Our club (or any decent club really) work on a rigid wage structure. So if Bastian takes 200k then we would struggle to add more CMs because much of the budget had been eaten away by him. It happened during the value strategy when SAF refused to add more CM to a CM which had Giggs, Scholes, Cleverley, Ando and Fletcher in it and its happening now. No reserve deserve a 200k a week salary.
Rummenigge: Some players may think about it in future, to join a club like this.
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
He's here because you clearly didn't want him, hypocrite
I think he's easily the best central midfielder at the club (until pogba arrives). We shouldn't be getting rid.
He's here because shit managers need allies in the team who share their 'philosophy'. Moyes brought Fellaini, LVG brought Bastian
I want to say it's horribly harsh to bin BFS to the reserves, but then I used to do the same to all my transfer listed players in FM too... so, what can I say?
I don't think his side has leaked too much, have they? Rummenigge is just a pest regardless and his brother has taken a bit of a paddy, I suppose.
The general feeling I'm getting is that Schweinsteiger just wants to stay and fight for his place.
You seem to be selectively believing whatever reports you like to try justify this treatment of Bastian.
Apart from the whole basis for this discussion, no. Not much at all!
Not Woody since he's new and not a football man. Wouldn't surprise me if someone like SAF had a little dig if asked directly about it, out of loyalty to the player.
What a bizarrely stupid thing to say.
Isn't it also reported that Mourinho told him on his first day back that he wasn't part of his first team squad? Does that sound like a decision based on his apparent fitness as you're speculating about?
Yeah, maybe people would think twice before trying to pick up a golden paycheck here.
Not really sure how BS has the moral high ground here because he wants to play now, apparently. Last season he was hardly in the country.
Not really sure how BS has the moral high ground here because he wants to play now, apparently. Last season he was hardly in the country.
How do you know Schweinsteiger has been feeding things to the press? You were overwhelmed at the thought of Rooney doing it yesterday.
Him training with the reserves and having to clear his locker isn't something that stays under wraps.
You seem very quick to want to believe Schweinsteiger is some sort of bad egg. I'd understand if it was a player with history of this sort of thing but it doesn't fit with the rest of his career.
Why do I find it so hard to believe that Bayern doesn't do the same? Not having a dig at Bayern or their fans, but I'm pretty sure this is a common occurrence at any top club in Europe's best 4/5 leagues.
It's ridiculous. Utd are almost always in the wrong from a fan perspectiv though.
I think you've missed the point of this whole discussion. If he told him so, there'd be no issue, it's the fact he showed him how much he's not wanted by isolating him from the first team squad trying to force him into testing up the contract we offered him.
There's much to admire about Bayern, as there is about German football in general but they are drifting down a holier-than-thou route of late, much like Barcelona did, which is really starting to stick in my craw.
Mourinho could drown a bag of puppies and some on here would try justify it because he didn't want them
I dont get it? The previous manager signed him up, and sadly he was injured and out of shape for most of the season. A new manager arrives and have decided which players he preferres to spend the coaching staffs resources on. The player is free to stay, but has been told that he will not be a part of the first team squad. If the player decides to stay on, that is fine but he will be training with the U23s.
I dont see any reason to have any sort of 'moral outrage' over this, or for any senior executive of any other club to spout shit about the situation. I really like BFS, but this is clearly up to him to move on or train with the reserves.
I dont see any reason to have any sort of 'moral outrage' over this, or for any senior executive of any other club to spout shit about the situation. I really like BFS, but this is clearly up to him to move on or train with the reserves.
I'm enjoying how many jimmies this whole situation is rustling.
I just find it massively ironic to see you repeatedly bitching about Rooney talking to the press, whilst wilfully oblivious to the fact that this whole drama is obviously based on Schweinsteiger (or someone on his team) doing the exact same thing.
I couldn't give a toss about any of these leaks, nor am I basing my opinion on Schweinsteiger on them. My opinion is based on his half-arsed approach to last season - when he was clearly overweight and unfit - and the fact the manager who knows far more than any of us has decided he's no longer any use to the club. That's good enough for me. Considering the disdain you seem to hold whatever inside information we know about what's going on, perhaps you need to focus on these facts and ignore the rest?
Rummenigge is a gobshite, always flapping his gums about other clubs. Schweinsteiger is a has-been that LvG talked our board into buying, Jose doesn't want him and he doesn't want to leave, what's the manager supposed to do?
What the actual feck? He was struggling with injuries last season. You're acting like he was constantly off on a bender being caught smoking like a German Jack Wilshire. LVG allowed him to go abroad when injured, so he did. SAF allowed the same. Rooney would go to Dubai when he was nursing his knee injury FFS. Massive "disrespect" shown there, isn't it.
Do you know that its quite normal for players with prolonged injuries to go abroad?
Its utterly disrespectful and not called for. Normally done for punishment purposes, literally the equivalent of telling a student at school to sit and face the wall.
Hoeneß and Rummenigge once stated they would never employ Mou because of his antics not gelling with the club's philosophy
Journos asked him what he thinks about the matter, and since Bastian is a club legend for us, he did. Mind you, he was referring on how the matter was facilitated, not the decision per se.
It's not surprising to see the overall reactions here, but it's interesting how the winds have changed in regard to Mourinhos antics, since he's become *your* bad guy. I don't remember him being viewed so favorably during the Eva Cameneiro incident.
Btw, Heynckes' contract was just not extended, and the decision to make Pep his successor was made half a year before we won the treble.
I'd like to see Bastian stay on, but the manager has made his choice. I don't like how this is pitched against the club either, this is the decision of our manager not a club policy. Maybe he should say "players should think twice about playing for Mourinho"
Not that I disagree with the actions Jose has taken. Managers have to be ruthless, this is a game for winners not sappy sentimentality. Everyone is soft as shit these days.
Not that I disagree with the actions Jose has taken. Managers have to be ruthless, this is a game for winners not sappy sentimentality. Everyone is soft as shit these days.
Shocking isn't it. Imagine a new manager coming in and wanting to get rid of players that he doesn't want. It's a completely crazy concept, I know.Mourinho could drown a bag of puppies and some on here would try justify it because he didn't want them
His Mourinho hate means he is best ignored.
Thats Hoeness.
Different guy. This one is just a prick(fantastic player though)
A lot of fans have had to adopt the attitude of "he's out Cnut". Unfortunately it means that a lot of us are having to be hypocrites and accept what we previously criticised. It seems silly to criticise Bayern for being "holier than thou" for criticising us, we've chosen this path.
Seriously?Mourinho could drown a bag of puppies and some on here would try justify it because he didn't want them
You'll hear from people like me that he's acted like a cnut during Carneiro case, doubt many people have changed their minds on that, but that was at Chelsea and it's not really our problem. There, he wasn't right, here, with Schweinsteiger's case if there is any, he's right.
Yeah, but what if Jupp wanted to stay? How can you treat an absolute legend like that, a man who's won you the treble? At those times there were rumours in the press that he wanted to stay and give it another go and you didn't give him a chance.
As shown above, it's easy to overblow shit out of proportions if you want to add a specific narrative to it.
Van Gaal made all of his players train with and even play for the Development squad when returning to fitness. Pep won't even let his players train with the squad if he deems them not fit enough. We're talking about a player who didn't seem to be showing a lot of commitment to the club himself last season. The equivalent of telling a student to face the wall? Get real.
What should the club be doing if they would prefer him to leave? Allow him to continue training/playing with the first team and collecting a large salary even though the prospect of him playing is nil? Creating an expectation amongst the club's fans that he is in the manager's first team plans even though he isn't?
Almost everyone knows that Mourinho was completely out of order in the incident with Eva Carneiro.
You Monster!
That's not obvious in the slightest. Schweinsteiger has been pictured training with the reserves. We've also read he's been told to clear out his locker. That's it. There's no evidence elsewhere, unless I've missed it, to suggest he's briefing stories left, right and centre. Anybody with a pair of eyes could tell you he's been left out in the cold.
I have no problem with Mourinho finding no use for Schweinsteiger. That's his prerogative and I can understand why he may not want a crock (on huge wages) on his books.
Memo to Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, 1 keep your nose out of a player that is not his, 2 if a player is not injury prone, in their prime, and is one of the top players in the world they have nothing to worry about. Players need to earn their wage, not past it not earning a fortune, and moaning why some players are moved on when they're not earning that wage since the club expects performances from that player. If I worked at a big company and I was always taking time off instead of earning that wage, they aint going to keep me
You're gas. I mean you're right, technically, providing those pair of eyes are used to read stories in the press...This isn't about the decision of no longer planning with a player. This is about the circumstances around it. You are evading the actual issue. Rummenigge didn't refer to the decision, he referred to the classless way it's being carried out.
You're confusing. Bastian Schweinsteiger doesn't personally need to tell the newspapers he's not wanted here. He's been training with the kids and hasn't been selected in a match day squad. What on earth is there for him to tell everybody?
BILD ran a piece saying that he wanted to stay and fight for his place, but that's about it. He's hardly flinging shite around, is he?