Sylar
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Least of our problems today. Did well for the assist and was covering as last man at times. We should have moved him to #10 position as soon as it went 2-2.
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He had his head up to track Martials run whilst receiving the ball, beating the defender and releasing the pass.That's why Mata rightly plays all the time. For all his flaws he's one of the only players we have with that sort of composure and class.
Scores the winning goal on the Saturday, sets up the equalizing goal on the Tuesday. I wish we had more of these luxury players in our team.He is a luxury player to carry in such high intensity games.
Goes hiding mostly. Didn't at the time but clearly now see the reason Mourinho dispensed with him.
Here's the squadWho has taken his place?
Shit yeah. Didn't notice that. Who's Soriano too? Did he used to play for Sampdoria (dunno why I know that)?More surprised by Costa and Torres not getting a look in.
he isn't that good. Its only because he plays for us that he gets an inflated status on this site.Spain has never really favoured him, have they?
Shit yeah. Didn't notice that. Who's Soriano too? Did he used to play for Sampdoria (dunno why I know that)?
From Wiki. Never heard of him myselfJonathan Soriano Casas (born 24 September 1985) is a Spanish professional footballer who plays for Austrian club FC Red Bull Salzburg as a striker.
He spent his early career with Espanyol and Barcelona, mostly with the respective reserve teams. In January 2012 he moved to Red Bull Salzburg, where he won three league and cup doubles, also finishing as the Austrian Football Bundesliga's top scorer twice; he totalled over 150 goals for the team.
Soriano gained 25 caps for Spain at youth level, scoring 27 times. He also played for Catalonia.
Doesn't look great up front. Surely Costa would have enhanced this squad?Here's the squad
Squad
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Porto), David De Gea (Manchester United), Sergio Rico (Sevilla)
Defenders: Jordi Alba, Gerard Pique, Marc Bartra (all Barcelona), Sergio Ramos, Dani Carvajal (Real Madrid), Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid)
Midfielders: Sergio Busquets, Andres Iniesta (both Barcelona), David Silva (Manchester City), Mikel San Jose (Athletic Bilbao), Koke, Saul Niguez (both Atletico Madrid), Cesc Fabregas (Chelsea), Thiago Alcantara (Bayern Munich), Isco (Real Madrid), Bruno Soriano (Villarreal)
Forwards: Pedro Rodriguez (Chelsea), Alvaro Morata (Juventus), Aritz Aduriz (Athletic Bilbao), Nolito (Celta Vigo), Lucas Vazquez (Real Madrid)
That's a different player, ain't it? The one in the squad is a midfielder who plays for Villareal.From Wiki. Never heard of him myself
I'm just waiting for Stobzilla to come along and make a shit copying and pasting joke/reference now.
Mata's problem is he's a luxury player that can't play CM, isn't really a winger but isn't as good as various other No.10s for Spain. He's bloody good, still, but like a lot of others has lost out to competition in a strong era for Spain.he isn't that good. Its only because he plays for us that he gets an inflated status on this site.
Mata is not much better than Fellaini vis a vis the positions they play in: both of them are top 7 club material AND NOT Champions material, which is why we are where we are.
Would be one of the first players Id sell if I was Mourinho.
I still haven't heard of him haThat's a different player, ain't it? The one in the squad is a midfielder who plays for Villareal.
Edit: ohhhh, it's Bruno. Not sure why they've got him down as Soriano like
Do you think he can be our 1st choice no 10 or luxury player in a Mourinho United? If so, where does he fit in?Mata's problem is he's a luxury player that can't play CM, isn't really a winger but isn't as good as various other No.10s for Spain. He's bloody good, still, but like a lot of others has lost out to competition in a strong era for Spain.
If you have Hazard and De Bryune firing balls into him, he's bound to score at some stage tbfNot better than Fellaini? Honest to god. I mean seriously. Ffs.
He may be more talented but performances relative to position this season, I don't think so. I think Mata has been as disappointing wide right as Fellaini has been in central midfield.Not better than Fellaini? Honest to god. I mean seriously. Ffs.
I think its different though, the position Mata plays means a play will almost always go missing if you can't get him the service. I don't think we've had a single player thats looked great playing number 10 under Van Gaal and thats a large part down to the fact we suck at getting them the ball quickly in positions where they can hurt teams. The same defence can't really be offered for Fellaini.He may be more talented but performances relative to position this season, I don't think so. I think Mata has been as disappointing wide right as Fellaini has been in central midfield.
Lets not forget how many games Mata has gone totally missing, how many times his stray passes led to a break down of our few attacking moves,
As did Silva, though injuries contributed there.I don't know if he should have been called or not, but I see that the likes of Fabregas, Isco and Pedro were called and they had worse seasons than Mata.
Moving just as fast anyway
Bizarre comment considering that difference between Mata and Fellaini (0.6) is similar to the difference between Mata and Smalling/Rashford (0.7) who have both been hailed as excellent this season. Which would mean 0.6 is the difference between awful and decent; and decent and very good (with all ratings being between 5.1 and 6.9, a difference of 0.6 is huge)He may be more talented but performances relative to position this season, I don't think so. I think Mata has been as disappointing wide right as Fellaini has been in central midfield.
Even the redcafe average rating for the entire season (Mata 5.7 vs Fellaini 5.1) shows this could be true, the scores are quite close and I think Fellaini is always under scored because of a negative bias and Mata over scored because of positive bias.
Lets not forget how many games Mata has gone totally missing, how many times his stray passes led to a break down of our few attacking moves, and how few assists he has contributed.
His hugs don't extend to the oppositionAdded some fouling and bookings to his game this season![]()
Cant wait till Mourinho is here, one of the most pointless attacking players I've seen.
What has he actually done? Nothing noteworthy, as usual. He's an attacking midfielder who's biggest impact is mostly ball retention, wonder why we hardly ever score. Martial, Rashford were better attackingly and Rooney has played more incisive passes besides that.
Easily our second best player in the first half.