is what I pointed out. When I mentioned other players making similar sloppy passes and having poor positioning, you came up with that stupid line about arguing with idiots and what not. Learn to accept that people can have differing views than you. I didn't attack you personally when you thought Evans was poor. I just mentioned that personal bias can come in the way of reasoning which is true for most people.
This is my last post on this matter.

I am perfectly happy that you have a different point of view. If you hadn't refused to look at the posts I made yesterday, you would have seen that I agree with your point of view and criticised what I felt was unfair treatment Evans was receiving in the transfer forum last night.

What I am not happy with, and tried to explain to you, is you telling me what my opinion, or bias is and then refusing to listen when I tell you you're wrong. I am unhappy with you putting words in my mouth about Evans lack of skills or "telling you how shit he is" on the back of one offhand remark about doing Cruyff turns after 3 very poor passes in 45 minutes. The same sort of comment I would make about Smalling, Rooney, Schweinsteiger or bloody Messi in the same circumstances.

That is what earned you the pidgeon, not your opinion on a football player.
 

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Overall it was a decent run out for the team and thankfully no one got injured on that rough pitch. Most of the threads of the players that stood out have been bumped but one that hasn't is Paddy McNair, I thought after Pereira he was the youngster that really took his chance in that second half.
 

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I know it's a cliché to give out about American commentary but that was fecking painful. There was a 15 second spell where they first spoke about what a shame it was that United's new transfer policy meant we are no longer bringing players from the academy in a touring squad that includes Johnstone, Blackett, McNair, Goss, Pereira, Januzaj, Lingard and Wilson, 7 of whom got 45 minutes tonight. Then they questioned the flag not being raised for offside from a throw in and finally something thing else which really annoyed me but I've forgotten. All in the space of 15 or 20 seconds. Then they tried to tell us the pitch that we could see flat passes bobbling all over was a perfect surface.

Then the entire second half slagging off Van Gaal for not being out on the touchline bawling instructions in the first preseason friendly of the summer. As if he wasn't quite rightly watching his players to learn a but more about them and won't go over everything in detail with them this week. There was the whole Blacklett, Smallings and however the hell he was pronouncing Herrera fiasco and to top it all off, they had Warren Barton who seems to be the worlds least likeable man spouting shite all over the place.

Pereira though. God if he didn't make it all worthwhile!
that commentary was fecking woeful and so was the refereeing, the ref looked like it was his most important match in his career and whistled almost everything..

can't wait to see another game, three long days to go, damn
 

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What was Carrick doing for the first 5 minutes :wenger: