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NinjaZombie

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It's not just the passing. Anytime he has to go forwards, be it a pass or a dribble, he's struggled. Terrible performance.
 

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Not being a coward. He just doesn't have the ability to pass between lines with any kind of zip, or to dribble past anyone. He's not choosing not to do something he's capable of. He's just not capable of anything special with the ball at his foot.
He's been 'okay' at best this season.

The midfield is still not close to being where it needs to be.
 

Lawman

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Not his greatest game granted but better than Carrick of late and Mata
 

Fergus' son

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Not being a coward. He just doesn't have the ability to pass between lines with any kind of zip, or to dribble past anyone. He's not choosing not to do something he's capable of. He's just not capable of anything special with the ball at his foot.
He's been 'okay' at best this season.

The midfield is still not close to being where it needs to be.

Certainly appears that way.
 

acnumber9

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He was blowing out of his arse in the first half. It's shocking how a player of that age can be as unfit as he is.
 

Oo0AahCantona

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The attacking part of his game has completely left him. I think the only role he can play now is our defensive pivot in the carrick role.
 

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You'd think with all that time and space he had he'd be able to impose himself in the game more.
He's never been one to impose himself in an ultra-positive way or to move the ball into dangerous areas.
His best attributes were/are basically being a leader, being tactically versatile and being disciplined.
His actual ball-work is nothing special.

Delph and Dembele offer more with a ball at their foot.
 

Eddy_JukeZ

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He does help give our midfield more control, but we do need him to impose himself more.
 

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He's never been one to impose himself in an ultra-positive way or to move the ball into dangerous areas.
His best attributes were/are basically being a leader, being tactically versatile and being disciplined.
His actual ball-work is nothing special.

Delph and Dembele offer more with a ball at their foot.

You can say that again!
 

Ixion

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He was good. How blind do you have to be to not see we're a better team when he plays.
 

Red Devil 26

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Does well to move in to space to receive the ball, on the ball itself however he is quite poor. Takes too many touches and sloppy with his control too. Every time he takes a heavy touch he invariably ends up losing it as he doesn't have the recovery speed or agility to get out of trouble.
 

FC Ronaldo

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Stats

Shots
Shots - 3
On Target - 0
Off Target - 1
Blocked - 2
Big Chance - 0

Passes
Passes - 91/96
% - 94.8
Failed - 5 (4 travelled longer than 5 yards, 2 were into the box)
Chances created - 2

Other
Crosses - 0/0
Take ons - 0/1
Ball recoveries - 9
Aerial duels - 0/0
Tackles - 1/2
Interceptions - 1
Clearances - 0
 

Joemo

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Better when he plays, but how many times did he try and fool the opposition into thinking he was going to dribble round them only for them to call his bluff that his legs don't actually work?
 

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He didn't do enough when he had the freedom of the midfield and struggled when more pressure came late on, he just looks heavy and cumbersome when he tries to drive the ball forward, like his legs wont obey him.
 

Fergus' son

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Cumbersome is a good word to describe him.

Shane that players with such obvious weaknesses are still far better than any alternatives we have.

Continue with him, Morgan and Herrera in the middle.
 

Amar__

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We are better when he plays becaause he is a warrior both on and off the ball, he is actually quite underrated defensively, and he helps us control the midfield bit better than our other midfielders, but with the ball he is really average. And I am not talking just about his creativity and passing, his touch is seriously average for a supposed once upon a time world class midfielder. If you were that good surely your first touch can't be that average? It's not bad, but it's average. Scholes at his 37 had much better first touch and could get away from some situations more easily, he doesn't have that, and it's not like that's something you lose, you either have it or not, and by the looks of it his technique was never great. Carrick's first touch with his left foot is quite often better than Scweini's with his right foot.

I have criticised him earlier for his passing, but I can understand that that can be down to our style of play and what van Gaal asks from him, but the touch thing is quite simple, you either have good touch or you don't. I am really starting to think that I used to overrate him before he joined us.
 
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Ixion

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There are some people that will criticise him every week because his name isn't Michael Carrick. It's so obvious we're a better side when he plays but every week people shit on him.
 

JustFootballFan

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He's never been one to impose himself in an ultra-positive way or to move the ball into dangerous areas.
His best attributes were/are basically being a leader, being tactically versatile and being disciplined.
His actual ball-work is nothing special..
He´s a maestro, but he´s not making the music himself anymore. United needed somebody like him. They got what they paid for. He just needs a decisive play-making partner in defensive midfield and some fullbacks that push forward. If you expect Schweinsteiger to be the playmaker and best technical midfielder you are in deep shit. Obviously when you play for Bayern and Germany, who have top class defensive midfielders in abundance, his weaknesses won´t hurt the flow of the game. Meanwhile his positives will shine through.

To add: He´s been surprisingly healthy. I didn´t expect that.
 

Sandikan

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we're definitely more solid with him and Schneiderlin in there. certainly couldn't have seen us losing 4 in a row if those two had been in there each game.

doesn't solve the attacking issues though obviously.
 

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in a team of shirkers he is one of the few who will always accept the ball, even if not having a good game. The players actually need him in the side to calm them down, whenever he isn't on the pitch the shape collapses. He has put weight on though even in these last 3 games off, pretty shocked when I saw him waddling around today
 

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He can offer a lot but when he gets tired I think he needs to be managed better. Someone needs to reign him in and tell him to either conserve energy and dictate from deeper or sub him. Wasn't the first time that he gives the ball away cheaply in the final third towards the end of the game when he's shattered. He's trying to do the right thing but just doesn't have the stamina for it.

He's undoubtedly a leader, always wanting the ball, wanting to make something happen and that's great but I think we can use him more effectively.
 

Blackwidow

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Schweinsteiger is/was the best allround midfielder there is. Yes, there are players that pass better, dribble better, have a better ball control, are faster, are better headers of the ball, are better shooters etc. - name it and you will find them even in his own teams. You will not find a midfielder who is capable of all of this things to atleast a good level...

It is this variety of abilities that make him the world class player - not one or two specialities in which he is the best but others he is weak or mediocre.

I guess some here need the punching ball why this match today was no win. In my eyes what you do not have right now is any streak of luck. Everything is just running against you.
 

acnumber9

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There are some people that will criticise him every week because his name isn't Michael Carrick. It's so obvious we're a better side when he plays but every week people shit on him.
It's blatantly the other way round.
 

Leftback99

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In home games where we dominate the ball, Scholes at 41 would probably offer more to our attacking play.
 

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Maybe the new manager will build his team around him?
What is there to build around? Does he pass particularly well? Get forward much?
It would be building around a player who has no outstanding qualities to build around.
 
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