Back to Valencia and Young on the wings, incredible how some people will never learn.
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thisWhilst neither Young nor Valencia are very good, neither is the likes of Lingard. At least in a game like Liverpool Valencia will be reliable defensively and allow Varela to push forward.
We have a crap squad.
I agree. Which is why we have a desperate need to stop sticking with mediocrity. It's insane that we have Valencia, who cannot beat a man or put in a single cross all game still here simply because he's a hard worker and can play in another position which he also isn't very good at! He's also so one footed it's painful to watch. He could donate his left leg and not miss it.
or, you know, we could actually try januzaj there for once.
I like Januzaj, but he isn't eligible for the Liverpool game as he's cup tied having played for Dortmund. I'd be all for giving him a chance in the league.
ah, fair enough. misunderstanding on my part.
He's 30 years of age.
The living in the past syndromeBack to Valencia and Young on the wings, incredible how some people will never learn.
Oh yeah cos what we are doing is working so well atm.Back to Valencia and Young on the wings, incredible how some people will never learn.
I said that as in people saying he can never get it past the man. In that case it can only improve.
he'll be a beast at 32 then
Because they worked perfectly then? Time to move on!
Move on to what?
From the past for a start?
Valencia has struggled in an attacking sense but he is very strong defensively and him and Varela imo would provide a lot of problems on the right wing. Young has been brilliant when he has played so he deserves a chance on the left wing.
He's your right winger though, if being strong defensively is the best compliment to hand it's not very promising is it?
As much I would to agree with you but Valencia is nowhere strong defensively. There isn't anything defensive in his game play at RB. He is riddled with errors. His saving grace is his physicality, which will not suffice. Valencia has only had one genuine good season at United and he gets worse with every serious injury. I would not keep my hopes up, off the back of another serious injury. Young may derseve a chance but we need to push on from players that will not improve dramatically in coming years. We don't know if he will be good enough after this injury.
He will work tirelessly for you which will allow players like Mata to shine.
He is strong defensively and I didn't say for the next few seasons. I meant until the end of the season. You didn't seriously think I meant they would be our pairing next season?
His defensive awareness is nil.
Anyone want to keep him instead of Darmian next summer (assuming Varela keeps his place as a first choice)? I'm all for giving Darmian one more season etc but realistically one can't go to a new season with 3 first team RBs and Valencia is a safer bet for me for next season. Darmian is younger but if he's behind both Varela and Valencia what are we going to do with him? All of this is just hypothetical of course.
I rather keep Darmian. Before his arrival, he was potentially the best of the available RBs. He is capable of much better performances as we saw in his first few months with us. Like most foreign players, he needs the time to adapt. Valencia is a failed winger who gets game at RB because of his physical nature. He is getting on and his recent injury does not guarantee better performances than the poor ones in recent seasons. Darmian will get better no doubt.
You think Varela has shown enough to be first choice next season?
His performances so far have been excellent and I really like him, but I think the defensive side of his game needs a lot of work before he can be considered a first choice for a team with our ambitions (I am still in the pre-Fergie world, where our ambitions are top honors). For next season, I see him as an able deputy with a bright future.
Well his performance level has been better than both Darmian and Valencia so unless we buy a new RB, we can only play the best player for that position isn't it?
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Agree and by quite a bit, we should have went for Coleman.
Sure.
What I meant to ask was, at this stage, if you think he is good enough to be a first choice for a team with ambitions?
No, he needs to improve his defending for sure especially positioning.But that's not a way to judge a player in his first year playing in a decent enough level.He's young enough to take his game to the next level in 2-3 seasons and I would rather pin my hopes on him than another expensive signing that might not work out.
Fair enough.
I so unsure about Darmian that I cannot make my mind up. I wanted him in the summer and he started very well with us but has looked atrocious for rest of the season. Don't know if we should replace with someone or give him another season and place our trust in Varela, in case Darmian doesn't come good next season too.
I honestly think Lingard > current Valencia at wings. Though as you said neither is a very enticing option.
Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool
Solid game, welcome back 
Solid 45. Few decent interceptions...
Still fast as feck and keeps the ball well.
He just received a ticket of 'Right Back Starting Eleven vs Manchester City'
Glad he's back.
He did fine when he came on, his physical gifts helped.
I'd play him at RW against City. He'd be a big upgrade over Mata/Lingard.
I agree. I fail to see what Lingard offers in the RW position that Valencia doesn't. And although Valencia may not be as good at getting past players as he once was, he is still miles better than lingard. He's probably better at supporting his fullback as well. I thought he should have come on for Mata yesterday.
Good to see him back. Ignoring his final ball he's a beastly player really. It's just a shame his final ball is so bad, but considering our entire sides final ball is awful, he'll be a huge plus because of everything else he brings to the team.
I'm happy that he is back and all but I'm really surprised with all these positive comments. I'll give him 2 games for the caf to turn on him and LVG being an idiot to play him
He was usuall Valencia,..decent at the back, shite going forward. It took me 2 minutes to realize how much i didnt miss him.
I'm happy that he is back and all but I'm really surprised with all these positive comments. I'll give him 2 games for the caf to turn on him and LVG being an idiot to play him
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