I agree, x gets a shite rap on here, literally underrated as feck.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Goals
- 17
- Assists
- 11
- Yellow cards
- 4
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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His booking was the most Rafael-like yellow card ever.
Henry wasn't famed for his finishing at a younger age. He was famed for his pace and wing play. I remember he, Victor Ikpeba (spelling?) and Trezeguet at Monaco during the late 90s. They were a real "pace and power" frontline with Ikpeba being the targetman. Henry was very much a Martial in our current setup, playing mostly on the wing, except Henry was more winger than forward. I believe Wenger started to let him drift more central at Arsenal and that's when the goals picked up. Don't remember him as much of a finisher with Monaco and Juventus.
His first time pass for rooney's tap in was excellent. So often the opportunity is lost as they take an extra touch or the pass is just cut out. I know its not the most technically amazing pass but still so often gotten wrong.
He just has all the basics of a great footballer. He is a natural footballer. He is getting better at picking out people in the box. He doesn't just blindly cross it in, always looks to find his man.
He just has all the basics of a great footballer. He is a natural footballer. He is getting better at picking out people in the box. He doesn't just blindly cross it in, always looks to find his man.
I haven't felt this much excitement watching a United player pick up a ball since Ronnie was here
HE should have hacked down the ref instead of Bardsley really. He got shoved in the face and ref waved play on for some reason.
Same here. One of the very few attacking players who make you feel excited every time they touch the ball. A true joy to watch.
Another fantastic display from him. Every time he gets the ball and runs at defenders, you just know it'll end with a chance on goal.
I agree that he should play centrally long term, but he looks very good, and productive out on the left.
I agree that he should play centrally long term, but he looks very good, and productive out on the left.
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I think people are misunderstanding my point. I'm talking about his shooting from distance. Martial is a great finisher in front of goal but I've not really seen anything of note from him from distance.
Henry was definitely quicker than Martial. Martial has all the tools to become world class but maybe he will never reach Henry's level.
We played more of a counterattacking game yesterday so he received a lot of balls in space. But what impressed me was that even when the Stoke players doubled up, hey couldn't shop him.
Why would you say that already and why is that so important? Just let him develop nicely and enjoy the show. Dont understand why people always have to compare and say he will never be on this or that level. Who knows, he might surpass Henry, maybe not. I find him brilliant and great to see, it has been a while since someone so young can excite the masses.
It's a figure of speech. Not actually meant to be taken literally.
Worried after Bardsley he might get a lot of the rough stuff
Hope he reacts like Ronaldo did
What a player though... beat Johnson so many times Glen must have thought he was at an S and M weekend
Hope he reacts like Ronaldo did
What a player though... beat Johnson so many times Glen must have thought he was at an S and M weekend
It is harder to get away with these days. Bardsley should have been booked after that terrible challenge near our box and that would have put him effectively out of the game.
The ref was terrible last night in that regard.
Comparisons between exciting young players and previous stars of the game are something quite natural. The post above my post touches on this theme and I stated my opinion. Henry is probably the best forward along with C. Ronaldo the PL has ever seen. We can be happy and excited about Martial's potential even if we compare him to Henry. The very fact that the comparision makes sense speaks volumes.
At age 22 Henry moved to Juventus and flopped. No one really expected him to be as good as he was once he arrived at Arsenal.
I watched him play for Monaco in the CL a number of times too and while he was one of their best players you didn't feel like you were watching the future best player in the world.
Well, Rooney at 18 was probably better than Zidane was at 22. But Zidane went on to become an all time great. I agree that Martial at 20 isn't any worse than Henry at the same age. But this does not mean that he is going to be as good at 26-7 as Henry was at Arsenal. It is too early to tell. At one point Januzaj was compared to Cruyff on here...
It's premature to say he wont reach that or that level. Let's just see. So far, he's been brilliant
I feel that Martial has enough upside in regards to talent to be a top three Ballon D'or. The big question is temperament IMO. Can he produce his best on a consistent basis for a full season and beyond? Can he cope with the pressure of being the best and is he hungry enough for it?
Spot on. He's a very special talent. It remains to be seen whether he will have the character to realise his potential. Maybe he will need also a great manager. SAF helped Ronaldo a lot.
this. a player can have all the potential in this world but still needs a manager who can make him turn potential into success and became a world class player. hope that will be the case with martial at united.
15 goals and 10 assists would be an excellent debut season if he can get there. Just hope we can get him some help sharpish.
We play some minnows in the cups and it is perfectly possible that he achieves these numbers. We need him to deliver more often in the league. He's our best forward and best bet to make top 4.
Yet another goal from the Thierry Henry catalogue.
Just hope he improves his shooting. Yeah, sounds ridiculous after he bent it into the far top corner from 18 yards, but you know what I mean. If he could learn to put his laces through it he could score tons of goals as he so easily makes opportunities for himself just outside the box.
Just hope he improves his shooting. Yeah, sounds ridiculous after he bent it into the far top corner from 18 yards, but you know what I mean. If he could learn to put his laces through it he could score tons of goals as he so easily makes opportunities for himself just outside the box.
If we had another two him we'd be running away with the title.
Hmmmm
My iPad is a messHmmmm
They couldn't stop him.
No worries mate. Just messing with u!
There's no limit to his potential, brilliant player in the making! 
Whatever the outcome of this season, his arrival will be a bright spot.
Right now he's looking like a player who has the potential to become one of the very best, and he's already performing at a higher level that anyone could reasonably expect from him at his age. Imagine what we could do in the coming years if we were able to bring in a striker and a right sided attacker with similar potential! We're already one third there, it's possible lads
Right now he's looking like a player who has the potential to become one of the very best, and he's already performing at a higher level that anyone could reasonably expect from him at his age. Imagine what we could do in the coming years if we were able to bring in a striker and a right sided attacker with similar potential! We're already one third there, it's possible lads
To clarify, I'm not addressing your doubt over Martial, I'm addressing Henry's abilities pre-Arsenal when you were too young to remember. Henry was much more a winger than Martial is back then. Trezeguet was Monaco's bigger threat in terms of shooting. It's still early to judge if Martial would actually reach Henry's level, but the thing is not many people expected Henry to end up in the 'forward' position that he did at Arsenal.
Only because of age. You need to lower the hype. Messi is possibly the greatest of all time who doubles the scoring record of all time great strikers, while at the same time possessing vision that rivals the best passers ever. Martial is just starting and his ability doesn't reach that of Messi's. There is no reason to be setting the bar that high.
In any case, Martial is a joy to watch. Still not sure where I would like for him to end up on the pitch.
I have watched his goal for the 89th time this morning, true class.
You just know/expect something is going to happen when he has the ball, top top talent.
His finishing will improve but his close control is better than Henry's or pretty much every other player (bar Messi and maybe Suarez). I just can't get over the fact that his technique on the ball, running in between defenders is quite often executed perfectly at pace.
Absolute bargain.
Absolute bargain.
Every time he's one on one with a defender, I expect him to go past his man. It's sad it's the complete opposite feeling I have with Memphis.
Any team with three Martials up front is going to win the league
Louis van Gaal has admitted that even he is “surprised” by the immediate impact Anthony Martial has had at Manchester United.
The French forward has emerged as United’s accidental main man since joining from Ligue Un side Monaco in the summer.
Martial became the most expensive teenager in history after United signed him for £36.7million on transfer deadline day in the summer, with the 19-year-old expected to integrated slowly into the first team.
But the 20-year-old has scored nine goals in 29 games at the club, becoming their second-top goalscorer this season behind captain Wayne Rooney.
Manager Van Gaal admits that even he has found Martial’s immediate impact “very much surprising”, with the striker having scored against Stoke on Tuesday.
“You come from the French league, come to the Premier League and you do this at 20 then you have a lot of potential to give but then I am the manager not any more at that time when he is at his best,” Van Gaal said.
Martial impressed again as a wide forward at Old Trafford against Stoke, with chances in his favoured central position few and far between for the French international so far.
“That [starting centrally] is dependent on the shape of the team, his fellow players,” Van Gaal added. “He likes to play in a striker’s position more than where he is now playing but when I need him to play on the other side. When he plays like this I am not changing. Same as Rooney, same as Mata. I am not changing.
“They were team goals and team goals I love the most – superb, superb. I’m also happy with individual goals but these were a team. The finishing was also very good.”
Big hint there that he will not be sticking around
The French forward has emerged as United’s accidental main man since joining from Ligue Un side Monaco in the summer.
Martial became the most expensive teenager in history after United signed him for £36.7million on transfer deadline day in the summer, with the 19-year-old expected to integrated slowly into the first team.
But the 20-year-old has scored nine goals in 29 games at the club, becoming their second-top goalscorer this season behind captain Wayne Rooney.
Manager Van Gaal admits that even he has found Martial’s immediate impact “very much surprising”, with the striker having scored against Stoke on Tuesday.
“You come from the French league, come to the Premier League and you do this at 20 then you have a lot of potential to give but then I am the manager not any more at that time when he is at his best,” Van Gaal said.
Martial impressed again as a wide forward at Old Trafford against Stoke, with chances in his favoured central position few and far between for the French international so far.
“That [starting centrally] is dependent on the shape of the team, his fellow players,” Van Gaal added. “He likes to play in a striker’s position more than where he is now playing but when I need him to play on the other side. When he plays like this I am not changing. Same as Rooney, same as Mata. I am not changing.
“They were team goals and team goals I love the most – superb, superb. I’m also happy with individual goals but these were a team. The finishing was also very good.”
Big hint there that he will not be sticking around
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