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Yup. They are completely broken for UK-wide politics.Polls get it so horribly wrong yet again
Yup. They are completely broken for UK-wide politics.Polls get it so horribly wrong yet again
Lies and methods to achieve something debatably worthwhile is one thing. Overseeing and triggering the potential break up of a nation is quite the other.Ease up there mate; at least he wasn't complicit in falsifying WMD evidence leading to an illegal war for oil and a decade long regional instability and bloodbath.
Fecking horror. He sounds very polished these days but the moment he has real power his true colors will come out. Not looking forward to the state of socitey over the next 3-4 years.He is now a VERY powerful voice on all future UK politics. What have the North done????!!!!!!
So you're the one to blame for thisI wanted Labour to win last year, I wanted to remain in the EU this year
The daft thing is that non-EU migration is already over 100,000 comfortably.I belive the pledge too hold immigration under 100000, a number plucked from the air, has led to this. They've often shot themselves in the foot with their political budgets, this time they chopped their own legs off
Labour is buried until someone revolutionary comes along who actually changes the mindset of people.If Scotland become independent it'll be increased but expect Conservative to still be the dominant party for the foreseeable. Strong Labour areas in the north have voted Leave so looks like UKIP will gain Labour voters as well as some Conservative and other parties.
705k Leave lead. Leave 52% (11.5M) Remain 48% (10.8M). 276/382 declared.
This is pretty much exactly what David Cameron thought. His arrogance in believing people would never go against him has been costly.Some of these wins for the leave campaign are crushing, it's nearly 2-1 I some of the councils.
Where as virtually all the remain wins are tight as feck.
I thought this whole thing might just be some grand political exercise to appease a segment of the political and voting population, and give some weight to further negotiations with Europe.
Looks like it's backfired a bit
He needs to go the way of Ramsey Bolton.David Cameron will go down as the man who took Britain out of Europe and Broke up the Union. What a legend.
I think you sort of answered your own question there; if it politically expedient to ease off, that's what they'll do. And remember that even some Tories stood firm against Osborne's tax credit reforms.Boris Johnson will do whatever serves his own interests best. I really don't understand this idea that the Tories are going to act nobly and reverse the damages done by Cameron and co.
So much is going to happen. It's just impossible to know.Could the EU die now? Will we see a Spexit?
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It's going to be hard to do if our economy is kind of fecked. And some of those Tories included Ian Duncan Smith with his bizarre crocodile tears, highlighting the self-serving, selfish nature of some of these Tories.I think you sort of answered your own question there; if it politically expedient to ease off, that's what they'll do. And remember that even some Tories stood firm against Osborne's tax credit reforms.
I assume you share my fears about the complete lack of opposition - given this result is likely to destroy Labour?I think you sort of answered your own question there; if it politically expedient to ease off, that's what they'll do. And remember that even some Tories stood firm against Osborne's tax credit reforms.
Yeah...I'm split. On one hand, the references are very apt and mostly fit, but then obviously they're spoilers and that.Everyone please stop it with the Game of Thrones mentions. Third time a GoT reference has been made in this thread.
Off to bed for real now.
shocking at how out of touch politico's and hangers on have been about the mood of the nation.Some of these wins for the leave campaign are crushing, it's nearly 2-1 I some of the councils.
Where as virtually all the remain wins are tight as feck.
I thought this whole thing might just be some grand political exercise to appease a segment of the political and voting population, and give some weight to further negotiations with Europe.
Looks like it's backfired a bit
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Chicago. Lived in LA for a few years and Spain before that. Gonna have to move again if Trump gets in.Where you based now?
We don't have control over EU immigration though and that's simply too big an issue. If you read my post, all 5 EU colleagues came over here without a job first. Two of the three non-EU came over as students and are on visas, one was married to a Brit.We already have control of non-EU immigration, yet it is still incredibly high. Why is it not being controlled, then? And why the feck will Brexit change that?
Just stick to spolier from season 1-5Yeah...I'm split. On one hand, the references are very apt and mostly fit, but then obviously they're spoilers and that.
Im totally confused at how he won last election with such a huge majority and mandateThis is pretty much exactly what David Cameron thought. His arrogance in believing people would never go against him has been costly.
No. That's a stretch, as much as this hurts right now.Am I right in thinking it's a bit rich of the UK people to complain about the rise of the Trump in the US of A?
We get less EU then non EU, and all your colleagues are working and paying taxes so where is the problem?We don't have control over EU immigration though and that's simply too big an issue. If you read my post, all 5 EU colleagues came over here without a job first. Two of the three non-EU came over as students and are on visas, one was married to a Brit.
This is their chance to compete. Hopefully they've outdone us and Clinton will win in November. If not, Idiocracy is going worldwide.Am I right in thinking it's a bit rich of the UK people to complain about the rise of the Trump in the US of A?
But what suggestion is there that leaving the EU will actually influence immigration when it has not led to a decrease in non-EU immigration?We don't have control over EU immigration though and that's simply too big an issue. If you read my post, all 5 EU colleagues came over here without a job first. Two of the three non-EU came over as students and are on visas, one was married to a Brit.
After I graduated Uni, I moved to Spain and got a job teaching English. Was tough going initially but I ended up managing a hotel at night. After learning Spanish, I moved to LA for a change of scene. I over stayed my visa and married a bartender I met in Vegas. Got my green card and 13 years later I'm still here.How did you leave, im absolutely finished being here after im done with uni.
His only competition was from an awkward nerd and the Scots have replaced Labour with the SNPIm totally confused at how he won last election with such a huge majority and mandate
Literally all regions here support being in the EU.All Scottish regions voted remain, thanks again England.