Least of our problems today. Did well for the assist and was covering as last man at times. We should have moved him to #10 position as soon as it went 2-2.
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He had his head up to track Martials run whilst receiving the ball, beating the defender and releasing the pass.
Class and intent to make sure the ball he put in was not just an aimless cross.
As @Sylar said, least of our problems tonight.
I actually feel the 'he goes missing' comments are a bit unfair, I think he's always trying his hardest, his work ethic is pretty good, he's not Suarez but he's better than people on here would have you believe. There's only so much he can do with it given his physical...capabilities but I can't fault him for trying.
Lovely moment for the goal, after getting the winner Saturday. One of few players I'm not incredibly pissed off with right now, though I am a fanboy I admit.
I actually feel the 'he goes missing' comments are a bit unfair, I think he's always trying his hardest, his work ethic is pretty good, he's not Suarez but he's better than people on here would have you believe. There's only so much he can do with it given his physical...capabilities but I can't fault him for trying.
Lovely moment for the goal, after getting the winner Saturday. One of few players I'm not incredibly pissed off with right now, though I am a fanboy I admit.
Scores the winning goal on the Saturday, sets up the equalizing goal on the Tuesday. I wish we had more of these luxury players in our team.
Mourinho sold him because he preferred Oscar as his #10. Oscar has since been much worse than Mata. Maybe not the smartest move after all.
I think we should cash it this summer. I really love the lad but he is not what we need, he flattered to deceive at times even if he put some good performances here and there. If somebody offers anywhere near £25m (as we always get trounced when selling players), we should let him go.
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Dropped by Spain.
Who has taken his place?
Here's the squad
Squad
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Porto), David De Gea (Manchester United), Sergio Rico (Sevilla)
Defenders: Jordi Alba, Gerard Pique, Marc Bartra (all Barcelona), Sergio Ramos, Dani Carvajal (Real Madrid), Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid)
Midfielders: Sergio Busquets, Andres Iniesta (both Barcelona), David Silva (Manchester City), Mikel San Jose (Athletic Bilbao), Koke, Saul Niguez (both Atletico Madrid), Cesc Fabregas (Chelsea), Thiago Alcantara (Bayern Munich), Isco (Real Madrid), Bruno Soriano (Villarreal)
Forwards: Pedro Rodriguez (Chelsea), Alvaro Morata (Juventus), Aritz Aduriz (Athletic Bilbao), Nolito (Celta Vigo), Lucas Vazquez (Real Madrid)
More surprised by Costa and Torres not getting a look in.
Spain has never really favoured him, have they?
No surprise. I certainly wouldn't fear Spain if Mata was starting for them against us.
Shit yeah. Didn't notice that. Who's Soriano too? Did he used to play for Sampdoria (dunno why I know that)?
he isn't that good. Its only because he plays for us that he gets an inflated status on this site.
Mata is not much better than Fellaini vis a vis the positions they play in: both of them are top 7 club material AND NOT Champions material, which is why we are where we are.
Would be one of the first players Id sell if I was Mourinho.
From Wiki. Never heard of him myself
I'm just waiting for Stobzilla to come along and make a shit copying and pasting joke/reference now.
Doesn't look great up front. Surely Costa would have enhanced this squad?
That's a different player, ain't it? The one in the squad is a midfielder who plays for Villareal.
Edit: ohhhh, it's Bruno. Not sure why they've got him down as Soriano like
Mata's problem is he's a luxury player that can't play CM, isn't really a winger but isn't as good as various other No.10s for Spain. He's bloody good, still, but like a lot of others has lost out to competition in a strong era for Spain.
I still haven't heard of him ha
Do you think he can be our 1st choice no 10 or luxury player in a Mourinho United? If so, where does he fit in?
I really don't know. Even a flushed Rooney is preferable at no 10 for me. Plus is Ibra comes in, then increase in competition for no 10 and also wide right from Rooney, Rashford, Memphis and Januzaj (plus new signing). Does not look good for him.
Not better than Fellaini? Honest to god. I mean seriously. Ffs.
I think Mata's been wasted really, at United. Never been played consistently in best position and, if I'm honest, he'd be part of a large clear out if it were down to me.
I've the same problem with him that Mourinho had - he's too lightweight and unbalances a team selection. You can't really play Depay on the left, Rooney deep and Mata at No. 10. Our whole squad is poorly planned and balanced and two of those three should be moved on, allowing the future to be planned around Depay.
I've the same problem with him that Mourinho had - he's too lightweight and unbalances a team selection. You can't really play Depay on the left, Rooney deep and Mata at No. 10. Our whole squad is poorly planned and balanced and two of those three should be moved on, allowing the future to be planned around Depay.
If you have Hazard and De Bryune firing balls into him, he's bound to score at some stage tbf
He may be more talented but performances relative to position this season, I don't think so. I think Mata has been as disappointing wide right as Fellaini has been in central midfield.
Even the redcafe average rating for the entire season (Mata 5.7 vs Fellaini 5.1) shows this could be true, the scores are quite close and I think Fellaini is always under scored because of a negative bias and Mata over scored because of positive bias.
Lets not forget how many games Mata has gone totally missing, how many times his stray passes led to a break down of our few attacking moves, and how few assists he has contributed.
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I don't know if he should have been called or not, but I see that the likes of Fabregas, Isco and Pedro were called and they had worse seasons than Mata.
I think its different though, the position Mata plays means a play will almost always go missing if you can't get him the service. I don't think we've had a single player thats looked great playing number 10 under Van Gaal and thats a large part down to the fact we suck at getting them the ball quickly in positions where they can hurt teams. The same defence can't really be offered for Fellaini.
Personally I'd like to see Mata utilised properly for us and then judge him, but if its not going to happen then he's better off leaving.
Man Utd 3:1 Bournemouth
Very good tonight. Hope he can at least keep up this form for one more game.
He had a couple of decent moments in the second half.
Very good tonight, and would have had a penalty if Moss wasn't blind.
As did Silva, though injuries contributed there.
Only reason he should be here next season is to be the backup #10 to a new signing.
Isco please.
Isco please.
Moving just as fast anyway
Bizarre comment considering that difference between Mata and Fellaini (0.6) is similar to the difference between Mata and Smalling/Rashford (0.7) who have both been hailed as excellent this season. Which would mean 0.6 is the difference between awful and decent; and decent and very good (with all ratings being between 5.1 and 6.9, a difference of 0.6 is huge)
In terms of attacking players with 20+ appearances he's second only to Martial (albeit with poor competition like Fellaini, Rooney, Lingard & Depay).
If there are two players that have been hindered more than most under LVG and deserve a chance under a new manager it's our two (outfield) Spaniards.
Man Utd 2:1 Crystal Palace
Added some fouling and bookings to his game this season 
His hugs don't extend to the oppositionAdded some fouling and bookings to his game this season
Barely touched Souré. Clattenburg carded him because he had some making up to do this game.
Cant wait till Mourinho is here, one of the most pointless attacking players I've seen.
What has he actually done? Nothing noteworthy, as usual. He's an attacking midfielder who's biggest impact is mostly ball retention, wonder why we hardly ever score. Martial, Rashford were better attackingly and Rooney has played more incisive passes besides that.
Easily our second best player in the first half.
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