Larseno
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This is great. Carrick will suit Mourinho good. Wonder how big a role he will play in this team. Anyways, he will be a good player to have in the dressing room. I really believe he could still do a job.
Its a mystery why we have kept carrick, who's legs have clearly gone, jose talks about Mata's mobility lacking, carrick is 10 times worse. Unless jose may have problems finding the right midfielder, I feel we will need a couple of midfielders, it would be a huge baffling decision if we keep carrick and sell someone like herrera, who's got better mobility and energy than any of our CM players. I do hope herrera and morgan are big part if jose's plans of he tends to play a 433/4231Yeah probably, that shouldn´t happen again. I dont think Carrick can play 45 games if we want to improve as a team and be a title contender.
I´m not sure I remember exactly, but Carrick was behind Schneiderlin/Schweini until somewhere around the Arsenal-debacle last fall right?
Not really. Carrick's lack of mobility doesn't affect his game much. When it comes to off the ball work, his positional sense and reading of the game makes up for it.Its a mystery why we have kept carrick, who's legs have clearly gone, jose talks about Mata's mobility lacking, carrick is 10 times worse.
I'd imagine Mourinho rates Carrick as an experienced, stabilizing force in midfield who is integrated into the club and can contribute quality performances when called on. He will almost certainly be a rotating squad player who comes on off the bench later in games contribute 20-30 minutes here and there.Its a mystery why we have kept carrick, who's legs have clearly gone, jose talks about Mata's mobility lacking, carrick is 10 times worse. Unless jose may have problems finding the right midfielder, I feel we will need a couple of midfielders, it would be a huge baffling decision if we keep carrick and sell someone like herrera, who's got better mobility and energy than any of our CM players. I do hope herrera and morgan are big part if jose's plans of he tends to play a 433/4231
Not really. Carrick's lack of mobility doesn't affect his game much. When it comes to off the ball work, his positional sense and reading of the game makes up for it.
Whereas Mata's lack of mobility and strength renders him completely useless out on the wing, and also means his pressing/defensive work is way sub par to someone much quicker and stronger, like Rooney.
I think Mata could be used has a number 10 to play off the striker, if we have 2 rampaging wingers with a good anchor man with a driving midfielder, mata can easily work. I don't think shipping off mata solves our problems, if Jose loves the 4231 system, mata actually would work wonders in his favorI'd imagine Mourinho rates Carrick as an experienced, stabilizing force in midfield who is integrated into the club and can contribute quality performances when called on. He will almost certainly be a rotating squad player who comes on off the bench later in games contribute 20-30 minutes here and there.
I agree we need better than what we've got but all of those are more of a liability than picking Carrick from our current options in my opinion.Well seeing as Blind has some stiff competition at the back now I would use any of Blind, Fosu-Mensah and Rooney (only because I know he won't be dropped). Carrick, Schnieders (if we must keep him also) and Bastian would be the last 20-min guys if required...till we get decent replacements. We just need a more skillful and pacy midfield without the liability factor.
Yep.I agree we need better than what we've got but all of those are more of a liability than picking Carrick from our current options in my opinion.
He's still a useful asset for the Europa league games and home games where we'll dominate possession at least.
Schweinsteiger is the one we should get rid of. Waste of space.
There isn't literally a single argument for keeping Carrick that can't be made at least, if not more, strongly for Schweinsteiger too.I agree we need better than what we've got but all of those are more of a liability than picking Carrick from our current options in my opinion.
He's still a useful asset for the Europa league games and home games where we'll dominate possession at least.
Schweinsteiger is the one we should get rid of. Waste of space.
Fair enough, but to say that Carrick is the best midfielder we have is an exaggeration of some magnitude and one that fills me with despair. We have fallen so behind and been poor the last three years because we are just accepting mediocrity now and hanging on to vastly over-rated players that really aren't as good as people think or want to believe they are. Our squad is peppered with them and I'm hoping Jose has the balls to start clearing them out.I agree we need better than what we've got but all of those are more of a liability than picking Carrick from our current options in my opinion.
He's still a useful asset for the Europa league games and home games where we'll dominate possession at least.
Schweinsteiger is the one we should get rid of. Waste of space.
Was he though? Was he really?Hell even Fellaini who everyone hates was better than BFS, Margan and Herrera!
To be honest since 2008 we have left the squad regress, is our current squad not has good as its made out? we have to see what it can do under a good manager. Many like to hype the past teams, but those teams were not managed under joke managers like Moyes and VG, lets see if Jose can work his magic and build a squad capable of not only challenging, but win trophys. There is a team waiting to come through, it just needs a manager that knows what he is bloody doingFair enough, but to say that Carrick is the best midfielder we have is an exaggeration of some magnitude and one that fills me with despair. We have fallen so behind and been poor the last three years because we are just accepting mediocrity now and hanging on to vastly over-rated players that really aren't as good as people think or want to believe they are. Our squad is peppered with them and I'm hoping Jose has the balls to start clearing them out.
LVG tried it but fecked up big time by replacing quality with mediocrity, bar Martial. Hopefully Jose will get it right but hanging on to the likes of Carrick is not the way forward. Thankfully it's just one year.
I agree. There's only 1 Carrick, and his position in the squad aswell his experience, will be great to have yet another season under a new manager.This is great. Carrick will suit Mourinho good. Wonder how big a role he will play in this team. Anyways, he will be a good player to have in the dressing room. I really believe he could still do a job.
How is it a massive exaggeration when he started the FA cup final and it wasn't even a debate that he should? At the same time you're saying our squad is full of players who need clearing out.Fair enough, but to say that Carrick is the best midfielder we have is an exaggeration of some magnitude and one that fills me with despair. We have fallen so behind and been poor the last three years because we are just accepting mediocrity now and hanging on to vastly over-rated players that really aren't as good as people think or want to believe they are. Our squad is peppered with them and I'm hoping Jose has the balls to start clearing them out.
LVG tried it but fecked up big time by replacing quality with mediocrity, bar Martial. Hopefully Jose will get it right but hanging on to the likes of Carrick is not the way forward. Thankfully it's just one year.
Rooney was better than Carrick last season in midfield.How is it a massive exaggeration when he started the FA cup final and it wasn't even a debate that he should? At the same time you're saying our squad is full of players who need clearing out.
Best of a bad/average bunch I'll agree but it's by no means a stretch to say he's the best we currently have.
There's a lot of player turnover at present as well. You need some continuity between past success and the present squad.I'm glad there are sane heads in the club. If not the starting eleven, he is still the core of this squad. We need his experience in and out of the dressing room at least until we have more regular midfielders.
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Exactly ...that's kind of true United legends(like Sparky , big Bruce )served us for a decade , no grumble , didn't think oneself bigger than the club ...respect to Carrick!This. 100%