Adam Johnson found guilty of one count of sexual activity with a child | Sentenced to six years

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If Johnson serves, say, 3 years how would people feel about him seeking re-employment on his release at 31?

The level of club who would take him is irrelevant - I'd just be interested in knowing people's views on Johnson being able to sign and play for clubs in the future.
As long he's not working with teenagers, I think it would be ok. However, I would hope he's playing at a much lower level than he was. It's better he's contributing to society rather living off of it.
 

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You couldn't make this up. I see Sunderland have replaced him with Eboue...
 

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He'll never play professional football in England again. No club would take the public backlash.
 

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I still fail to see why we couldn't comment on this during the trial, especially as the papers were reporting on what was going on...

It's hardly likely a jury will be surfing RedCafe and thinking "that Big Andy reckons Johnson is a dirty pervert, who should be castrated and bummed for all eternity in prison" and go "Well I thought he was innocent, but now I've read that...."

It seems like its a fecking nanny state this place these days...
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As long he's not working with teenagers, I think it would be ok. However, I would hope he's playing at a much lower level than he was. It's better he's contributing to society rather living off of it.
Ched Evans all over again, he won't get a club in England even if the club wanted to sign him.
 

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He'll never play professional football in England again. No club would take the public backlash.
It's not clear, for me. Ched Evans was convicted of rape, which I'd consider even more serious than the crime that Johnson has been convicted of.

It's slightly confusing that footballers convicted of other fairly heinous crimes have been allowed back.

I keep reading that his career is definitely over - I can see him being sentenced to 5 years, let out after 3 and looking for a club.

Those that threatened a furore over Ched Evans comeback held up his refusal to admit guilt as decisive - surely if Johnson serves his time, admits guilt and says he's sorry then he's free to work?
 

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It's not clear, for me. Ched Evans was convicted of rape, which I'd consider even more serious than the crime that Johnson has been convicted of.

It's slightly confusing that footballers convicted of other fairly heinous crimes have been allowed back.

I keep reading that his career is definitely over - I can see him being sentenced to 5 years, let out after 3 and looking for a club.

Those that threatened a furore over Ched Evans comeback held up his refusal to admit guilt as decisive - surely if Johnson serves his time, admits guilt and says he's sorry then he's free to work?
It's an unforgiving environment. Fans will jump on him at the mere sight of speculation. It's too much trouble to be worth it especially as he'll be past 30 when he's out.
 

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It's an unforgiving environment. Fans will jump on him at the mere sight of speculation. It's too much trouble to be worth it especially as he'll be past 30 when he's out.
Christ, with the songs some of our support sing about Winger, imagine what people would do to Adam Johnson.
 

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WTF The Sun??

I thought a paedophile was someone attracted to pre-pubescent children? Not defending Johnson, but there's an obvious difference between a child pre-puberty and a 15 year old girl. He's not Jimmy Saville.

But then i guess that doesn't rhyme. The Sun do make me laugh though, they have another story about how disgraceful it is that you can still play as and even score goals with him on Fifa :lol:
 

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I thought a paedophile was someone attracted to pre-pubescent children? Not defending Johnson, but there's an obvious difference between a child pre-puberty and a 15 year old girl. He's not Jimmy Saville.

But then i guess that doesn't rhyme. The Sun do make me laugh though, they have another story about how disgraceful it is that you can still play as and even score goals with him on Fifa :lol:
They also have published countdowns and stories celebrating attractive celebrities turning 16 before in the past.
 

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If Johnson serves, say, 3 years how would people feel about him seeking re-employment on his release at 31?

The level of club who would take him is irrelevant - I'd just be interested in knowing people's views on Johnson being able to sign and play for clubs in the future.
Should probably just visit the Ched Evans thread. There was a very lengthy debate about this in there, albeit for a different crime, but the general theme applies. 'He's served his time' vs 'creepy sex criminal who should never work again'.
 

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They also have published countdowns and stories celebrating attractive celebrities turning 16 before in the past.
Yeah i remember that, Emma Watson wasn't it?

Sean Lock made a very good point about that.

"Imagine if i did that? Imagine the trouble i would get into if i followed fifteen year old girls around saying 'three days to go'" :lol:
 

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Yeah i remember that, Emma Watson wasn't it?

Sean Lock made a very good point about that.

"Imagine if i did that? Imagine the trouble i would get into if i followed fifteen year old girls around saying 'three days to go'" :lol:
I think the most infamous one was the Charlotte Church one, because they placed it next to an article calling other people perverts and pedophiles.

 

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I think the most infamous one was the Charlotte Church one, because they placed it next to an article calling other people perverts and pedophiles.

Jesus titty fecking christ, that's got to be a joke? Please tell me they didn't actually do that?
 

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I thought a paedophile was someone attracted to pre-pubescent children? Not defending Johnson, but there's an obvious difference between a child pre-puberty and a 15 year old girl. He's not Jimmy Saville.

But then i guess that doesn't rhyme. The Sun do make me laugh though, they have another story about how disgraceful it is that you can still play as and even score goals with him on Fifa :lol:
Yep. Not only is the headline totally crass it's actually not even correct by the definition of the word. And I agree, Johnson is an idiotic creep who's thrown away a professional football career and relationship with his partner and daughter to groom a 15 year old school girl in full knowledge she wasn't of legal age. When he's released he'll be on a sex offenders register and he'll have to live the rest of his life with the shame of what he did. But to call him a 'paedo' as though it's the same as what Savile or Ian Watkins did is unfair.
 

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Different crimes, and the issue with Ched is that he didn't admit guilt.
Eh? I really doubt that was what tipped the fans backlash... As if they'd have welcomed him with open arms if he'd admitted he was infact a rapist. His conviction was controversial and has every right to protest his innocence if he believes the decision was unjust, but that discussion has been done to death.

I think he should be allowed to work again after he's served his time.
 

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Eh? I really doubt that was what tipped the fans backlash... As if they'd have welcomed him with open arms if he'd admitted he was infact a rapist. His conviction was controversial and has every right to protest his innocence if he believes the decision was unjust, but that discussion has been done to death.

I think he should be allowed to work again after he's served his time.
Go read about it. Of the groups campaigning against Evans various possible moves, all of them said that the situation was made untenable due to the fact he hadn't admitted guilt and apologised.
 

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I think the most infamous one was the Charlotte Church one, because they placed it next to an article calling other people perverts and pedophiles.

That's bad. They also counted down to Sam Fox's 16th birthday. If I remember correctly, in the days before the birthday they published a day by day strip until she was topless on her 16th.
 

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Jesus titty fecking christ, that's got to be a joke? Please tell me they didn't actually do that?
They did print that, it's real. It's exactly the absurd kind of thing that the show they are bashing as "sick" was satirising, quite unbelievable really
 

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Johnson committed statutory rape.
I've had one post in this crazy forum and kept my mouth shut at a lot of posts as he was in the wrong, but one thing you can not say that guy did was commit that word "rape". Yes, by the legal definition he did as she was under the age but come the f3ck on! She voluntarily did everything and as per my one and only post, close to 16 is not an innocent girl who doesn't know what she's doing!!!! Adam J is an ar53hole, a d1ck, everything. I'd go beyond that if i could in the sense for the type of person he is and how he treated his friends / family etc. But i go back to part of my post where in countries very similar to ours what he would have done would not be illegal (yes, he did it in ours, so is liable), but he did not rape, have sex with the girl.

Rape is a HUGE word mate, huge.

Now not that this means anything but i want to put it into context...i've been with my wife since i was 19, she was 16. we've 2 kids, happily married and nearing our 40's. I have a daughter who i'm protective of. And i'm far from a naive person who isn't aware of the law (hence my disgust at AJ), but this girl is not a 10 year old who he sneered on some website. She did a lot of the running and he was a so so so stupid **** but come on, using that word rapist is not right in this case. Legally yes, but explain yourself more to those who don't know that meaning of the phrase in England!
 

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I've had one post in this crazy forum and kept my mouth shut at a lot of posts as he was in the wrong, but one thing you can not say that guy did was commit that word "rape". Yes, by the legal definition he did as she was under the age but come the f3ck on! She voluntarily did everything and as per my one and only post, close to 16 is not an innocent girl who doesn't know what she's doing!!!! Adam J is an ar53hole, a d1ck, everything. I'd go beyond that if i could in the sense for the type of person he is and how he treated his friends / family etc. But i go back to part of my post where in countries very similar to ours what he would have done would not be illegal (yes, he did it in ours, so is liable), but he did not rape, have sex with the girl.

Rape is a HUGE word mate, huge.

Now not that this means anything but i want to put it into context...i've been with my wife since i was 19, she was 16. we've 2 kids, happily married and nearing our 40's. I have a daughter who i'm protective of. And i'm far from a naive person who isn't aware of the law (hence my disgust at AJ), but this girl is not a 10 year old who he sneered on some website. She did a lot of the running and he was a so so so stupid **** but come on, using that word rapist is not right in this case. Legally yes, but explain yourself more to those who don't know that meaning of the phrase in England!
I don't think you know what statutory rape means.


Your rant is along the lines of:

"Don't call that shrink a Psycho Therapist, psycho is such a strong word".
 

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I've had one post in this crazy forum and kept my mouth shut at a lot of posts as he was in the wrong, but one thing you can not say that guy did was commit that word "rape". Yes, by the legal definition he did as she was under the age but come the f3ck on! She voluntarily did everything and as per my one and only post, close to 16 is not an innocent girl who doesn't know what she's doing!!!! Adam J is an ar53hole, a d1ck, everything. I'd go beyond that if i could in the sense for the type of person he is and how he treated his friends / family etc. But i go back to part of my post where in countries very similar to ours what he would have done would not be illegal (yes, he did it in ours, so is liable), but he did not rape, have sex with the girl.

Rape is a HUGE word mate, huge.

Now not that this means anything but i want to put it into context...i've been with my wife since i was 19, she was 16. we've 2 kids, happily married and nearing our 40's. I have a daughter who i'm protective of. And i'm far from a naive person who isn't aware of the law (hence my disgust at AJ), but this girl is not a 10 year old who he sneered on some website. She did a lot of the running and he was a so so so stupid **** but come on, using that word rapist is not right in this case. Legally yes, but explain yourself more to those who don't know that meaning of the phrase in England!
Statutory rape is not the same as violent rape.

In some common law jurisdictions, statutory rape is sexual activity in which at least one person is below the age required to legally consent to the behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape
 

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Go read about it. Of the groups campaigning against Evans various possible moves, all of them said that the situation was made untenable due to the fact he hadn't admitted guilt and apologised.
Seems dubious reasoning to me. "I'd happily let this rapist play for my club if he didn't protest his innocence on a controversial conviction".
 

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That's bad. They also counted down to Sam Fox's 16th birthday. If I remember correctly, in the days before the birthday they published a day by day strip until she was topless on her 16th.
Traci Lords was another. She was starring in blue movies whilst under the age of majority. Apparently, all copies of said films were destroyed.
 

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He found out she's only 15y old yet decided to get what he can from her?

In that case feck him, deserves whatever he gets for punishment.

As for her, she also could've just say no, but f... your favorite football player was a must for her I presume so don't buy her being such a innocent little girl.
Now I remember why I hate threads like this, comments like this.
 

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I don't think you know what statutory rape means.


Your rant is along the lines of:

"Don't call that shrink a Psycho Therapist, psycho is such a strong word".
no, that's far from the truth @Pexbo , my point was all about the context of labeling someone a "rapist" when that word in so many people's eyes is a word that means someone forced something to do something they didn't want to. This is not that case. In my two posts i've always said he abused his status and everything, but he is not a rapist in the sense of the word most of us would use it in modern language. hence someone on the tread labeling him a rapist in my opinion is wrong. A d1ck, a kn0b etc yes, but he did not rape the girl @Pexbo!
 

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no, that's far from the truth @Pexbo , my point was all about the context of labeling someone a "rapist" when that word in so many people's eyes is a word that means someone forced something to do something they didn't want to. This is not that case. In my two posts i've always said he abused his status and everything, but he is not a rapist in the sense of the word most of us would use it in modern language. hence someone on the tread labeling him a rapist in my opinion is wrong. A d1ck, a kn0b etc yes, but he did not rape the girl @Pexbo!
This is awkward.

Can someone else explain?
 

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no, that's far from the truth @Pexbo , my point was all about the context of labeling someone a "rapist" when that word in so many people's eyes is a word that means someone forced something to do something they didn't want to. This is not that case. In my two posts i've always said he abused his status and everything, but he is not a rapist in the sense of the word most of us would use it in modern language. hence someone on the tread labeling him a rapist in my opinion is wrong. A d1ck, a kn0b etc yes, but he did not rape the girl @Pexbo!
This is very ignorant. Just because you don't consider statutory rape as rape does not mean it isn't.
 

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This is very ignorant. Just because you don't consider statutory rape as rape does not mean it isn't.
fecking hell mate, you might not like cooking oil but there is absolutely no reason to call it rape seed oil.

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