Ilkay Gündogan

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I thought we should have taken a chance and gotten him in the last transfer window. Caution prevailed though. If his form holds, there'll be a scramble for his signature next summer.
 

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Is Carrick's contract till the end of this season or next? If it is this summer, has he signed a one year extension?
 

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This. He is brilliant, we need a Modric type player, and Ilkay can be as good as him. Either him or Goretzka/ Neves would be ace if we plan on fielding a double pivot midfield, which sadly limits Ander. Gundogan would be he more experienced option who can start contributing from day one; and if we don't get him then Goretzka/ Neves can sit behind Schweinsteiger for a bit before taking over full-time. Would be fairly cheap too, maybe €30-35 million. Dunno about these reports though...
I'd prefer Gundogan to the young option, give us two mid 20's CM's that can be the backbone of midfield for the next 5 years while we see what happens with our own youngsters like Goss, Fosu-Mensah and maybe even Pereira if he learns to play deeper.
 

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Was an open goal last summer, decided not to take the risk. Now he's off to City. Gutted tbh.
 

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Was an open goal last summer, decided not to take the risk. Now he's off to City. Gutted tbh.
Hasn't he still be dodgy this season with fitness? All I know is he missed the Spurs game and didn't play for Germany the other night either
 

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Hasn't he still be dodgy this season with fitness? All I know is he missed the Spurs game and didn't play for Germany the other night either
He's been fit for most of the season. Played almost every game.
 

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So according to nobody?
Gundogan has been the player with the strongest links to City since Guardiola's announcement, quite a few outlets have been reporting on it, including Bild, Di Marzio, SkySports, the Telegraph etc. Then there was the meeting in Amsterdam between Txiki and Pep a few weeks back where Gundogan's uncle was also present.
 

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Looks likely. For me not the same player as he was, a lot of his game was based on the physical, but will fit into a nice pep rolling the ball around the back for 90 minutes midfield I'm sure
 

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Looks likely. For me not the same player as he was, a lot of his game was based on the physical, but will fit into a nice pep rolling the ball around the back for 90 minutes midfield I'm sure
He's having an amazing season, don't know which games you've been watching. Hopefully he doesn't end up at City, would be a shame.
 

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Terrible deal from our perspective. He'll be perfect for them and would have been the ideal CM for us.
 

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With Pep in charge and FFP seemingly eradicated, people on here better be prepared to see City sign some top tier players. A fair few of them.

I fully expect City to smash some transfer spending records this summer. Hopefully it spurs us on to make some bold moves too. We both need it.
 

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Gundogan has been the player with the strongest links to City since Guardiola's announcement, quite a few outlets have been reporting on it, including Bild, Di Marzio, SkySports, the Telegraph etc.
BILD :lol::lol::lol:
di Marzio :lol::lol:
Telegraph :lol::lol::lol:

BILD links almost everybody with everyone, based on a drawing procedure. Di Marzio writes whatever agents want him to. Telegraph is almost as bad as Indykaila.

Then there was the meeting in Amsterdam between Txiki and Pep a few weeks back where Gundogan's uncle was also present.
Interestingly, this meeting is 'reported' to have been initiated by Ilkay's agent; not City.

Ilkay would fit into Pep's target profile and I don't think he has a problem to join a club like City (although it appears he's keener on Barcelona). However I doubt that he's willing to play Europa League or no UEFA football at all. I'd be surprised if he decides for City before that's sorted out.
 

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Have wanted Gundogan for years.. hope he doesn't end up with those cnuts.
 

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Fecking hell. What a signing. What a feck up from us. Hope he flops but I can't see it.
 

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They need him more than we do that's for sure! Good signing of true!
 

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BILD :lol::lol::lol:
di Marzio :lol::lol:
Telegraph :lol::lol::lol:

BILD links almost everybody with everyone, based on a drawing procedure. Di Marzio writes whatever agents want him to. Telegraph is almost as bad as Indykaila.


Interestingly, this meeting is 'reported' to have been initiated by Ilkay's agent; not City.

Ilkay would fit into Pep's target profile and I don't think he has a problem to join a club like City (although it appears he's keener on Barcelona). However I doubt that he's willing to play Europa League or no UEFA football at all. I'd be surprised if he decides for City before that's sorted out.
I was not claiming those sources to be the most reliable, all I was pointing out is that there has been a lot of widespread talk claiming City are close to signing Gundogan. There was also a journalist for Dubai Sports who met Gundogan and said afterwards on Twitter a deal was 100% done (he also said the same for Guardiola to City), and the Mirror who are generally reliable for City (depending on the journalist) have claimed the same. There is enough evidence to suggest something is happening.

As for the meeting I also read it was initiated by Gundogan's uncle, but I do not see why that matters other than to show Gundogan clearly is interested in a move. Regarding City's league position I can see why he'd be concerned but if he wants to join City he'd be doing so with the intention of staying for longer than a season, so I do not think even if we came 5th it would be a huge deterrent due to Pep's arrival. He'd still fancy his chances of winning the Premier League, Europe can come after.
 

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This stinks. We have needed a player like him for a long time.
I hope Jose and Woodward have their transfer plans well sorted.
 

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As you can take from my post above, I don't question that City with Pep at the helm is of huge interest to Gündogan. He has been desperate for a move to a club which offers him a bigger contract Dortmund could/would ever offer him and that guarantees CL-football for almost 3 seasons now. That's no news, at least for those who have followed him for a while.

What I question are reports about a done deal for two reasons:
  1. Most media claims are fiction.
  2. What substantiates a done deal? Have all three parties agreed, in this specific case: City and Gündogan on a contract as well as City and Dortmund on a fee?
    In summer 2015 German media (SKY and Der Westen) reported a done deal regarding Gündogan's move to United. And in fact this was partially true: Contract terms of Gündogan and United were agreed. However, United wasn't willing to pay what Dortmund demanded, Dortmund didn't budge, the rest ist history (= Schweinsteiger at United, Gündogan on an unsuccesful road show through Europe that ended with another 1-year contract extension).
Therefore, I'm skeptical not just regarding 'links' and 'bid preparations' but also 'done deals' and rather wait for clubs and players to officially confirm a deal.

PS: To avoid misunderstandings, I fully expect Gündogan to leave Dortmund (as I have done for the last three years). I'm just not convinced that he'll decide at this point in time before it's clear which clubs play CL, EL or no European football at all.
 

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Will he be able to play for an English club after the UK leaves the EU in the summer? Gundogans uncle seems to have spent the last few years playing clubs off each other to get more money.
 

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Will he be able to play for an English club after the UK leaves the EU in the summer? Gundogans uncle seems to have spent the last few years playing clubs off each other to get more money.
Why wouldn't he be able to? I was under the impression that leaving the EU wouldn't really make a difference to established foreign footballers.
 

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It'll take the UK a few years to actually get out of Europe; there are gazillions of issues which have to be re-negotiated and put into law. It's not like a four weeks notice.
 

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Interesting that City have gotten Otamendi, De Bruyne and Gundogan, all players in positions we have needed upgrades in, all players who were super highly rated in their positions, and we seemingly haven't stood in their way at all. Maybe we know they have deeper pockets/ have the Pep factor, so we don't fully bother.
 
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